Has the gag order been lifted?

[whaler11]

if you want to get into ethics you're arguing for the wrong side

Sure sure you’ve got all the inside dirt that you’ve hinted at for years. Yet the third biggest highlight in 1,300 pages is a phone call from Ray Allen.

You must have supported the NCAA when Geno called the little league pitcher.

 

[Rocktheworld]

Bitter because he got fired and setting up
lawsuit that he got fired because he warned KO about bad stuff.

LMAO GLENN MILLER THE EVIL MASTERMIND.

That’s fake because he knew KO knew the stuff already.

Of course he knew that KO knew. He probably came to KO like "hey, you've got this stuff going on, it's shady, we're going to get caught, you gotta ease off on XYZ, blah blah" and KO was dismissive.

 

[gtcam]

This whole discussion smells of GM being bitter he was replaced by Chill
Yeah Fultz knows a lot about UConn!!!
In the end GM says Yeah, I don't know
A lot of speculation

 

[jleves]

Eh - you're all over thinking and over playing this. Let me summarize.

AD to KO: Ok, you've really stunk up the place and it's time for you to go. We can negotiate a reduced buyout.
KO: No, I want my 10 million.
AD: Well we have a lot of evidence that will support just cause - I really suggest you take a reduced buyout.
KO: You don't have the juevos to go the distance. I'll hold my ground.
AD to GM: You mind talking to an investigator with full immunity? The family is behind you.
GM: You mean I get to burn him? Sure, I'll talk.
KO: Holy crap - you have all that on record? I shoulda taken the reduce buyout.

And that boys and girls are where we are today.

 

[UCDaveD]

The Atlanta trip is nothing, it’s a technicality that makes people trying to get out of a bad contract excited. More serious violations happen on a weekend in September in every P5 program in the country.

What about-ism doesn’t strengthen your argument.

 

[auror]

What's the downside to this that I'm missing?

People think Glen Miller is a jerk?

People thinking that UConn is run like a business (honoring the letter of contracts only when beneficial to them)?

I'm a fan. I'm pretty cool being hypocritical on NCAA investigations.

 

[Captbluefin]

How does this effect Hurley’s recruiting? Does this cast a shadow over the program?
Recruits scared of upcoming violations and punishment against the program ?

 

[gtcam]

Is that legit a rule? No former players can talk to recruits?

Tell that to Coach K - he does it all the time - even uses LeBron and KD - its been documented
Melo does it consistently for Cuse and tours them through the building he built on campus

 

[Chief00]

This whole discussion smells of GM being bitter he was replaced by Chill
Yeah Fultz knows a lot about UConn!!!
In the end GM says Yeah, I don't know
A lot of speculation

Agree, he throws Chill under the bus but has no specifics. The dude is bitter.

 

[HawkHusky]

How does this effect Hurley’s recruiting? Does this cast a shadow over the program?
Recruits scared of upcoming violations and punishment against the program ?

Recruits only care about post-season bans. That's not happening. All is fine on that front.

 

[whaler11]

What about-ism doesn’t strengthen your argument.

Our terrible fanbase is why UConn got left behind... the Ollie situation has made it crystal clear these are not people you want to be in a foxhole with.

Cheering on rat Glen Miller. If I didn’t see it I probably wouldn’t have believed it.

 

[Chief00]

I wonder how often the NCAA gives a coach immunity? Anyone recall that happening before?

 

[whaler11]

Agree, he throws Chill under the bus but has no specifics. The dude is a bitter.

What third party hearsay from a disgrunted ex employee isn’t a smoking gun?

‘Yeah, I don’t know’. But let me tell you some dopey rumors I heard.

 

[ccsuphanner]

Posts in epic thread.

 

[UCDaveD]

Tell that to Coach K - he does it all the time - even uses LeBron and KD - its been documented
Melo does it consistently for Cuse and tours them through the building he built on campus

When did Lebron or KD play for Duke?

 

[Chief00]

Eh - you're all over thinking and over playing this. Let me summarize.

