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The thing that interest me was the comment that his family was up at Cuse now.
 
We all want him even for 1 year but great conferences, schedules playing ranked teams, tv exposure, even coaches. This is very tough to compete with.
 
He wont end up at UK, I am a student there and have several classes with some players and when they do attend class I've asked them about Hami, and per a player who's extremely close to Cal ( Practically his son ;) ) They continue to push just for the sake of building the class and swaying his mind on becoming the next GREAT UK guard. HD loves the Kentucky Fan base, but wants to remain close to home if he goes the college rout. My percentage based opinion is NBA 70% Uconn 30%.
 
HooperScooper said:
Zagoria does seem to like Kentucky for some reason. Anything Calipari or Kentucky does he writes about, even though he works for a New York City based regional network. Maybe he thinks he gets more hits to his blog if he writes about Kentucky. Husky99, ask him some time why he loves Kentucky so much. I'd be curious to see what he says.
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Here's a perfect example.

At Kentucky, 'Worried' Calipari Anxious to Get Camp Cal Going | Zagsblog

Zagoria doesn't seem to write these articles about other top 10 teams.

Look at the front page of Zags Blog.

Home | Zagsblog

The two articles prominently displayed in bold headlines have the word "Kentucky". I have no idea why his has a love affair with Kentucky.
 
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It's really not at all beyond the scope of Calipari to pay members of the media for favorable publications. When it comes to perception and controlling the media discussion Cal is truly the grand master and no one comes close. This type of manipulation happens in every single industry, to think it doesn't happen at big time college sports, especially when it's perfectly legal and within NCAA laws to do so, is foolish.
 
BUConn10 said:
It's really not at all beyond the scope of Calipari to pay members of the media for favorable publications. When it comes to perception and controlling the media discussion Cal is truly the grand master and no one comes close. This type of manipulation happens in every single industry, to think it doesn't happen at big time college sports, especially when it's perfectly legal and within NCAA laws to do so, is foolish.
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Sorry that's not exactly a "master" others just elect to be more ethical and take the high road. And Zags, well he's just drawn into the guys brown hole like a puppy.
 
Zags still thinks he is the first with a scoop that hami could head to the nba, it was really laughable. him going pro had been discussed in abundance here all summer, when he didn't reclassify it was 100% a major discussion point.

I also don't get him leaving out the uconn quote, just a sorry ass troll move. maybe ollie doesn't mess with him
 
mauconnfan said:
Sorry that's not exactly a "master" others just elect to be more ethical and take the high road. And Zags, well he's just drawn into the guys brown hole like a puppy.
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In a world of fake Facebook news that's filled with advertising what is unethical about having a sports blogger who gets paid to write about sports, to write more about your team when you know if directly helps your programs? Bottom line? I'd say it's more savvy business, unfair? Sure, unethical no.
 
BUConn10 said:
In a world of fake Facebook news that's filled with advertising what is unethical about having a sports blogger who gets paid to write about sports, to write more about your team when you know if directly helps your programs? Bottom line? I'd say it's more savvy business, unfair? Sure, unethical no.
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If you're good then why do you need to pay someone to write what you want them to write? I don't get that premise. He's supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread among the recruits, I mean he can get whomever he wants and no one says no if he wants them why does he have to give 10K to Zags to tell people more? I'm good with your thought on may be not being unethical, but is slimey ok then?
 
mauconnfan said:
If you're good then why do you need to pay someone to write what you want them to write? I don't get that premise. He's supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread among the recruits, I mean he can get whomever he wants and no one says no if he wants them why does he have to give 10K to Zags to tell people more? I'm good with your thought on may be not being unethical, but is slimey ok then?
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He's the best at recruiting because of s*** like this. You think, excuse my bluntness but, urban black kids who he is recruiting dreamed of leaving home to go live in the heart of Kentucky for a year surrounded by toothless hicks? No way, they go there because they get the most attention, they have the best resume for getting guys drafted, they dont spare any expense on their basketball players, and they have a fan base that will pay anything, and anyone to come to their program and make it stronger. BBN is in itself a part of Cal's recruiting juggernaut, and its now the internet age.
 
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BUConn10 said:
He's the best at recruiting because of s*** like this. You think, excuse my bluntness but, urban black kids who he is recruiting dreamed of leaving home to go live in the heart of Kentucky for a year surrounded by toothless hicks? No way, they go there because they get the most attention, they have the best resume for getting guys drafted, they dont spare any expense on their basketball players, and they have a fan base that will pay anything, and anyone to come to their program and make it stronger. BBN is in itself a part of Cal's recruiting juggernaut, and its now the internet age.
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He's good because he's at Kentucky he couldn't do what he's doing to this extent at Memphis or UAss. Now he is a good recruiter always has been but at Kentucky he's on top. But he's not clean period, never can tell me he is or ever will be. He's creative I'm sure we will never know, but he's slime. And while he's a good coach he's not great and kids arent' walking out of there with NBA contracts because of him. It's because they're good enough already - Monk could go to IUPUI and be whatever draft choice he is at UK. The NBA scouts know what they want, they're just happy some guy gets the best players in one spot so they can travel less.
 
