Gottlieb's big board

[Burnsbros23]

I just think when both r in, Boatright is the guy bring the ball up the court and making the first pass into the offense. Like I said in my first post Bazz is the better and more willing passer he just does it from the 2 guard spot.

James do u think Bazz is the better college player or better pro prospect or both?

 

[James]

Better college player, if he is healthy he could be a good 6/7 man in the league occasional stints at starting. But in college he looks just as talented as any other pg. shooting passing defense coachable

 

[Kitaman]

Bazz will get a look with some NBA teams, but still need to fight for a spot. Its risky, especially if the wrong team picks him (one with a plethora of guards). I don't think he's not good enough right now to get cut, and instantly make another roster in time for the season. Its like he'll get one shot.

However, with one more year of experience and some added offensive aggressiveness, along with one more year of Ollie tutelage, teams will be drooling for him. Especially as he gets pre/post season accolades and All American teams. I'm no expert, but I have seen quite a few Shabazz Napiers' declare one year too early, even here at UConn (e.g. Marcus and Khalid). He has the best counselor anyone can have on NBA readiness, which is his coach.

 

[willie99]

I'd love for Bazz to be a 1st round pick and get guaranteed money, but he's on nobody's draft board

he's not leaving this year. A great year next year, things change

as for Doug Gottnothing, he also said Bucknell would beat us in the first round of the NCAA tournament in 2011 because UConn would be "too tired". Then he said the same thing for the Cinn game, then he picked SDSU & AZ and UK too

he also said "Roscoe Smith should de-commit because the UConn program is falling apart at the seams" (Scoe won a NC)

he said Marcus Williams and AJ Price should transfer, good call on that one too

he's a journalistic criminal, a real life criminal and a complete buffoon. It's in his DNA

 

[James]

What is this "he's on nobody's draft board" talk ? Draft boards mean nothing usually past the top 3 picks. If somebody finds a gem that nobody is talking about, think they are going to go run to chad ford to start a hype machine? Anyway I'd love for him to come back next year to prove durability, it could also go the other way

 

[HuskyBballFan]

What is this "he's on nobody's draft board" talk ? Draft boards mean nothing usually past the top 3 picks. If somebody finds a gem that nobody is talking about, think they are going to go run to chad ford to start a hype machine? Anyway I'd love for him to come back next year to prove durability, it could also go the other way

There's no such thing as a "gem that nobody's talking about." It's 2013.

 

[James]

Gem is hyperbole I'm talking about picks in the 18-30 range that turn into all stars or consistent starters. Chad ford isn't finding those prospects. Yes that does happen. So it's hard to use these "analysts" as the backbone of an argument. ford was salivating at Rafael arujo as a top 3 pick for god sake.

 

[James]

"Oh he's not on any draft board , so he won't get/barely drafted.it won't be smart, he needs to stay"
"Crap he's our best player let me just assure myself he stays by crediting useless sources, ignoring another potential injury/stock drop next year; as long as we get close to some hardware"

 

[Bryan Lord]

This Is definitely a trap.

 

[Burnsbros23]

This draft is so bad, that if I'm Bazz I take a long look at going pro. Next year's draft has a lot of potential one and done talent. However I hope he stays.

 

[uconnbill]

Let's be honest here. The NBA Draft this year is weak and could be the best year for Bazz to go pro. I want him to stay another year as I believe UConn can be pretty special next year with him in school.

 

[Danzz]

Taking one for the program? Where was he going - the NBA or sit out?? What he does here does not necessarily translate to the next level......he has work to do. He's been terrific and maybe even more but this is no sure shot departure by any means. Rip, Ray, Caron, Donyell...........you taking him to those levels?

Add Kemba and Gordon to that list. Bazz may not be as attractive to NBA scouts as Marcus Williams or maybe even Hilton Armstrong for that matter. Ollie will get a feel from NBA scouts/relationships as to where Bazz would be drafted and hopefully the kid will make the best decision for his future.

 

[willie99]

"Oh he's not on any draft board , so he won't get/barely drafted.it won't be smart, he needs to stay"
"Crap he's our best player let me just assure myself he stays by crediting useless sources, ignoring another potential injury/stock drop next year; as long as we get close to some hardware"

wow, a strawman argument that makes most strawman arguments look strong

the proverbial throwing chit against the wall approach

 

[willie99]

did anyone here suggest Kemba should not go pro? Gay? Chaz? MSG? EO? CB? RIP? Ray Ray?.......................

damn, I even supported HT's decision once we knew he was going top 5

to suggest we all have some sort of selfish intent is childlike

Bazz is not there yet, plain and simple. All that spinning and dancing, bobbing and weaving just ain't changing that

but if he's going top 20, and if KO & JC tell him he's ready, then he's ready. I hope it happens for him

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

I'd love for Bazz to be a 1st round pick and get guaranteed money, but he's on nobody's draft board

he's not leaving this year. A great year next year, things change

as for Doug Gottnothing, he also said Bucknell would beat us in the first round of the NCAA tournament in 2011 because UConn would be "too tired". Then he said the same thing for the Cinn game, then he picked SDSU & AZ and UK too

he also said "Roscoe Smith should de-commit because the UConn program is falling apart at the seams" (Scoe won a NC)

he said Marcus Williams and AJ Price should transfer, good call on that one too

he's a journalistic criminal, a real life criminal and a complete buffoon. It's in his DNA

He said "if I'm Roscoe Smith, I'm maybe questioning my commitment."

