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BUConn10 said:
Ok I guess you are right.

I have a cousin that is finishing up his accounting degree at CCSU this semester. He should be eligible to play immediately, any word if Chill has followed him on twitter?
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Good one.
 
Matrim55 said:
Saw this kid a lot for a few years (I live out in California and watch a lot of Pac 12 hoops). He's one of those guys who, the less he does the better he is on offense. That isn't to say he can't shoot – his 3-point percentage is mostly fine – but once he puts the ball on the floor almost nothing good is going to happen. So on that side of the ball he's strictly a guy who should spot up, or sneak back door for lay-ups.

Defensively he's REALLY good. Gave Cal's back court a ton of problems in 14/15 and 15/16, including guys like Matthews and Wallace, etc etc. He's built like a brick s%*!house and has good lateral quickness, so he can credibly guard 1-through-3. And he's a DOG. Really, really likes tough games, fights through screens, is good at swiping in passing lanes, etc. Tough tough tough kid (hockey player, I believe), the type you don't notice if you're just watching the a game, but one you'll hate if he's playing your team.

If we're asking him to play 30 MPG and make plays, we're in trouble. But if we're asking him for 15 mins of defense, running and spot-up shooting... I like this signing a lot. I hope we get him.
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Thanks for the in depth scouting report. Sounds like a tough junk yard dog. We need some leadership in action even if limited minutes. Minutes are won in practice. Give our guards a good workout in practice too.
 
Matrim55 said:
Saw this kid a lot for a few years (I live out in California and watch a lot of Pac 12 hoops). He's one of those guys who, the less he does the better he is on offense. That isn't to say he can't shoot – his 3-point percentage is mostly fine – but once he puts the ball on the floor almost nothing good is going to happen. So on that side of the ball he's strictly a guy who should spot up, or sneak back door for lay-ups.

Defensively he's REALLY good. Gave Cal's back court a ton of problems in 14/15 and 15/16, including guys like Matthews and Wallace, etc etc. He's built like a brick s%*!house and has good lateral quickness, so he can credibly guard 1-through-3. And he's a DOG. Really, really likes tough games, fights through screens, is good at swiping in passing lanes, etc. Tough tough tough kid (hockey player, I believe), the type you don't notice if you're just watching the a game, but one you'll hate if he's playing your team.

If we're asking him to play 30 MPG and make plays, we're in trouble. But if we're asking him for 15 mins of defense, running and spot-up shooting... I like this signing a lot. I hope we get him.
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This is exactly the sort of player who can both provide key minutes to neutralize another teams shooter who goes off for a career game (sound familiar) and prepare our primary guards for cincy-like defense (or Kansas in 2016 NCAA) which extends past the three point line and kills our offense (also too familiar).
 
We have 5 scholarships open, no seniors, and 4 freshmen. Getting a few seniors would help balance the class and make sure we could field 5 on 5s in practice.

I don't like that this is the situation we're in. But we have KO for next year and at least the year after. And, I think, we all hope for longer. We had stop gaps like RJ Evans in a year that led to 20 wins. No offense to RJ Evans...

If a coach who has seen him (Chillious) wants him, I'm going to take that guys word over a bunch of message board posters who have never seen him. If we're going to run 3-guard line-ups out there, he seems like a reasonable 5th guard.
 
tzznandrew said:
We have 5 scholarships open, no seniors, and 4 freshmen. Getting a few seniors would help balance the class and make sure we could field 5 on 5s in practice.

I don't like that this is the situation we're in. But we have KO for next year and at least the year after. And, I think, we all hope for longer. We had stop gaps like RJ Evans in a year that led to 20 wins. No offense to RJ Evans...

If a coach who has seen him (Chillious) wants him, I'm going to take that guys word over a bunch of message board posters who have never seen him. If we're going to run 3-guard line-ups out there, he seems like a reasonable 5th guard.
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I just want to mentally prepare our fans now.

He's had a highover turnover rate in all 3 of his seasons than Brimah had in any of his season's.
 
Here here I'm with you, These guys know their hoops. I think they have Plan A B C and D. They've seen people that are their type of players. I don't think they are going to be sitting on their hands.
If you look throughout our history and NCAA history you will see that teams that win NCAA championship have to get great guard play, you can get away with mediocre big man play but you need great guard play. Ricky Moore and Khalid, Ben Gordon And Taliek, Kemba and Shabbaz, Shabbaz and Ryan. It didn't matter what Rocoe Smith did. Guards are where it stars and ends. Again Not good guard play GREAT guard play.
 
tzznandrew said:
We have 5 scholarships open, no seniors, and 4 freshmen. Getting a few seniors would help balance the class and make sure we could field 5 on 5s in practice.

I don't like that this is the situation we're in. But we have KO for next year and at least the year after. And, I think, we all hope for longer. We had stop gaps like RJ Evans in a year that led to 20 wins. No offense to RJ Evans...

