Grad Transfers and Marijuana Use

[Scrutineer]

Well if we ever needed a thread/discussion to determine posters' age without saying it, this is it

Well, the point of this whole discussion was to identify age bias relative to the potential dangers of using an easily abused intoxicant, so congratulations on being so accomplished.

 

[navery12]

Well, the point of this whole discussion was to identify age bias relative to the potential dangers of using an easily abused intoxicant, so congratulations on being so accomplished.

Sorry, didn't realize we were discussing alcohol

 

[Lefty2one]

Man, the war on drugs brainwashed some people good. The gov't did their job; bought hook, line, and sinker. Just another thing that will take a generation to normalize in the US.

 

[Scrutineer]

Facts? The fact is that it is far less harmful than alcohol and can be taxed to help states pay for things like roads and other infrastructure. Anything that isn't done in moderation can be problematic.

Sorry, didn't realize we were discussing alcohol

If your facts about what is more or less harmful are from "High Times", they don't count.

And if you believe governments will use the taxes for infrastructure you haven't been paying attention. The money always ends up in the General Fund. They haven't used lottery funds the way they promised and the costs for gambling addiction treatment aren't being met with the revenues from the casinos so why would you believe the taxes on marijuana will be used for anything like infrastructure? It would make more sense to dedicate the money to treatment of drug abuse but that won't happen based on prior experience.

Dr.Hoop provided a couple links to studies and said he could provide lots more, but take a look at this NIH study for its conclusions about THC:
Marijuana

Some of their conclusions, that may even be facts: THC overactivates certain brain cell receptors, resulting in effects such as:

• altered senses
• changes in mood
• impaired body movement
• difficulty with thinking and problem-solving
• impaired memory and learning

The last two should be frightening for young people facing a future requiring technology- centric skills.

Try this article: Is Marijuana Really Harmless? Not According to This New Book
I saw an interview with the author and he makes some pretty compelling points.

The facts are the most recent studies show strong evidence of psychoses associated with use of the newest highly powerful strains, along with depression and other problems. Crime statistics were expected to decline where marijuana was made easily accessible for recreational use but that is the opposite of what has happened with violent crimes in Colorado.

 

[JMick]

If your facts about what is more or less harmful are from "High Times", they don't count.

And if you believe governments will use the taxes for infrastructure you haven't been paying attention. The money always ends up in the General Fund. They haven't used lottery funds the way they promised and the costs for gambling addiction treatment aren't being met with the revenues from the casinos so why would you believe the taxes on marijuana will be used for anything like infrastructure? It would make more sense to dedicate the money to treatment of drug abuse but that won't happen based on prior experience.

Dr.Hoop provided a couple links to studies and said he could provide lots more, but take a look at this NIH study for its conclusions about THC:
Marijuana

Some of their conclusions, that may even be facts: THC overactivates certain brain cell receptors, resulting in effects such as:

• altered senses
• changes in mood
• impaired body movement
• difficulty with thinking and problem-solving
• impaired memory and learning

The last two should be frightening for young people facing a future requiring technology- centric skills.

Try this article: Is Marijuana Really Harmless? Not According to This New Book
I saw an interview with the author and he makes some pretty compelling points.

The facts are the most recent studies show strong evidence of psychoses associated with use of the newest highly powerful strains, along with depression and other problems. Crime statistics were expected to decline where marijuana was made easily accessible for recreational use but that is the opposite of what has happened with violent crimes in Colorado.

This guy is a wackjob with an agenda. I listened to him too, while he was on Joe Rogan. The dude is a complete fraud and misinterpreted tons of data. He's trying to sell books. Go watch him there and see how quickly his arguments fall apart.

35,000,000 people in the US regularly use marijuana. No one has ever died. It's not making people stupid.

 

[Lefty2one]

Crime statistics were expected to decline where marijuana was made easily accessible for recreational use but that is the opposite of what has happened with violent crimes in Colorado.

