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Gonazaga joins the Pac12

JohnFSilver said:
I think if Pac-12 takes UConn football, that would be amazing.

That conference is about what the AAC is, probably better since osu, wsu are there.

For all sports? That's a tough sell to the basketball fan. That's a lot of west coast games, which are brutal if you live in the eastern time zone.
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I would be shocked if it’s all sports. It doesn’t work. Travel, recruiting, money….

It’s FB only with maybe a scheduling agreement in other sports (bb most likely)…

I think there might be questions from PAC about full membership but for UConn it’s a hard no.
 
JohnFSilver said:
I think if Pac-12 takes UConn football, that would be amazing.

That conference is about what the AAC is, probably better since osu, wsu are there.

For all sports? That's a tough sell to the basketball fan. That's a lot of west coast games, which are brutal if you live in the eastern time zone.
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There might be some improvement in visibility and recruiting and a little more revenue for football.
 
JohnFSilver said:
I think if Pac-12 takes UConn football, that would be amazing.

That conference is about what the AAC is, probably better since osu, wsu are there.

For all sports? That's a tough sell to the basketball fan. That's a lot of west coast games, which are brutal if you live in the eastern time zone.
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I agree that for all sports I don’t see it working. Though one could argue that it is a superior basketball league to the New Big East, especially if Gonzaga were to sign up. But half your games across the country is a tall order.
 
upstater said:
Why are you linking the after the fact?

If the Board rejected it outright, the boosters and powerful alumni wouldn't have needed to travel to a Chalet in France to have it out with leadership.

You're missing what actually happened.

We all know Notre Dame ultimately rejected the invitation.

What I wrote is that the President, faculty, the AD and the BOT initially accepted it and were in favor of moving.
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augmented....the links documented your thoughts....I found nothing about "they agreed to join"...they were invirted...had pushback from students and, maybe, boosters,
 
uconnyankee said:
I would be shocked if it’s all sports. It doesn’t work. Travel, recruiting, money….

It’s FB only with maybe a scheduling agreement in other sports (bb most likely)…

I think there might be questions from PAC about full membership but for UConn it’s a hard no.
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It’s not being discussed for all sports.

We’re not paying a Big East exit fee for this.
 
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billybud said:
augmented....the links documented your thoughts....I found nothing about "they agreed to join"...they were invirted...had pushback from students and, maybe, boosters,
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The boosters and alumni group hashed it out at a chalet in France BECAUSE the BOT and Admin decided to join.

Good luck finding links because AI has destroyed Google.
 
freescooter said:
I agree that for all sports I don’t see it working. Though one could argue that it is a superior basketball league to the New Big East, especially if Gonzaga were to sign up. But half your games across the country is a tall order.
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Yes, I agree that moving all sports to the Bundesliga and or the the Pac 12 won't work. But you know what? It's not being discussed. So guess what?
 
Kolumbo said:
Creighton is probably perfectly happy in the Big East but if a combo of Gonzaga and Creighton went PAC or a trio of Gonzaga, St. Mary's and Creighton, that would leave the Big East in a pretty bad situation. Unlikely, yes. But a big risk nevertheless. The PAC is desperate and taking Gonzaga, St, Mary's and Creighton would give it 3 more NCAA tourney teams. Those basketball schools may think being part of a football conference is a better bet long term and the Big 12 may still be in the market too.
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Thank you for consistently viewing this through the lens of a basketball fan. It frees up everyone else to look at it through the lens of what actually has driven every past shake up and every future realignment decision.
 
Kolumbo said:
Creighton is probably perfectly happy in the Big East but if a combo of Gonzaga and Creighton went PAC or a trio of Gonzaga, St. Mary's and Creighton, that would leave the Big East in a pretty bad situation. Unlikely, yes. But a big risk nevertheless. The PAC is desperate and taking Gonzaga, St, Mary's and Creighton would give it 3 more NCAA tourney teams. Those basketball schools may think being part of a football conference is a better bet long term and the Big 12 may still be in the market too.
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They can add Grand Canyon and get Post to upgrade to FBS and give us a travel partner. This is also incredibly unlikely to happen.
 