If a coach who has seen him (Chillious) wants him, I'm going to take that guys word over a bunch of message board posters who have never seen him. If we're going to run 3-guard line-ups out there, he seems like a reasonable 5th guard.
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No offense to RJ but this kid looks to be potentially of higher impact than RJ just based on athleticism. Who knows but Chillious did see him multiple times as others have mentioned, I will go with his feel on this one. We really have no idea of there is mutual interest anyway, like others we have long threads on. So many moving pieces right now, the good news is they are doing their best to analyze everyone available out there, and I expect they will come up with a couple nice answers for next year.
 
mauconnfan said:
No offense to RJ but this kid looks to be potentially of higher impact than RJ just based on athleticism. Who knows but Chillious did see him multiple times as others have mentioned, I will go with his feel on this one. We really have no idea of there is mutual interest anyway, like others we have long threads on. So many moving pieces right now, the good news is they are doing their best to analyze everyone available out there, and I expect they will come up with a couple nice answers for next year.
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A 3 and D guy is a perfect fit for a 4th/5th guard right now. Especially one who's experienced and only takes one year of scholarships. Would really like to nail this guy down for most of the reasons mentioned ITT.
 
High turnover rate is less important if he's a defensive specialist. They can find a role that covers up his weaknesses and takes advantage of his strengths. I would be happy to have him. Sounds like he adds a lot of off-stat-sheet value.
 
He is the perfect 4th guard in a 2 guard lineup. I would like more of an offensive player if we are going for a 3 guard lineup. We need 2 guards now a days I wI'll take him or Samuel in a second. We need one of the guards to defend the 3 position well
 
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pj said:
High turnover rate is less important if he's a defensive specialist. They can find a role that covers up his weaknesses and takes advantage of his strengths. I would be happy to have him. Sounds like he adds a lot of off-stat-sheet value.
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Plus, when you have Adams, Gilbert, and larrier dominating the ball, he's not gonna have it in his hands much. And those guys ability will leave him more open shots in the perimeter, which plays to his strengths. . Thus guy is a win/win imo.
 
pj said:
High turnover rate is less important if he's a defensive specialist. They can find a role that covers up his weaknesses and takes advantage of his strengths. I would be happy to have him. Sounds like he adds a lot of off-stat-sheet value.
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Just preparing our fanbase's lungs for yelling at the screen, even though I do think that role would be a good addition. A 3-and D guy should be very low turnover rate, because all they're required to do is catch and shoot (ending most of their own possessions with a shot and low risk of turnover). I didn't watch much OSU 2 years ago, so I don't know if he had a larger role than that, but I'd guess it was likely so based on @Matrim55's comments.

Hopefully he's improved his shot as he's aged. 36% is fine, but ideally in that role you'd want someone in the 38+% range (and his previous seasons %'s and FT% don't give a ton of optimism). Likewise, his steal and block numbers are troublingly low for a lockdown guy. Maybe he didn't gamble much?
 
auror said:
Hopefully he's improved his shot as he's aged. 36% is fine, but ideally in that role you'd want someone in the 38+% range (and his previous seasons %'s and FT% don't give a ton of optimism). Likewise, his steal and block numbers are troublingly low for a lockdown guy. Maybe he didn't gamble much?
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Devil's advocate because I never saw OSU play, but having superior players (dangerous with the ball) will help that % a bit, given he'll have more wide open opportunities.

Also, his steal/block numbers might reflect that his guy couldn't even get the ball!
 
Kid has some range. ESPN said he is from Louisville. We are not too close if grandmother is in Louisville as well.
 
intlzncster said:
Devil's advocate because I never saw OSU play, but having superior players (dangerous with the ball) will help that % a bit, given he'll have more wide open opportunities.
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He was asked to handle the ball quite a bit more than was reasonable, since Payton was the only true facilitator on the team.

Also, his steal/block numbers might reflect that his guy couldn't even get the ball!
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Not quite that. OSU's defense (like their offense) was built around Payton, who was long and active and took a ton of risks. That meant Duvivier (and everyone else) had to play more conservatively. I'd compare him to Rodney in that regard, though he's not quite as good an athlete.
 
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dennismenace said:
Really has some range and good speed finishing. How is his D ?
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A notch below CV on a good day. I think he has a chance to be one of the true sleepers in 2017. Same with Zhaire Smith. This is a kid under the radar with huge upside IMHO. He fits the Hungry Husky mold. I apologize for not discussing the OP's player but think we can do better. I like ZM. Not worried about rankings with him at this point as we are looking for some undervalued talent.

 
I can appreciate that @Matrim55 has seen him play a bunch of times and thinks he can add value to this team.

But we're really diluting the label of "3 and D" guy if 36% on less than one make a game is qualifying these days. Seems more like an Andre Roberson type player (and I know Roberson is a few inches taller).
 
champs99and04 said:
I can appreciate that @Matrim55 has seen him play a bunch of times and thinks he can add value to this team.

