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I think in general, I'm much more positive that I used to be
Of course, there was the Sadie issue…and I reverted for an instant

But i'm very pleased in general with the direction that the team is going.
And I still believe that they that there is a good chance that they will be truly invincible come tourney time.

And yes, all this talk of last year's team being invincible is so much hogwash.
They had plenty of nights in which they didn't play well at all…won, but looked pretty strained.
And that includes Stef and Bria.
I remember the game in Springfield as hardly being a moment of "artistic basketball.'
A fairly easy win, but a mess.
 
You've called opposing opinions "silliness" a couple of times. Would you be OK if the situation were reversed, if the people who think differently from you called your posts silly?
Wolves do not concern themselves with the opinions of sheep. :cool:

Sure, I don't care if people call my opinions silly. I know what's silly and not silly. I am not thin-skinned, it don't bother me none. And if it does that's my problem.

It's unkind, at the least, and mean-spirited at the other end of the spectrum. Anyone that defends their "right" to be mean-spirited towards others for thinking differently is fooling themselves for thinking their actions are righteous.
Really Nan? Really? Wow.

As my friend cto, the Syracusefan.com admin, says "We can disagree without being disagreeable".
Where's the fun in that? ;)
 
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For Rady: I am a "positive poster" who doesn't post anymore for reasons having nothing to do with the character of discussion. Altho' I know what you mean about "only the bad is pointed out." That is a teaching tool some parents use to urge their children to achieve to a higher level.

Having access to SNY thru having gotten a sports package in 2014 that shows the Idirarod (for REAL Huskies), lately I have watched some UCONN games - since the "lady" Huskies are also on the 4-legged Huskies' station grouping.

My impression FWIW is that this UCONN team is really, really talented and super deep. To the point that I think they are going to be amazing by NCAA tournament time!!!

I wondered why I hadn't seen you in such a while. And, as a teacher, truly I understand that things need to be pointed out where improvement is necessary but I also know that a barrage of negativity never brings good results. So if you're going to present one aspect, why not balance it with some of the other?

of course you have to be careful how you word that as well so as not to be misunderstood.
 
You don't think it's unkind to call people names? Really? :(
Who have I called names?

And there are other ways to be mean-spirited than by calling people names and still thinking their actions are righteous. Right Nan? ;)
 
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OR, the one game (Stanford) doesn't point to there being "serious issues" compared to all the rest of the games. In fact it seems to point more to a one off blip of a game that really doesn't give a good representation of this team.

If your frustrated with all the nervousness etc - this would be a perfect example for you to start a thread pointing out how awesome they've been since the one game and then "debunk" the "serious" issues sentiment that some may have.

Like you- I don't see "serious issues."

I don't think the team is perfect - but I don't see "serious concerns." We're a juggernaut. But a juggernaut of young players that can be susceptible from time-to-time. If you think posters are wrong and want more positive start some threads epalining why you're right. Just be prepared to take an alternate view from time-to-time.
 
Defensively Morgan is no Stef, and won't be, she doesn't have the size to block shots, or alter shots that way. Morgan is going to be great in her own way, but Stef could get some rebounds just with the space she occupied.
 
Buzzy, you appear to be watching a completely different than I am. As I said earlier the Stanford game was about the first long road trip to the west coast while adding four inexperienced players to the group and a mix that was still trying to find its baseline. It is no big thing and the team has looked nothing like that since the line up changes and with more time to gel.
I am just being the devils advocate here. I haven't seen too much going on here that should raise the ire of people about where they see the Huskies at this point or maybe even further down the line. I think they (the Huskies) are playing quite well and I'm pleased about the development of Kia Nurse and the return to form for Morgan Tuck after her surgery. Actually, I was one who felt and wrote prior to the start of the regular season that I felt comfortable that Kia Nurse would show herself to be major asset to the team (and early) and that I had a level of confidence that Morgan would actually be able to contribute at a high level, if not immediately, at least before the post season. I'll be honest and say that I was stunned about the Stanford game as were many, if not most of the regular Boneyarders but I felt that Geno would be able to right the defensive issues. I do think that Notre Dame game and DePaul game were very good performances but I think that I'll reserve judgement as to whether there is no longer any obstructions to a tenth title.
 
