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Gillespie with a nasty knee injury

BigErnMcCracken said:
They're offensive fouls if the refs call them. This just sounds like rationalizing something when UConn players do it and complaining when a guy on another team does it.
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Can Bouk get away with it? Does anyone else get away with it? When 75% of your offensive game requires the ref to swallow their whistle. You aren’t that good. It’s Villanova NBE favor. And y’all drinking Kool Aid
 
AntG168 said:
Can Bouk get away with it? Does anyone else get away with it? When 75% of your offensive game requires the ref to swallow their whistle. You aren’t that good. It’s Villanova NBE favor. And y’all drinking Kool Aid
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Bouk doesn’t take his defender into the post like, ever.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
Bouk doesn’t take his defender into the post like, ever.
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Ok. Never mind, we can’t have an honest discussion. UConn gets called for touch fouls all gave long. Andre Jackson got called for an offensive foul using the famous Gillespie push off last night. But I digress.

I honestly hope he’s ok, I would rather beat nova with him
 
AntG168 said:
Ok. Never mind, we can’t have an honest discussion. UConn gets called for touch fouls all gave long. Andre Jackson got called for an offensive foul using the famous Gillespie push off last night. But I digress.

I honestly hope he’s ok, I would rather beat nova with him
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Well I guess I just didn’t understand your point. Bouk shoots 6 FT’s per game so he gets some calls. The fact that Gillespie gets away with them
isn’t on him, it’s on the refs if they are all actual push offs. You take advantage of everything you can.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
Well I guess I just didn’t understand your point. Bouk shoots 6 FT’s per game so he gets some calls. The fact that Gillespie gets away with them
isn’t on him, it’s on the refs if they are all actual push offs. You take advantage of everything you can.
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I’m not saying it’s his fault. He should continue to do it, he’d be insane not too. My point is he isn’t BE POTY good and he’s seen as the favorite to be that. Which is why I said he’s overrated. If Sanogo could get away with that he’d average 40. I respect the kid, get it how you get it. It doesn’t mean I can’t be honest
 
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BigErnMcCracken said:
They're offensive fouls if the refs call them. This just sounds like rationalizing something when UConn players do it and complaining when a guy on another team does it.
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They call them against others, not against him. He's lowering his shoulder to the chest, which I believe is an offensive foul by rule even if the defender doesn't have position. It's pretty egregious. Now shoulder to arm suggests he got by his man and that's a block.
 
HuskyHawk said:
They call them against others, not against him. He's lowering his shoulder to the chest, which I believe is an offensive foul by rule even if the defender doesn't have position. It's pretty egregious. Now shoulder to arm suggests he got by his man and that's a block.
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League-wide ref conspiracy? Please dish
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
When Bouk was out we acted as if the sky was falling, so double standards. It’s not being over sensitive it’s just not being respectful and at the same time discounting his abilities because we don’t like the way he plays.
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A) It's March.
B) I've quite honestly been surprised by how much caring and empathetic concern has been directed toward him.
 
BGesus4 said:
League-wide ref conspiracy? Please dish
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Lebron does it. Harden does it. Name guys get away with it. Jordan did it all the time.
Collin takes advantage of it because he can. He's a damned good player.
 
Are the refs the reason Gillespie has a 3:1 assist to turnover ratio and shoots 38% from 3 on 5.5 attempts/game?? I don't trust the basketball eyes of posters that can't see his talent. Dude is a gamer. I despise him, but that's the truth.
 
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AntG168 said:
Can Bouk get away with it? Does anyone else get away with it? When 75% of your offensive game requires the ref to swallow their whistle. You aren’t that good. It’s Villanova NBE favor. And y’all drinking Kool Aid
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You should think about what you're saying. You're saying that 75% of the offensive game of a kid that was a Big East player of the year candidate is the refs giving him calls and that he's not that good. It's not even worth debating it's so silly.
 
I watched the Nova game. I didn't see that much I found egregious. I saw two teams struggle offensively. Mostly because of the opposing D. I saw a Nova team that outmuscled our team down the stretch. It was a good lesson for us. Exposed a weakness of ours.
 
Good players at any level adjust their game to the refs on any given day.They go with the flow.. If they don't.They're on the bench in foul trouble or fouled out.

It's really quite simple. Nova PGs are coached on how to read the refs and how to use it to their advantage. Their coach also works the refs in subtle ways.
 
Question for those more knowledgeable than I...