Chin Diesel said:
Thank you for consistently viewing this through the lens of a basketball fan. It frees up everyone else to look at it through the lens of what actually has driven every past shake up and every future realignment decision.
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That's a pretty stupid comment. Of course we have to look at this through the lens of a basketball fan.
 
Do people really think the new PAC-whatever is going to be viewed as a power conference? It’s already being reported that it won’t. Joining all-sports is an insane concept. It would be like moving to the MWC all-sports. Just stop this nonsense.
 
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UConnTrumbull said:
Do people really think the new PAC-whatever is going to be viewed as a power conference? It’s already being reported that it won’t. Joining all-sports is an insane concept. It would be like moving to the MWC all-sports. Just stop this nonsense.
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Where are you getting joining in all-sports from? This would be for football only.
 
A lot of times a segment of the board is called delusional. Those proposing giving up four non-conference basketball slots as part of the deal, I don’t know how you would describe that line of thinking
 
Ha Who said:
A lot of times a segment of the board is called delusional. Those proposing giving up four non-conference basketball slots as part of the deal, I don’t know how you would describe that line of thinking
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Well there has to be a give and take. Offering what has been a putrid FB program on the other side of the country can't be worth much. 4 too many? How about 3? Presumably UConn would do this for higher revenue and potential access to the CFP. What do they get? Please don't say "early" games.
 
UConnTrumbull said:
Do people really think the new PAC-whatever is going to be viewed as a power conference? It’s already being reported that it won’t. Joining all-sports is an insane concept. It would be like moving to the MWC all-sports. Just stop this nonsense.
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The only people talking about all sports are you. It’s not on the table.
 
Ha Who said:
A lot of times a segment of the board is called delusional. Those proposing giving up four non-conference basketball slots as part of the deal, I don’t know how you would describe that line of thinking
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It’s a pretty good deal actually. I’d be surprised if it was that much though.
 
noeynox said:
Well there has to be a give and take. Offering what has been a putrid FB program on the other side of the country can't be worth much. 4 too many? How about 3? Presumably UConn would do this for higher revenue and potential access to the CFP. What do they get? Please don't say "early" games.
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I would say two games, one of them being an annual game with Gonzaga
 
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noeynox said:
Well there has to be a give and take. Offering what has been a putrid FB program on the other side of the country can't be worth much. 4 too many? How about 3? Presumably UConn would do this for higher revenue and potential access to the CFP. What do they get? Please don't say "early" games.
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Putrid yes, but whether in conference or out of conference, these teams seemed to think UConn was worth scheduling. In the past several years UConn has had games against the below MWC teams. I agree that throwing a few hoops games their way is worth it.

Boise State
Fresno State
Utah State
San Jose State
Wyoming
 
Kolumbo said:
Putrid yes, but whether in conference or out of conference, these teams seemed to think UConn was worth scheduling. In the past several years UConn has had games against the below MWC teams. I agree that throwing a few hoops games their way is worth it.

Boise State
Fresno State
Utah State
San Jose State
Wyoming
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Easy W over a "name brand".
 
Can we change name of thread. Didn’t Gonzaga and several other folks yell, “not so fast”?
 
uconnyankee said:
I would be shocked if it’s all sports. It doesn’t work. Travel, recruiting, money….

It’s FB only with maybe a scheduling agreement in other sports (bb most likely)…

I think there might be questions from PAC about full membership but for UConn it’s a hard no.
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Wouldn't mind seeing UNLV and SDSU on the basketball schedule
 
UConnTrumbull said:
Do people really think the new PAC-whatever is going to be viewed as a power conference? It’s already being reported that it won’t. Joining all-sports is an insane concept. It would be like moving to the MWC all-sports. Just stop this nonsense.
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Nobody is advocating that but let’s pretend they are so you can get all excited about stopping it. One article said it was discussed or explore which is very likely true.
 
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freescooter said:
Nobody is advocating that but let’s pretend they are so you can get all excited about stopping it. One article said it was discussed or explore which is very likely true.
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It probably went like this.
PAC: we want you for all sports.
DB: No but talking doesn’t hurt. How about football only?
PAC: No but talking doesn’t hurt.
 
freescooter said:
Nobody is advocating that but let’s pretend they are so you can get all excited about stopping it. One article said it was discussed or explore which is very likely true.
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Could we be in two “newbies”? Actually three if you count Newbie Hockey East
 
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