I think in general, I'm much more positive that I used to be
Of course, there was the Sadie issue…and I reverted for an instant

But i'm very pleased in general with the direction that the team is going.
And I still believe that they that there is a good chance that they will be truly invincible come tourney time.

And yes, all this talk of last year's team being invincible is so much hogwash.
They had plenty of nights in which they didn't play well at all…won, but looked pretty strained.
And that includes Stef and Bria.
I remember the game in Springfield as hardly being a moment of "artistic basketball.'
A fairly easy win, but a mess.
How many people here will say that they didn't have a nervous moment or two (or three) with their struggles in the NCAA tournament in Nebraska. Without a stellar performance by KML, we would have been in a massive hole at halftime and yet, we managed to get a foothold and pull away at the end. We are not quite as solid defensively on the interior as we were last year because we lost half of the shot blocking duo that really made life miserable for anyone trying to get anything inside. As has been mentioned, Morgan is good in so many different ways but she doesn't have as much impact on the interior defensively as did Stef. Overall, we may be a better team by tournament time than was last years team but only time will tell.
 
If your frustrated with all the nervousness etc -
Not really. I'm one of the most negative people I know. But I also realize sometimes you just gotta step back, take a look at the big picture and realize;

Damn, we're good. Really good. And we've been damn good for quite a while. And it looks like we are gonna be damn good for quite a while in the future. And we should sit back, relax and enjoy the ride. Programs like this don't happen very often.
 
I am just being the devils advocate here. I haven't seen too much going on here that should raise the ire of people about where they see the Huskies at this point or maybe even further down the line. I think they (the Huskies) are playing quite well and I'm pleased about the development of Kia Nurse and the return to form for Morgan Tuck after her surgery. Actually, I was one who felt and wrote prior to the start of the regular season that I felt comfortable that Kia Nurse would show herself to be major asset to the team (and early) and that I had a level of confidence that Morgan would actually be able to contribute at a high level, if not immediately, at least before the post season. I'll be honest and say that I was stunned about the Stanford game as were many, if not most of the regular Boneyarders but I felt that Geno would be able to right the defensive issues. I do think that Notre Dame game and DePaul game were very good performances but I think that I'll reserve judgement as to whether there is no longer any obstructions to a tenth title.

Just a hint: Telling us that "you were the one that" is only slightly less annoying than quoting yourself in prior posts. And, as far as Kia Nurse prognostications go, the prediction about her great future at UConn has become like a few million of a prior generation boasting to having been there when The Babe pointed to the left field cheap seats!
 
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Much was written pre-season about Stanford having a whole new offense while many overlooked the fact that we were also forced to rebuild the offense after the graduation of two All-Americans, one of which ran the offense for the past few years. Now that the starting five have been determined, the team is coming together nicely as everyone settles into their roles and so far look pretty comfortable. What UConn is going to run or who is subbed in and when may be predictable, but good luck stopping it.
 
Just a hint: Telling us that "you were the one that" is only slightly less annoying than quoting yourself in prior posts. And, as far as Kia Nurse prognostications go, the prediction about her great future at UConn has become like a few million of a prior generation boasting to having been there when The Babe pointed to the left field cheap seats!
If you read my post I didn't say that "I was THE one who said", I wrote that "I was one" (of many) who said so you are kinda barking up the wrong tree with my predictions. The difference of that one little THE changes everything, doesn't it!!!!!!!! I'm not overly full of myself! So don't be annoyed on my account, okay? I was just trying to say that I was optimistic about the Huskies heading into the season, feeling very confident of how Morgan would be able to finally play to her full potential and feeling that the incoming girls, particularly Kia Nurse would be exceptional additions until that pretty bad Stanford performance. I live out of state and have had some issues with seeing all of the Huskie games but seeing that game did little to instill any confidence in me.
 