There’s been chatter on here about how much the selection committee will factor Bouk’s injury into our tournament seed - the idea being that we may get a favorable bump because we were missing Bouk for 8 games, and now we have him back. So...does the reverse hold true for late season injuries like with Gillespie? Will Nova get dinged in seeding because the team going to the tourney is not the same team that got em there?

(This is, of course, assuming Gillespie is out. I’d love for him to recover and be able to play in the tourney. Rival or not, it’s really sad that he may have to miss March Madness again.)
 
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AntG168 said:
Can Bouk get away with it? Does anyone else get away with it? When 75% of your offensive game requires the ref to swallow their whistle. You aren’t that good. It’s Villanova NBE favor. And y’all drinking Kool Aid
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Bouk doesn't really play that way, but yes of course tons of players get away with it. Just like tons of players get away with everything sometimes, and nothing other times.

Come on man. You sound like a classic homer that just is bitter the kid is good. You think he's the ONLY player in the country that gets calls, and it's ALWAYS, and it's because the refs just like him and Nova and he's not actually very good? That's the take here?
 
Mr. French said:
Bouk doesn't really play that way, but yes of course tons of players get away with it. Just like tons of players get away with everything sometimes, and nothing other times.

Come on man. You sound like a classic homer that just is bitter the kid is good. You think he's the ONLY player in the country that gets calls, and it's ALWAYS, and it's because the refs just like him and Nova and he's not actually very good? That's the take here?
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He’s not BE POTY good. Period. End of Story. Name one other player in CBB or in the BE for that matter that gets away with it at the rate he does. Nobody. He’s ok, he a high division 1 basketball player. I’m not saying he’s garbage. But the way he’s talked about...I just don’t see it. Never have. And bitter that someone is good at basketball? lmaoo. Why don’t I feel that way about zegarowski, or mamu, or any of the other great BE players that are better than Gillespie?

Why can’t it just be that I don’t think he’s that good? He’s a system player, who to his praise takes advantage of the favorable calls. Y’all can be Gillespie fans, have at it. I’m just not
 
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AntG168 said:
He’s not BE POTY good. Period. End of Story. Name one other player in CBB or in the BE for that matter that gets away with it at the rate he does. Nobody. He’s ok, he a high division 1 basketball player. I’m not saying he’s garbage. But the way he’s talked about...I just don’t see it. Never have. And bitter that someone is good at basketball lmaoo. Why don’t I feel that way about zegarowski, or mamu, or any of the other great BE players that are better than Gillespie?
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I have no idea why. I just told you what you sound like, I can't speak to your motivations or why you dislike him. If it's strictly his game, fine, you don't think he's as good as others do ... but your arguments aren't exactly flawless.
 
Mr. French said:
I have no idea why. I just told you what you sound like, I can't speak to your motivations or why you dislike him. If it's strictly his game, fine, you don't think he's as good as others do ... but your arguments aren't exactly flawless.
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There’s no such thing as a “flawless” argument when it comes to opinion. None of you can deny that a major part of his game is getting away with offensive fouls lmao. That’s the elephant in the room that y’all continue to defend
 
ucawn said:
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Is this as bad as an ACL? I don’t think torn MCLs have been as common. Could be wrong. Those non contact injuries are always the worst
 
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I wouldn't be shocked if he returns next year, so we will be dealing with him again.
 
Doesn’t take a detective to figure out which coach used the word “brutal” in a text message to Jeff ... lol
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AntG168 said:
He's not dead, or stricken with a terminal illness. He's injured and we're discussing how his loss might impact or not impact his team. The boneyard has become incredibly sensitive. No one attacked the kid and almost everyone wished him the best
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Boneyard Sensitive? Nowhere do these ever share space
 
AntG168 said:
He’s not BE POTY good. Period. End of Story. Name one other player in CBB or in the BE for that matter that gets away with it at the rate he does. Nobody. He’s ok, he a high division 1 basketball player. I’m not saying he’s garbage. But the way he’s talked about...I just don’t see it. Never have. And bitter that someone is good at basketball? lmaoo. Why don’t I feel that way about zegarowski, or mamu, or any of the other great BE players that are better than Gillespie?

Why can’t it just be that I don’t think he’s that good? He’s a system player, who to his praise takes advantage of the favorable calls. Y’all can be Gillespie fans, have at it. I’m just not
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Mr. French said:
I have no idea why. I just told you what you sound like, I can't speak to your motivations or why you dislike him. If it's strictly his game, fine, you don't think he's as good as others do ... but your arguments aren't exactly flawless.
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Ok boys, maybe you aren't pals but "How about a Fresca?"
 
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