It's all correlation vs causation. People can have views all over the place on cannabis but if you really think weed makes anyone more violent then I don't know what to tell you. Every study out there that claims a link between cannabis and violence is a reach at best. Billions of dollars are at stake for big pharma and the alcohol industry. This is a America; your head is in the sand if you don't think they're doing everything they can to paint cannabis in a negative light.

Weed making people violent is up there with it being a "gateway drug". I've seen so many drunk people get violent and aggressive. I'm pushing 40 years of age and I have never seen a single person who was high (just high, not drunk as well) become violent.

 

[superjohn]

Man, the war on drugs brainwashed some people good. The gov't did their job; bought hook, line, and sinker. Just another thing that will take a generation to normalize in the US.

They've turned their sights onto vaping now.

 

[JMick]

They've turned their sights onto vaping now.

It's always new things because old people generally don't like change

 

[JMick]

It's all correlation vs causation. People can have views all over the place on cannabis but if you really think weed makes anyone more violent then I don't know what to tell you. Every study out there that claims a link between cannabis and violence is a reach at best. Billions of dollars are at stake for big pharma and the alcohol industry. This is a America; your head is in the sand if you don't think they're doing everything they can to paint cannabis in a negative light.

Weed making people violent is up there with it being a "gateway drug". I've seen so many drunk people get violent and aggressive. I'm pushing 40 years of age and I have never seen a single person who was high (just high, not drunk as well) become violent.

If anyone thinks that weed makes you violent then they've clearly never used it lol. It's funny watching people relive reefer madness all over again. I bet this guy has tons of friends and family that smoke and just don't tell him

 

[olehead]

If your facts about what is more or less harmful are from "High Times", they don't count.

And if you believe governments will use the taxes for infrastructure you haven't been paying attention. The money always ends up in the General Fund. They haven't used lottery funds the way they promised and the costs for gambling addiction treatment aren't being met with the revenues from the casinos so why would you believe the taxes on marijuana will be used for anything like infrastructure? It would make more sense to dedicate the money to treatment of drug abuse but that won't happen based on prior experience.

Dr.Hoop provided a couple links to studies and said he could provide lots more, but take a look at this NIH study for its conclusions about THC:
Marijuana

Some of their conclusions, that may even be facts: THC overactivates certain brain cell receptors, resulting in effects such as:

• altered senses
• changes in mood
• impaired body movement
• difficulty with thinking and problem-solving
• impaired memory and learning

The last two should be frightening for young people facing a future requiring technology- centric skills.

Try this article: Is Marijuana Really Harmless? Not According to This New Book
I saw an interview with the author and he makes some pretty compelling points.

The facts are the most recent studies show strong evidence of psychoses associated with use of the newest highly powerful strains, along with depression and other problems. Crime statistics were expected to decline where marijuana was made easily accessible for recreational use but that is the opposite of what has happened with violent crimes in Colorado.

They still publish "High Times"?

 

[intlzncster]

They still publish "High Times"?

You think they were bout to miss the golden age, head? Not a chance.

 

[8893]

You think they were bout to miss the golden age, head? Not a chance.

I got a banner ad here the other day seeking investors in High Times. Not kidding.

 

[Lefty2one]

If anyone thinks that weed makes you violent then they've clearly never used it lol. It's funny watching people relive reefer madness all over again. I bet this guy has tons of friends and family that smoke and just don't tell him

Right. My wife doesn't like when I smoke because I become too silly, laugh too much, and eat all the Ben & Jerry's in the freezer. Oh, the humanity!

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

If anyone thinks that weed makes you violent then they've clearly never used it lol. It's funny watching people relive reefer madness all over again. I bet this guy has tons of friends and family that smoke and just don't tell him

I doubt he has tons of friends but point taken. Definitely someone who thinks that everyone who's ever ingested THC talks like Jeff Spicoli.

 

[imno1]

I got a banner ad here the other day seeking investors in High Times. Not kidding.

I've already invested a lot in high times

 

[uconnphil2016]

My cousin died of a marijuana overdose.