If you read my post I didn't say that "I was THE one who said", I wrote that "I was one" (of many) who said so you are kinda barking up the wrong tree with my predictions. The difference of that one little THE changes everything, doesn't it!!!!!!!! I'm not overly full of myself! So don't be annoyed on my account, okay? I was just trying to say that I was optimistic about the Huskies heading into the season, feeling very confident of how Morgan would be able to finally play to her full potential and feeling that the incoming girls, particularly Kia Nurse would be exceptional additions until that pretty bad Stanford performance. I live out of state and have had some issues with seeing all of the Huskie games but seeing that game did little to instill any confidence in me.

Your content is fine. Nonetheless, reminding people that you were right before detracts from your message. Meant as a helpful hint, nothing more.
 
Your content is fine. Nonetheless, reminding people that you were right before detracts from your message. Meant as a helpful hint, nothing more.
Thanks for that but my only reason for mentioning it wasn't to pat myself on the back but remind some people who may have forgotten that generally I'm optimistic about the Huskies and NOT A DOWNER but that I was taken aback by the Stanford performance and was now "concerned" about something I don't ever remember being concerned about before with the lady Huskies and that was their ability to play fundamentally strong defense. It appeared that they've corrected it but then again, those games were against teams with different styles. I'm in a good place right now but I'll continue to monitor their defensive performances for my own mental health.
 
One of the reasons our defense has been a little suspect is the lack of Stef. She, along with Stewie, allowed our guards to play aggressive. If an opponent got by a guard Stef and Stewie were there to clean up. And when we went big and added Kiah into the mix, nobody got a layup or an essay shot in the paint.

So this year our guards have to be on top of their opponent. But they really can't cheat like last year. If you notice, when Kiah comes into the game, drives into the lane diminish quickly. They know Kiah's rep as a shot blocker and enforcer in the paint. Her play is proving her rep is well deserved.

Morgan is not the post presence of Stef. She is a multi-dimensional player who makes the offense more diversified and dangerous.
 
I dated a piccolo/flute player. A couple sax players. A couple french horn players. A baritone player. A couple flag/rifle girls. Don't think I ever dated a clarinet player though, ugh.

This one time at band camp....:eek:

MEYER: don't leave us hanging like that, Man. ( I'm guessing that one of the rifle girls took a few pot shots at you during band camp? )
I'm also guessing that "dated" in your parlance means something equivalent to "took a furtive glance from behind a tree......perhaps a date palm."
Nasty attitude you have about clarinet players.....;)
 
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Disagreements are fine. However, it's not fine to call people with different opinions names or to disparage them in any way. I noted in the "fluff" thread that people felt the need to take a poke at the folks who want to discuss both positive and negative aspects of the team. Why do that? Why take gratuitous shots at people just because they have different opinions? It's unkind, at the least, and mean-spirited at the other end of the spectrum. Anyone that defends their "right" to be mean-spirited towards others for thinking differently is fooling themselves for thinking their actions are righteous."

It took me a few posts (OK, more than a few) to get what Nan has consistently been saying. I was used to sports boards that were and are, for lack of a better term, "free fire zones." Part of that routine involved a form of verbal combat whose SECONDARY purpose was to inform. The primary purpose was to outwit everyone else. It was an ongoing battle.

Just as UConn WBB is special (and in many ways unique), it is fitting that we raise the bar here on the BY. Expecting civility isn't a limit on freedom of expession.
 
If I were an anthropologist, sociologist, or some other kinda' ologist, I suspect I would find this thread rich and fascinating.

Permit an amateur observer of the human condition to pontificate a bit, please.

