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Going to say this here…. Every loss is not some validation to kill the program.

With every game, I'm becoming more on-board with American FB-only, if they'll take us
 
I recall UMass being given the ultimatum to join in all sports in the MAC or ELSE. They chose Independence.
Are you saying if Temple had stayed the MAC would not have demanded it from both?
Correct. The issue was an odd number of football teams.
 
I recall UMass being given the ultimatum to join in all sports in the MAC or ELSE. They chose Independence.
Are you saying if Temple had stayed the MAC would not have demanded it from both?

You are correct. Shizzle was imagining things.
 
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Right now, I think the scheduling is fine. Getting a couple ACC schools at home, some winnable games and one or two ‘cupcakes’ isn’t horrible. Right now, UConn is underperforming, and we didn’t see the uptick from last year.

Playing Umass and BC also helps with regional rivalries. I hope those stay on the schedule more often than not
 
Right now, I think the scheduling is fine. Getting a couple ACC schools at home, some winnable games and one or two ‘cupcakes’ isn’t horrible. Right now, UConn is underperforming, and we didn’t see the uptick from last year.

Playing Umass and BC also helps with regional rivalries. I hope those stay on the schedule more often than not
We have to schedule Rutgers, that’s a key rival, and maybe even Villanova and Yale or another Ivy.
 
Not to mention, having to play all of their home games at what is essentially a neutral site. What do you think Geno and Calhoun would have said years ago if they were told that the HCC would be their home court for ALL home games? I don’t think people realize the advantages an on campus stadium (basketball or football) gives a program. Recruiting, intimidation to visiting teams, the student body can just walk to the games, and many more reasons. The sad thing is, if the Rent had had been built on campus, UConn would have received a P5 invite 15-20 years ago. There’s no telling what RE 1.0 could have done under those circumstances.
And roll the film here we go again
 
The only solution then is to shell out more money for the program, but I don’t see that happening anytime soon, unless Mora and Benedict go before the BOT.
Most tax payers think enough is enough. Maybe don't scrap the program but go down a rung and become relevant if no power conf invites within 5 years.
 
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Most tax payers think enough is enough. Maybe don't scrap the program but go down a rung and become relevant if no power conf invites within 5 years.
No programs “down a rung” are relevant*

*Excepting certain Big Sky programs (Montana, the Dakotas, where there is absolutely no other professional or major collegiate programs within hundreds of miles)
 
You dont speak for most taxpayers. Do you have a source for this?
Boy, the football bashers who feign football fandom, really do come out of the woodwork when you talk money for the program.
 
No programs “down a rung” are relevant*

*Excepting certain Big Sky programs (Montana, the Dakotas, where there is absolutely no other professional or major collegiate programs within hundreds of miles)
So UConn should go back to FCS, like Montana and the Dakotas?
 
Most tax payers think enough is enough. Maybe don't scrap the program but go down a rung and become relevant if no power conf invites within 5 years.
You mean "become irrelevant"
 
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Here's the reality:

1) UConn is not going to drop to FCS, period. Stop suggesting it as an option - it isn't happening, period.

2) There will not be an increase in PUBLIC funds for football. The well is dry and the ROI and public perception of dumping more CT tax/education money to compete with a Texas, Alabama, hell even a Maryland is just not there. There is no political or public interest in dumping more money in a football program. The state and university gets all the exposure it needs from basketball. That is the golden goose.

3) Unless UConn finds an T. Boon Pickens, or even an Harold Alfond, you are stuck with what you have. If you can't sell tickets for football, it is simply because there is no demand for the product. The demand that does exists is not insignificant, but you can't just wish for widespread support from on a scale big enough to compete. Starting a major program just 20 years ago, was too late. There are just too many factors you can't control, so try to accept what you have and you'll have a lot less stress about it
 
So UConn should go back to FCS, like Montana and the Dakotas?
Of course not. I was responding to and quoted someone who said UConn should go down a level to regain relevancy. As I said FCS schools are not relevant.