 

[Walker11]

If your facts about what is more or less harmful are from "High Times", they don't count.

And if you believe governments will use the taxes for infrastructure you haven't been paying attention. The money always ends up in the General Fund. They haven't used lottery funds the way they promised and the costs for gambling addiction treatment aren't being met with the revenues from the casinos so why would you believe the taxes on marijuana will be used for anything like infrastructure? It would make more sense to dedicate the money to treatment of drug abuse but that won't happen based on prior experience.

Dr.Hoop provided a couple links to studies and said he could provide lots more, but take a look at this NIH study for its conclusions about THC:
Marijuana

Some of their conclusions, that may even be facts: THC overactivates certain brain cell receptors, resulting in effects such as:

• altered senses
• changes in mood
• impaired body movement
• difficulty with thinking and problem-solving
• impaired memory and learning

The last two should be frightening for young people facing a future requiring technology- centric skills.

Try this article: Is Marijuana Really Harmless? Not According to This New Book
I saw an interview with the author and he makes some pretty compelling points.

The facts are the most recent studies show strong evidence of psychoses associated with use of the newest highly powerful strains, along with depression and other problems. Crime statistics were expected to decline where marijuana was made easily accessible for recreational use but that is the opposite of what has happened with violent crimes in Colorado.

Your bolded claims are a good argument for why you shouldn't be able to drive while stoned. That's it. The psychosis claim is the better argument but from what I understand, people who will develop schizophrenia may have an earlier onset because of marijuana use. That's not great, and I don't like how people claim weed is completely harmless but for the overwhelming majority, it is completely harmless.

I used to smoke a lot but gave it up because it would occasionally make me anxious. When it's legal and I can know the strain I am getting I may start again. Anyone try kratom? Seems like no to very little risk for a pleasant legal drug.

 

[superjohn]

My cousin died of a marijuana overdose.

A couple of friends I grew up with smoked drugs for the first time, they were both dead within a week from the pot. There is nothing cool about smoking drugs, there are still lots of weed overdoses.

 

[UConnStats]

My cousin died of a marijuana overdose.

I’m going to go on hunger strike until every single pot is off the streets

 

[KembaStepback]

How old do you think I am?

If someone is high, they will be stupid. If someone is drunk they will be stupid.

I know very successful and smart people who use marijuana often.

Like I said before...too much of a good thing can be bad. I just think if the government regulated things it would be beneficial. I dont want to get into government because that's a government issue not a marijuana issue.

 

[mrl2016]

with all that said, i think there are more pragmatic reasons to support the legalization- but let's not pretend that regular marijuana use has no consequence. (edit: this comment belongs on cesspool. sorry in advance for participating in the de-railing of this threadl)

 

[Son of Robert]

Those little vape pens they sell at the dispensary are off the hook. The perfect balance of fun and energy and feeling good. It's a nice smooth rise.

 

[intlzncster]

I doubt he has tons of friends but point taken. Definitely someone who thinks that everyone who's ever ingested THC talks like Jeff Spicoli.

Jeff Spicoli is a hero and an icon. Leave him out of this.

 

[uconnbill]

This guy is a wackjob with an agenda. I listened to him too, while he was on Joe Rogan. The dude is a complete fraud and misinterpreted tons of data. He's trying to sell books. Go watch him there and see how quickly his arguments fall apart.

35,000,000 people in the US regularly use marijuana. No one has ever died. It's not making people stupid.

Those numbers are incorrect.

Any study that says no one has died for the effects of marijuana is lying. Driving under the influence of marijuana has lead to deaths. As Colorado auto deaths involving marijuana rise, CDOT is asking thousands how they feel about driving under pot’s influence – The Denver Post

more the those who can't read VERIFY: How has recreational marijuana affected DUI and traffic deaths?

 

[Walker11]

I know very successful and smart people who use marijuana often..

One of the bigger surprises of adulthood was realizing how ubiquitous casual pot smoking is amongst highly successful people.