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Greatest College BB Programs Ever

54. Providence
Record since 1938-39: 1,147-768 | Regular-season titles: 0
NCAA Tournaments: 20 | Final Fours: 2
Weeks ranked: 143 | Top-60 NBA picks: 28
POINTS: 394.8

On the top five list of most surprising things I learned doing this list: Providence hangs zero regular-season conference championship banners for men's basketball.
 
Couldn‘t read the article so not sure of the methodology, but these rankings always seem to depend on how the author values pre-1980 vs post-1980 performance (Hard to believe that post-1980 is 40yrs!). If post-1980 is valued more, then programs like UCLA, Indiana, Cincinnati fall and programs like UConn, Florida and Michigan State rise.

Btw, no matter what period you use, I would assume Syracuse is 69+.
 
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Before we see the results, given the way he's looking at this, how would you define a "blue blood" program if it was based on this ranking? Top 5? Top 10?
 
Ranking formula from the article:

"The rankings were compiled using an objective statistical formula based on 13 categories: wins, losses, national championships, Final Four appearances, Elite Eight appearances, NCAA Tournament bids, regular-season championships, NIT championships (they held significant value long ago), total weeks ranked, wins over ranked opponents, top-10 NBA Draft picks, first-round/11-30 NBA draft picks and second round/31-60 NBA draft picks."
 
gampelcrazies said:
I'm sure we will be top 15 but these last few years have done a number of the perception of our program.
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Agreed. But I like that this is purely numbers-based. And going back to the beginning of the tourney era, all the way back in the 1930s covers a lot of ground. Of course, any increased weighting of the last 25 years would benefit us, but I still think it's a cool distraction so I don't go totaly nuts waiting for a season to hopefully start.

I'd sure like to know how he weighted the diffferent categories, though.
 
CCSUblue said:
Ranking formula from the article:

"The rankings were compiled using an objective statistical formula based on 13 categories: wins, losses, national championships, Final Four appearances, Elite Eight appearances, NCAA Tournament bids, regular-season championships, NIT championships (they held significant value long ago), total weeks ranked, wins over ranked opponents, top-10 NBA Draft picks, first-round/11-30 NBA draft picks and second round/31-60 NBA draft picks."
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Do our Yankee Conference championships count the same as a B10 championship?


BTW, "Jim Calhoun almost losing his mind for not recruiting Ryan Gomes" making it into the Providence entry tells you all you have to know.
 
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ucp990411 said:
How about 6th behind (in order), UCLA, Kentucky, Duke, UNC, Kansas, Indiana. We really shou;d be 4. #1in my heart however.
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I’d agree with that but better not be behind any new or old big east team particularly orange men.
 
Isn't this like the 10th one of this type of article in the last few years? UConn is usually in the 5-9 range so I'll say that is where they fall in this list. 4 national championships and many BE championships but the inconsistency of a few bad years holds them back from a higher ranking. Plus if this analysis is going back to 1938 that hurts UConn. They usually do better with the ones that do a ranking starting in 1985 (the year the NCAA Tournament was expanded to 64 teams).
 
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Bongo Fury said:
I’d agree with that but better not be behind any new or old big east team particularly orange men.
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If they really are factoring in regular season championships, a lot of the BE wasn't really in a league for a very long time. Syracuse, for instance, doesn't have a regular season title until 1980.
 
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HooperScooper said:
Isn't this like the 10th one of this type of article in the last few years? UConn is usually in the 5-9 range so I'll say that is where they fall in this list. 4 national championships and many BE championships but they always hold the few years UConn didn't have good years in the negative column.

Which brings up the inevitable argument. In the last 35 years would you rather be a Kansas fan (1 NC but much better consistency) or a UConn fan?
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I'd rather be a PeeCee fan than a Kansas fan. Honestly.
 
HooperScooper said:
Why? Because most Kansas fans live in Kansas? :)
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Pretty much. At heart, I'm a Northeast guy, not a Midwest guy across the board. (*he says, from west of the continental divide*)
 
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We’re probably going to be ranked behind a couple weak ass random P5 schools like Purdue or Texas or something.
 
www.espn.com

Counting down the most prestigious programs since 1984-85

What college basketball programs have been the most consistent, the most prestigious since the 1984-85 season? After unveiling the top 290 schools all week, here are the top 10.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

espn ranked us 6th in 2008 so i'd say 5th now behind UK, KU, UNC, and Duke. this was a post1984 list but we've won an additional 2 chips since the list came out.
 
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Top 7 is my guess. Yankee Conference championships keeps us ahead of teams like Syracuse which were independent for many years before the Big East!
 
Just guessing top 10...

UK
Ucla
Duke
Unc
Kansas
Indiana
UConn
Louisville
Syracuse
Arizona

Just outside (in no particular order) would be

Mich st
Ohio st
Gtown
Mich
Villanova
Cinci
 
huskiesNhoos said:
Just guessing top 10...

UK
Ucla
Duke
Unc
Kansas
Indiana
UConn
Louisville
Syracuse
Arizona

Just outside (in no particular order) would be

Mich st
Ohio st
Gtown
Mich
Villanova
Cinci
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Agree with everything, but I think Michigan St would be in the top 10 in place of Syracuse.
 
HooperScooper said:
Isn't this like the 10th one of this type of article in the last few years? UConn is usually in the 5-9 range so I'll say that is where they fall in this list. 4 national championships and many BE championships but the inconsistency of a few bad years holds them back from a higher ranking. Plus if this analysis is going back to 1938 that hurts UConn. They usually do better with the ones that do a ranking starting in 1985 (the year the NCAA Tournament was expanded to 64 teams).
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If they are judging programs basically from their existence, you can see some surprises like a St John's making the top 25. IIRC, St John's is ranked top 10 for all time wins in college basketball history.
 
CCSUblue said:
Ranking formula from the article:

"The rankings were compiled using an objective statistical formula based on 13 categories: wins, losses, national championships, Final Four appearances, Elite Eight appearances, NCAA Tournament bids, regular-season championships, NIT championships (they held significant value long ago), total weeks ranked, wins over ranked opponents, top-10 NBA Draft picks, first-round/11-30 NBA draft picks and second round/31-60 NBA draft picks."
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What the heck do NBA draft picks have to do with being a good college program? Especially if you are going back as Far as this goes for some stats, it is just a silly stat. Example UConn 2006. That team had draft picks up upon draft picks. It was maybe the 10 th best team. Plus 2nd round picks are basically the equivalent of NFL free agent draftees. You want to look at what a college team accomplished, look at the TEAM accomplishments.
 
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