The schools in the asterisk section being the exception to that rule in their local region.
 
3) Unless UConn finds an T. Boon Pickens, or even an Harold Alfond, you are stuck with what you have. If you can't sell tickets for football, it is simply because there is no demand for the product. The demand that does exists is not insignificant, but you can't just wish for widespread support from on a scale big enough to compete. Starting a major program just 20 years ago, was too late. There are just too many factors you can't control, so try to accept what you have and you'll have a lot less stress about it
the problem for UConn is in the big picture of being academically important it is still a new school so you're not going to have that bevy of millionaires. Give it another 20 years though and I think some of that will be different.

edit: Alfond... just the name alone and that unholy rink named after him....
 
Read the athletics report. The university isn’t going to spend less on sports. Not happening.
 
the problem for UConn is in the big picture of being academically important it is still a new school so you're not going to have that bevy of millionaires. Give it another 20 years though and I think some of that will be different.

edit: Alfond... just the name alone and that unholy rink named after him....
'Bevy of millionaires'? UCONN's been around for over a century. If we don't have a sufficient stock of megawealthy donors by now it's not gonna happen.

And a million ain't enough anymore. If your sandbox is anything less than 100MM you're pretty much on the outs. And I'm only half kidding.

State needs to concern itself with becoming economically competitive first and that starts by dramatically slashing income and sales taxes and considering a cap on property taxes. IMO it's the only way. Yes, public services will suffer. But it's a lesser of two evils argument at this point.

I was driving by all that unused old factory space next to 95 outside Bridgeport yesterday and thought to myself, 'Gee what a logical place for an EV production line.' And then I remembered.
 
You dont speak for most taxpayers. Do you have a source for this?
Just my personal feeling. The program is an abysmal money pit. I think five more years is a very fair time frame for the school to fix the problem. Frankly, I don't think most tax payers care about the program.
 
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Just my personal feeling. The program is an abysmal money pit. I think five more years is a very fair time frame for the school to fix the problem. Frankly, I don't think most tax payers care about the program.
The Rent attendance the rest of the way will say a lot. The program just couldn't afford a start to the season like this. Needed to go 2-1.
 
'Bevy of millionaires'? UCONN's been around for over a century. If we don't have a sufficient stock of megawealthy donors by now it's not gonna happen.

And a million ain't enough anymore. If your sandbox is anything less than 100MM you're pretty much on the outs. And I'm only half kidding.

State needs to concern itself with becoming economically competitive first and that starts by dramatically slashing income and sales taxes and considering a cap on property taxes. IMO it's the only way. Yes, public services will suffer. But it's a lesser of two evils argument at this point.

I was driving by all that unused old factory space next to 95 outside Bridgeport yesterday and thought to myself, 'Gee what a logical place for an EV production line.' And then I remembered.
Oh rich. UConn has only been relevant academically for about the last 30-40 of those years. I'm sorry that it true. They're basically UDelaware otherwise. In terms of seriousness they've only been a thing since UConn 2000.

What I'm saying is we likely won't have megadonor money for NIL and the rest for another 20 years or so. I'm sorry that this is the case.

I know what UConn is. I had to consider that when I applied to graduate programs because program prestige and institutional prestige matter as is being relevant in the long term. Even those idiots at Rutgers have decades on us
 
Oh rich. UConn has only been relevant academically for about the last 30-40 of those years. I'm sorry that it true. They're basically UDelaware otherwise. In terms of seriousness they've only been a thing since UConn 2000.

What I'm saying is we likely won't have megadonor money for NIL and the rest for another 20 years or so. I'm sorry that this is the case.

I know what UConn is. I had to consider that when I applied to graduate programs because program prestige and institutional prestige matter as is being relevant in the long term. Even those idiots at Rutgers have decades on us
PREACH.
 

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