AD to KO: Ok, you've really stunk up the place and it's time for you to go. We can negotiate a reduced buyout.
KO: No, I want my 10 million.
AD: Well we have a lot of evidence that will support just cause - I really suggest you take a reduced buyout.
KO: You don't have the juevos to go the distance. I'll hold my ground.
AD to GM: You mind talking to an investigator with full immunity? The family is behind you.
GM: You mean I get to burn him? Sure, I'll talk.
KO: Holy crap - you have all that on record? I shoulda taken the reduce buyout.

And that boys and girls are where we are today.

Agree on many points, but then GM is going to sue the AD’s school for a few million dollars. So if it was set up as you surmise - it was short sighted.

 

[UCDaveD]

Our terrible fanbase is why UConn got left behind... the Ollie situation has made it crystal clear these are not people you want to be in a foxhole with.

Cheering on rat Glen Miller. If I didn’t see it I probably wouldn’t have believed it.

Yup, that was it. Our terrible fan base. Had nothing to do with grudges born from litigation or anything like that. ACC took one look at the fans and that was it.

 

[intlzncster]

I find it pretty interesting, given the violations, that Glen Miller decided to talk in exchange for immunity. The violations outlined don't seem like they would carry any serious sanctions. It's not like Glen Miller was facing a show cause and decided to cooperate.

Smells like JC in the mix.

I don't see any way Miller didn't at least talk to JC before this NCAA involvement. And they are working together now, so clearly JC has his back.

 

[superjohn]

How does this effect Hurley’s recruiting? Does this cast a shadow over the program?
Recruits scared of upcoming violations and punishment against the program ?

Don't really see it having any effect. Unfortunately Ollie burned a lot of bridges on the trail but I'm not concerned about Hurley and staff. We will get guys.

 

[UconnU]

Agree, he throws Chill under the bus but has no specifics. The dude is a bitter.

Yea, but there's a lot of truth to the stuff.

 

[intlzncster]

You contrast that though to Pat Sellers doing The Godfather movie thing with a sabbatical in China. Who got another D1 job, Pat or Glen? It was Pat.

He still got unfairly railroaded in that whole thing. Always felt bad for Pat.

 

[The Viking]

Rest assured this ethically challenged inept leadership team would never take responsibility for the terrible deal they signed.

Instead they enlisted employees who run another basketball program to rat out their own basketball program.

In case you were wondering what snakes do when backed into a corner...

Well you're stating your assumptions as fact.

Yes, its weak sauce what KO may have done compared to what other coaches likely do, but it's a business. KO and his agent know this due to their several negotiations with UConn over the last 6 years when they got raises. UConn knew this when they negotiated an easy way out if KO doesn't toe the line completely. Was that inept negotating on the part of the leadership team?

As you yourself have stated before, they can't pay 10 million to make Ollie walk. They don't have a printing press. They found an out. They used it and now they have a damn good coach with a damn good coaching staff in place.

 

[AntG168]

Just stop.

If they won and someone tried to raise this as issues you’d be one of the first to take up a torch.

Show one scintilla of integrity and don’t pretend for a second you wouldn’t.

If somone posted an instagram of some kid talking to Ray Allen on the phone it would get 100 likes.

Sure I would. But the dummy broke the rules while also failing miserably. So good riddance to that man. The eggs on his face.

 

[ccsuphanner]

The NCAA is going to absolutely smack us over this, no?

 

[MattMang23]

Eh - you're all over thinking and over playing this. Let me summarize.

AD to KO: Ok, you've really stunk up the place and it's time for you to go. We can negotiate a reduced buyout.
KO: No, I want my 10 million.
AD: Well we have a lot of evidence that will support just cause - I really suggest you take a reduced buyout.
KO: You don't have the juevos to go the distance. I'll hold my ground.
AD to GM: You mind talking to an investigator with full immunity? The family is behind you.
GM: You mean I get to burn him? Sure, I'll talk.
KO: Holy crap - you have all that on record? I shoulda taken the reduce buyout.

And that boys and girls are where we are today.