Some BY'ers really do look at the glass as half-empty. They see what's missing, they see what is not done well, they see mistakes strongly and clearly. They can't let that go, and they feel validated and empowered by noting these errors and flaws. If I were to do a "+/-" breakdown of posts, some folks would certainly have more "-" than "+".
Conversely, some folks see the glass as half-full. They see what's there, what is done well, and see success strongly and clearly. They don't understand those who dwell on the flaws, and feel validated and empowered by noting and celebrating the good stuff.
And, there is a contingent of pretty balanced folks, who see both flaws and strengths. Those folks often bring another factor to the debate, which is patience, a "longer-term" view, understanding that November and December are not February and March, and that Freshman year and early Sophomore year are not the same as late Junior year and Senior year. They rarely fall into the trap of extrapolating one game, or one half of a game, into a player's predestined future.

Yeah, I like to think that I usually fall into category "C", but, if I have a lean, it's towards "half-full".

Speaking just for myself, I get my pelt rubbed wrong-way when folks of the "half-empty" school seem to "write-off" a Husky based upon early results - when they don't exhibit patience, or a long-term viewpoint, when an 18 0r 19-year old student doesn't exhibit a level of poise or performance or consistency that many adult professional players or teams can't achieve.

I do believe we are spoiled rotten by this program's success, and the astonishing individuals who have come through it. I do believe that many of our expectations are ridiculously high. And, I do believe that we, as fans , do not have the right to use a comment or two by Geno to validate our demanding, critical viewpoints. He has a far, far greater and stronger relationship with these players, and has an entirely different job description. He's earned the right to call somebody out to a much different degree. But, even there, I don't think you would find him writing off players the way some of us do. He certainly will comment on what a player has or hasn't done, but I don't think he'd say anything along the lines of "I knew that player would never start/contribute/fail" or "they won't contribute/be any good going forward, so, I wonder if they'll stay".

I know that there are some things he's not "allowed" to say, and we aren't held to the same restrictions, but, ... sometimes I really wonder if some of us have spent any time around college-age people, or remember ourselves at that age.

Just to be contradictory, that doesn't mean that I fall into the "well, Geno's got to give everybody a chance/playing time, and, if he doesn't, then it's his fault if somebody doesn't produce" camp. I coached high school girls softball for 8 years, and summer/travel teams as well. I fought the "everybody on the team gets a turn, 'cause it's fair" mentality, for years. To put it bluntly, that mindset expires just about at the JV high-school level. Up until then - through Little League/Rec ball, through middle-school, through freshman year - player development is more important than winning (despite what some parent's think). But, varsity teams are playing for conference championships, and state tournaments. Results are printed in the paper, and individual performances are high-lighted. Players are vying for college attention, and maybe scholarships. Wins matter at that level, so playing time is based upon how that contributes to winning. Not having sons, I do not know if the same is true in boy's sports, but, there always seems to be some girls and their parents who cling to the "everybody has to have a turn" mentality, even at the varsity level. JV ball is the pivot point - JV stands for Junior Varsity, and the JV coach has to send the message, whether explicitly or implicitly, that his/her job is identifying and developing varsity-level talent, both physical and mental - and, because of that, the "everybody gets a turn" mindset needs to start to change.

Sorry this has gone on so long, but, I think that we all bring a certain amount of baggage to our fan experience - some of which makes us more susceptible to being negative, positive, impatient, or holding the program to a "girl's" standard, or an "adult" standard, rather than a "college student" standard.
 
We are certainly spoiled by the successes of this program. And some just have a different way of enjoying being a fan. Let me tell you about my dad: He was a big football fan and loved his team. But to listen to him, you would think he hated them! He would talk about every mistake and every player he thought was not performing as they should. If I asked him during one of his rants about all that was wrong with the team why he watched a team he apparently hated, he would be surprised and say "No, I really like this team, they are great, but would be so much better if only..."

So he sounded like a half-empty guy because he thought the only thing worth discussing were the problems. To him, the greatness was obvious and he didn't realize how negative he sounded. And he seemed to enjoy this kind of fandom. (no, I did not and often vacated the room!)
 