A couple people have brought up the possibility that PERHAPS Zags covers UK so much is because it gives him a lot of clicks. Guys, it is unbelievably obvious that this is the case.
 
walker11 said:
A couple people have brought up the possibility that PERHAPS Zags covers UK so much is because it gives him a lot of clicks. Guys, it is unbelievably obvious that this is the case.
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I would think clicks, and also because UK is constantly in on so many name recruits.

If he covers them more favorably, it increases his chances of getting more info from people on Kentucky's payroll. It could be something as simple as that.

But how anyone can take this guy's "reporting" seriously is beyond me.
 
upstater said:
Oh no, not this again!!!!
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I'm not sure how you can be an active member of this board and miss the half dozen times you have broken this down. You have a lot of patience.
 
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walker11 said:
I'm not sure how you can be an active member of this board and miss the half dozen times you have broken this down. You have a lot of patience.
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In fairness, if he's talking about Kentucky only, it is true that no other school save Duke can compete with that.
 
Its funny that people can simplify the concept of "TV exposure" down to a simple count of how many games we have shown on ESPN/CBS.

I guess that would mean that The Big Bang Theory and whatever new show CBS is about to cancel get the same "TV exposure" right? Both shows have one weekly slot for their new episodes, or is it that one show has way more eyeballs on it? Are people tuning in to see UConn vs Memphis just because its on ESPN2 while Duke-Virginia is on ESPN? The answer is no.
 
BUConn10 said:
Its funny that people can simplify the concept of "TV exposure" down to a simple count of how many games we have shown on ESPN/CBS.

I guess that would mean that The Big Bang Theory and whatever new show CBS is about to cancel get the same "TV exposure" right? Both shows have one weekly slot for their new episodes, or is it that one show has way more eyeballs on it? Are people tuning in to see UConn vs Memphis just because its on ESPN2 while Duke-Virginia is on ESPN? The answer is no.
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No one (I hope) is going to argue against what you are saying. I don't remember seeing that...There are a several schools which get much better TV exposure due to the caliber of their opponents. But our exposure is still pretty good, and isn't going to be a deciding factor to a recruit unless they are being linked to the UK, Duke, UNCs of the world.
 
BUConn10 said:
Its funny that people can simplify the concept of "TV exposure" down to a simple count of how many games we have shown on ESPN/CBS.

I guess that would mean that The Big Bang Theory and whatever new show CBS is about to cancel get the same "TV exposure" right? Both shows have one weekly slot for their new episodes, or is it that one show has way more eyeballs on it? Are people tuning in to see UConn vs Memphis just because its on ESPN2 while Duke-Virginia is on ESPN? The answer is no.
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UConn's ratings are pretty good. I excepted Duke and Kentucky in this. But UConn's are comparable to other top schools. The record doesn't lie. UConn's games are typically .5 to 1 rating. Look up Arizona, Syracuse, Michigan St. Same. UConn also has a CBS game with excellent ratings.

Take the Jimmy V Classic: .9 Duke/Florida, .7 UConn/Maryland.

Even the UConn women, BTW, get higher ratings nationally than the vast majority of P5 schools. .5 or .6.
 
walker11 said:
No one (I hope) is going to argue against what you are saying. I don't remember seeing that...There are a several schools which get much better TV exposure due to the caliber of their opponents. But our exposure is still pretty good, and isn't going to be a deciding factor to a recruit unless they are being linked to the UK, Duke, UNCs of the world.
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Maybe not, but also maybe.

You are an elite recruit, basketball is your life. You have been watching college ball for years because its bball and that will be you soon. You are deciding where to go play, in the past UConn had the BET in MSG as a big draw, how else did our recruiting come up from literally nothing in the early days, its a draw. Now you are considering the current UConn team, and you have to decide between being a part of the UConn-Cinci annual "biggest game/rivalry of the conference" or be part of the Duke-UNC rivalry storyline, or the UK-vs whoever in the annual champions classic matchup, and the choice starts to seem more like a "deciding factor" slowly and surely as the number of those recruiting you heavily gets slimmed down to your top options.
 
BUConn10 said:
Maybe not, but also maybe.