That's it. He has dropped much bigger bombs on other programs. The fact that some of you actually think that Gottlieb sits around scheming on ways to stick it to UConn is more embarrassing than the AO obsession.

 

[James]

wow, a strawman argument that makes most strawman arguments look strong

the proverbial throwing chit against the wall approach

What the hell are you talking about? I'm not even arguing , I'm saying bazz is already regarded well enough to get drafted in either round. You don't think it's wise because he can come back and improve his stock? He should only leave if he's top 20? What interest is that serving? Have you SEEN the prospects in '14? his ceiling is end of lottery - beginning of 2nd round regardless.

 

[champs99and04]

did anyone here suggest Kemba should not go pro? Gay? Chaz? MSG? EO? CB? RIP? Ray Ray?.......................

damn, I even supported HT's decision once we knew he was going top 5

to suggest we all have some sort of selfish intent is childlike

Bazz is not there yet, plain and simple. All that spinning and dancing, bobbing and weaving just ain't changing that

but if he's going top 20, and if KO & JC tell him he's ready, then he's ready. I hope it happens for him

I don't disagree that you have no selfish intent, however, we all want him to return, so unconsciously, that is certainly going to make it difficult to form an unbiased opinion.

Personally, I think he should go. Leaving in the upcoming draft is his best chance to acquire financial security, and achieve his dream of making it in the NBA. It is a weak draft, Shabazz has had a phenominal season, and his athleticism and size aren't changing. His stock is likely as high as it will ever be.

 

[businesslawyer]

Someone forget to take his crazy pills today.

Top 5 most delusional posts I have seen on this board, and that is saying ALOT

If you have this post even in the top 50, is it safe to assume you are excluding anything from Huskyfandan?

 

[willie99]

He said "if I'm Roscoe Smith, I'm maybe questioning my commitment."

That's it. He has dropped much bigger bombs on other programs. The fact that some of you actually think that Gottlieb sits around scheming on ways to stick it to UConn is more embarrassing than the AO obsession.

everything I said he said he said. And while I did say he was a buffoon, I didn't say was that he's scheming for ways to stick it to UConn. I might suggest reading comprehension 101

love the AO reference too, something out of deep deep left field

 

[willie99]

What the hell are you talking about? I'm not even arguing , I'm saying bazz is already regarded well enough to get drafted in either round. You don't think it's wise because he can come back and improve his stock? He should only leave if he's top 20? What interest is that serving? Have you SEEN the prospects in '14? his ceiling is end of lottery - beginning of 2nd round regardless.

well then, that's that

Bazz should definitely leave because it's a sure thing he's going to be drafted higher in 2013 than 2014. how can I argue with that?

 

[Tenspro2002]

I'm not sure Bazz has much more room to grow in college. And if the difference between the 2013 and 2014 draft classes is the difference between a likely 1st round pick and a doubtful 1st round pick, he should go now.

Working in our favor (I'm assuming most of us want him to stay) are the facts that:
1) we're getting zero exposure this year, which puts a ceiling on his draft stock in 2013, and
2) he ducking loves it here and loves his coach, and I think he wants to have a big legacy at UConn

 

[willie99]

didn't Doug Gott-Nothing have Kemba at something like 16 or worse?

how can any one man be so wrong so often? and still keep his job?





did I read something about Bazz >> kemba in something? I don't have the stomach to go back and check for myself

and I do love Bazz, but this stuff is killing me here

 

[aceboon]

didn't Doug Gott-Nothing have Kemba at something like 16 or worse?

how can any one man be so wrong so often? and still keep his job?





did I read something about Bazz >> kemba in something? I don't have the stomach to go back and check for myself

and I do love Bazz, but this stuff is killing me here

I said Bazz>>Kemba in regards to vision, and I won't budge on that at all.

 

[willie99]

I don't disagree that you have no selfish intent, however, we all want him to return, so unconsciously, that is certainly going to make it difficult to form an unbiased opinion.

Personally, I think he should go. Leaving in the upcoming draft is his best chance to acquire financial security, and achieve his dream of making it in the NBA. It is a weak draft, Shabazz has had a phenominal season, and his athleticism and size aren't changing. His stock is likely as high as it will ever be.

good and smart people can and do disagree

I think he can improve his skill set and I believe he can improve his draft position

and if he is projected to be the 9th pick, that's a mighty big "if" IMHO, then he should go

 

[James]

good and smart people can and do disagree

I think he can improve his skill set and I believe he can improve his draft position

and if he is projected to be the 9th pick, that's a mighty big "if" IMHO, then he should go

What do you think of shabazz as prospect, like his best attributes? I think you and I disagree because I see bazz currently on a team of 'college' players (no other outstanding talent), And he still puts up great stats. his feel for the game is uncanny. The only thing is if he can gain mobility in his foot. But enough beating a dead horse, IMO his stock can't increase into the lottery.