We are certainly spoiled by the successes of this program. And some just have a different way of enjoying being a fan. Let me tell you about my dad: He was a big football fan and loved his team. But to listen to him, you would think he hated them! He would talk about every mistake and every player he thought was not performing as they should. If I asked him during one of his rants about all that was wrong with the team why he watched a team he apparently hated, he would be surprised and say "No, I really like this team, they are great, but would be so much better if only..."

So he sounded like a half-empty guy because he thought the only thing worth discussing were the problems. To him, the greatness was obvious and he didn't realize how negative he sounded. And he seemed to enjoy this kind of fandom. (no, I did not and often vacated the room!)
There's no right or wrong way to be a fan. I know most people would rather not hear negative opinions, like you with your dad, but it's easy enough to tune out what you don't like and concentrate on the ones you do like. If there's a poster that continually annoys you, put them on Ignore.
 
Um, I am not complaining about negative posts. Just saying that I understand that some people only comment on the negative even if they don't feel totally negative.
 
MEYER: don't leave us hanging like that, Man. ( I'm guessing that one of the rifle girls took a few pot shots at you during band camp? )
All American (Pie) flute players. :cool: (and come to think of it I did go out with at least one rifle and flag girl, each)

I'm also guessing that "dated" in your parlance means something equivalent to "took a furtive glance from behind a tree.perhaps a date palm."
Suuurrrre. Yea, that's it, a furtive glance. ;) Whatever kept me from getting killed by her daddy.

Nasty attitude you have about clarinet players.....;)
You would have had to have seen them. :rolleyes: I was much shallower in my yute.
 
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MEY: actually, I thought you had discovered somehow that I'm a clarinet player and that you were directing that comment in my direction. Paranoia can sure be a nuisance.
And speaking of yute, which you were, I'm wondering if you ever dated a yute player? (I think you have to climb the Himalayas to find one, but you do seem desperate enough to have made that trek. Not sure how that would fit in with your penchant for very short term relationships. We'd have to get some of the stat guys in on this, but my own quick calculations suggest you've averaged about one date per day since age 23, and all with different women.)
 
MEYER: don't leave us hanging like that, Man. ( I'm guessing that one of the rifle girls took a few pot shots at you during band camp? )
I'm also guessing that "dated" in your parlance means something equivalent to "took a furtive glance from behind a tree.perhaps a date palm."
Nasty attitude you have about clarinet players.....;)
You would have had to have seen them. :rolleyes: I was much shallower in my yute.
My son dated a very lovely young lady that happened to be a clarinet player. But alas, it wasn't to be. Mixed relationships between low brass and clarinets seldom work out.

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Just something to think about when you post. After you write you post and before you click on Post Reply re read it and ask yourself...how would I feel is someone posted that about my daughter or grand daughter?
 
My son dated a very lovely young lady that happened to be a clarinet player. But alas, it wasn't to be. Mixed relationships between low brass and clarinets seldom work out.

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Nan, you crack me up. You have to let the monkey out more often!
 
My son dated a very lovely young lady that happened to be a clarinet player. But alas, it wasn't to be. Mixed relationships between low brass and clarinets seldom work out.

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Very cute, unlike clarinetists in my era. And very true, we low brass were/are a breed of our own.
 
MEY: actually, I thought you had discovered somehow that I'm a clarinet player and that you were directing that comment in my direction. Paranoia can sure be a nuisance.
And speaking of yute, which you were, I'm wondering if you ever dated a yute player? (I think you have to climb the Himalayas to find one, but you do seem desperate enough to have made that trek. Not sure how that would fit in with your penchant for very short term relationships. We'd have to get some of the stat guys in on this, but my own quick calculations suggest you've averaged about one date per day since age 23, and all with different women.)
Paranoia strikes deep, into your life it will creep. Paranoia, the destroyer.

No Himalayas, no Yeti, no Wilt the Stilt.
 
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