But we're really diluting the label of "3 and D" guy if 36% on less than one make a game is qualifying these days. Seems more like an Andre Roberson type player (and I know Roberson is a few inches taller).
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Duvivier has the potential to contribute. He started with Payton in the back court in the NCAA game against VCU. The guy is no scrub. That year I had P12 Network and watched quite a bit of OSU. That team could really defend especially in the back court although I have no idea what their final ranking was. If it were me I would opt to go for players similar to the ones I posted. If we were to end up with this guy for one year I def can live with it. I would just like to see us expand our reach on a few prospects with some long term upside.
 
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BLUEDOGHOUSE said:
Duvivier has the potential to contribute. He started with Payton in the back court in the NCAA game against VCU. The guy is no scrub. That year I had P12 Network and watched quite a bit of OSU. That team could really defend especially in the back court although I have no idea what their final ranking was. If it were me I would opt to go for players similar to the ones I posted. If we were to end up with this guy for one year I def can live with it. I would just like to see us expand our reach on a few prospects with some long term upside.
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We need role players in the back court and a big man who we KNOW can play college hoops. I'd rather get a couple of guys like that than almost any of the '17 HS recruits we've been linked to.

We don't need a team of stars, and we don't need any more projects. We need to put guys around Jalen & Larrier (who will hopefully be 100%) who can rebound, run, defend and hit open shots in a D1 setting, and concentrate on getting high-level talents for the class of '18.
 
BLUEDOGHOUSE said:
Duvivier has the potential to contribute. He started with Payton in the back court in the NCAA game against VCU. The guy is no scrub. That year I had P12 Network and watched quite a bit of OSU. That team could really defend especially in the back court although I have no idea what their final ranking was. If it were me I would opt to go for players similar to the ones I posted. If we were to end up with this guy for one year I def can live with it. I would just like to see us expand our reach on a few prospects with some long term upside.
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I know it sounds obvious, but we need two way players. Nobody appreciates a guy who can defend his ass off like me, but to me with Duvivier - and again I'll yield to you and others who have seen him play more - there are a couple limiting factors, one being his size and the other being his offense. It sounds like, if he can guard 1-3, his size might not be that much of a problem. If you can force offenses to start 30 feet from the basket because of ball pressure, that's valuable, especially if we're starting a defensive liability at the five.

But it's really damn hard to win with a guard who can't do anything on offense, and this guy seems to be right on the cusp of that line. If you look at the roster now, Adams is a two way guy, Vital is a two way guy, Larrier can be, Gilbert...we'll see. Jackson and Enoch probably weren't going to be those guys, Durham might have been. Either way, we need more. Adams is probably good enough where we can get away with having one defense only guy on the court, but if you're gonna play Duvivier minutes and then play some freshman big minutes, you risk putting a cap on what could be a pretty dynamic group.

I'm fine bringing him on as a fifth guard. Given that we're going to be playing three guards most of the time, I'd prefer holding out for somebody better a the fourth guy. Clark from UMass is that guy to me right now - explosive scorer, big time free throw rate, size to guard wings, decent passer.
 
champs99and04 said:
I know it sounds obvious, but we need two way players. Nobody appreciates a guy who can defend his ass off like me, but to me with Duvivier - and again I'll yield to you and others who have seen him play more - there are a couple limiting factors, one being his size and the other being his offense. It sounds like, if he can guard 1-3, his size might not be that much of a problem. If you can force offenses to start 30 feet from the basket because of ball pressure, that's valuable, especially if we're starting a defensive liability at the five.

But it's really damn hard to win with a guard who can't do anything on offense, and this guy seems to be right on the cusp of that line. If you look at the roster now, Adams is a two way guy, Vital is a two way guy, Larrier can be, Gilbert...we'll see. Jackson and Enoch probably weren't going to be those guys, Durham might have been. Either way, we need more. Adams is probably good enough where we can get away with having one defense only guy on the court, but if you're gonna play Duvivier minutes and then play some freshman big minutes, you risk putting a cap on what could be a pretty dynamic group.

I'm fine bringing him on as a fifth guard. Given that we're going to be playing three guards most of the time, I'd prefer holding out for somebody better a the fourth guy. Clark from UMass is that guy to me right now - explosive scorer, big time free throw rate, size to guard wings, decent passer.
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Assuming there is a mutual interest at some point with DC and we navigate any team chemistry issues...which always makes me shake my head but is a reality in this culture (unless you are a Buzz Williams clone as a coach see Seth Allen/Zach LeDay coming off the bench this year as Seniors to promote the no player is bigger than the team concept) we still have some key pieces available to survive the transfer storm even if we miss out on some of the names posted as subject heading posts. It is going to be so interesting to see what unfolds with us and nationally over the next several weeks plus.
 
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