You are an elite recruit, basketball is your life. You have been watching college ball for years because its bball and that will be you soon. You are deciding where to go play, in the past UConn had the BET in MSG as a big draw, how else did our recruiting come up from literally nothing in the early days, its a draw. Now you are considering the current UConn team, and you have to decide between being a part of the UConn-Cinci annual "biggest game/rivalry of the conference" or be part of the Duke-UNC rivalry storyline, or the UK-vs whoever in the annual champions classic matchup, and the choice starts to seem more like a "deciding factor" slowly and surely as the number of those recruiting you heavily gets slimmed down to your top options.
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Again, not disagreeing with your premise. This post may not endear itself to our fans but to be real, if I am an unbiased recruit, I am not going to UCONN. Probably UK, Duke, or my local major college team if that is important to me. I don't think we should be expending a lot of energy against these schools, and to be fair, we haven't. Except for when the guy is local, i.e. Hami, of course. I am more worried about beating out the Cuse's, Ville's, UF's etc. and while Cuse and Ville have better quality of exposure, I don't think it would be the most important factor.
 
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walker11 said:
Again, not disagreeing with your premise. This post may not endear itself to our fans but to be real, if I am an unbiased recruit, I am not going to UCONN. Probably UK, Duke, or my local major college team if that is important to me. I don't think we should be expending a lot of energy against these schools, and to be fair, we haven't. Except for when the guy is local, i.e. Hami, of course. I am more worried about beating out the Cuse's, Ville's, UF's etc. and while Cuse and Ville have better quality of exposure, I don't think it would be the most important factor.
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Agreed.
 
Some ratings for comparison:

Last year's SMU/UConn on CBS did a .9.

The Jimmy V Classic 2016 and 2015: .9 Duke/Florida, .7 UConn/Maryland.

Or, Maui, Wisconsin v. UNC this year did a .6.

Last year, a couple ratings: UConn/Gtown 1.0.

CBS triple header: Duke/NC State 1.4, UCLA/Oregon (2nd leg of the triple) did a .8. Ohio St/UConn was a .9.

Even the UConn women, BTW, get higher ratings nationally than the vast majority of P5 schools. .5 or .6.
 
BUConn10 said:
Maybe not, but also maybe.

You are an elite recruit, basketball is your life. You have been watching college ball for years because its bball and that will be you soon. You are deciding where to go play, in the past UConn had the BET in MSG as a big draw, how else did our recruiting come up from literally nothing in the early days, its a draw. Now you are considering the current UConn team, and you have to decide between being a part of the UConn-Cinci annual "biggest game/rivalry of the conference" or be part of the Duke-UNC rivalry storyline, or the UK-vs whoever in the annual champions classic matchup, and the choice starts to seem more like a "deciding factor" slowly and surely as the number of those recruiting you heavily gets slimmed down to your top options.
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UConn rarely if ever beat UNC and Duke for recruits.

It rarely happened. For every Andrew Bynum, there were 10 Deon Thompsons. It's just how it used to be.
 
upstater said:
Some ratings for comparison:

Last year's SMU/UConn on CBS did a .9.

The Jimmy V Classic 2016 and 2015: .9 Duke/Florida, .7 UConn/Maryland.

Or, Maui, Wisconsin v. UNC this year did a .6.

Last year, a couple ratings: UConn/Gtown 1.0.

CBS triple header: Duke/NC State 1.4, UCLA/Oregon (2nd leg of the triple) did a .8. Ohio St/UConn was a .9.

Even the UConn women, BTW, get higher ratings nationally than the vast majority of P5 schools. .5 or .6.
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One thing difficult to quantify is hype. Even if we are getting eyeballs, for whatever reason, it doesn't seem to be translating to the same amount of discussion. This is partly anecdotal, but I don't see as as many articles on ESPN (I think ESPN pushing the ACC a little is undeniable, and I am not a cynical conspiracy theorist - it just makes sense for them) or as much discussion on social media amongst "college basketball twitter" or as many comments in reddit threads.
 
walker11 said:
A couple people have brought up the possibility that PERHAPS Zags covers UK so much is because it gives him a lot of clicks. Guys, it is unbelievably obvious that this is the case.
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Probably true, but I think it's fair to question the Canadian pimper's integrity. In that he's demonstrated a lack of it. What is Emmanuel Owootoah up to these days anyway?
 
selles said:
Probably true, but I think it's fair to question the Canadian pimper's integrity. In that he's demonstrated a lack of it. What is Emmanuel Owootoah up to these days anyway?
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Yea, those articles were undeniably ridiculous. I'll on Zags as much as the next guy, I just think his rationale for shilling for UK is understandable in a way - clicks matter for him.
 
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