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Gilbert is a 4th year PG

superjohn said:
You blame it all on injuries and then the next sentence say you're not blaming it all on injuries. Yes, he's had tons of injuries, he's also been in the program for 4 years and has played in plenty of games. I would hope a freshman McDonald's all-American point guard would look a lot better and play with more IQ than Alterique is exhibiting in his final year.

Hurley expects him to play way better and I'm sure AG expects to play way better but he just looks lost. We can stop talking about him being the star we though he would he coming in but he has to play so much better than this.
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SJ, he's played in 38 total games in 4 years. Thirty eight. That's not plenty, it's one season's worth. He's been sitting on the shelf for most of that time. You don't get better doing that. In fact, you don't even stay the same. You get worse. Rust and rehab. It's not as if you're plugging in a high school senior AA and having him reboot like it's nothing.

If you asked, what's the main reason AG become a great player? The answer is injuries.
 
intlzncster said:
SJ, he's played in 38 total games in 4 years. Thirty eight. That's not plenty, it's one season's worth. He's been sitting on the shelf for most of that time. You don't get better doing that. In fact, you don't even stay the same. You get worse. Rust and rehab. It's not as if you're plugging in a high school senior AA and having him reboot like it's nothing.

If you asked, what's the main reason AG become a great player? The answer is injuries.
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Once the two freshman can play, you can sit AG and Vital down and coach them during games. We couldn’t sit AG down at all tonight. It is what it is. Kinda hard to knock a kid that had a couple of shoulder injuries while here and 3 all together. Play the freshmen
 
intlzncster said:
SJ, he's played in 38 total games in 4 years. Thirty eight. That's not plenty, it's one season's worth. He's been sitting on the shelf for most of that time. You don't get better doing that. In fact, you don't even stay the same. You get worse. Rust and rehab. It's not as if you're plugging in a high school senior AA and having him reboot like it's nothing.

If you asked, what's the main reason AG become a great player? The answer is injuries.
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The point is it's an overplayed excuse for him not playing with any IQ, not knowing when to pull up or get swallowed in the lane, not taking momentum killing bad shots, playing no D etc..

Hurley was hyping him up as first team all conference, he's a mess out there.
 
superjohn said:
The point is it's an overplayed excuse for him not playing with any IQ, not knowing when to pull up or get swallowed in the lane, not taking momentum killing bad shots, playing no D etc..

Hurley was hyping him up as first team all conference, he's a mess out there.
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He's a mess no doubt. He never picked up the college game. And as Horatio mentioned, he never had anybody good to study under. All our great PGs did. Only guy who didn't was Taliek and it nearly killed him.

What's Hurley supposed to do, bash the kid in the offseason?
 
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superjohn said:
The point is it's an overplayed excuse for him not playing with any IQ, not knowing when to pull up or get swallowed in the lane, not taking momentum killing bad shots, playing no D etc..

Hurley was hyping him up as first team all conference, he's a mess out there.
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He’s been incredibly bad. I still do hold out hope that he figures something out sooner than later. The kid is talented. We don’t need him to be great in order for us to take a step foward this yr. We just need him to be a steady leader. I believe he can figure it out
 
Horatio said:
Once the two freshman can play, you can sit AG and Vital down and coach them during games. We couldn’t sit AG down at all tonight. It is what it is. Kinda hard to knock a kid that had a couple of shoulder injuries while here and 3 all together. Play the freshmen
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You're not wrong Horatio, I just think it's too late for that. jmo tho

It would absolutely help with Vital. He got us out of the game in the 1st half. Got us back into the game in the second. And then got us right out of the game at the end. (not all him mind you)
 
I unfortunately don’t. I can’t recall him ever being a great floor general. He’s a streaky shooter and from reports great guy in the locker room.

When has he consistently made others around him better? Throw lobs to anyone? Consistently drive and dish. Thread a pass from a pick and roll? Hit a long outlet pass for a transition lay up?

He was a great scoring combo guard in high school who we hoped could be a good point guard for us.

We were wrong.
 
intlzncster said:
You're not wrong Horatio, I just think it's too late for that. jmo tho

It would absolutely help with Vital. He got us out of the game in the 1st half. Got us back into the game in the second. And then got us right out of the game at the end. (not all him mind you)
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Exactly. So you yank both of them as soon as you see bad play and put in a freshman. It’s necessary.
 
To back intlzncster's take here, I'd point to Ricky Moore's freshman year. People here called him Rickety Moore. What Ricky Moore was recruited to do on the court and what he eventually did on the court are 2 different things. He missed time, his opportunity changed and he morphed into a defensive specialist letting the offense flow through everyone else.

Antrique is just really the same player he was when he got here. You just watch and hold your breath that he's not hurt when there's contact.
 
Make a layup Gilbert for God's sake or learn to dish back out. His lack of height is hurting his passing, defense and shooting. St Joe's could easily reach in and knock the ball loose when he went inside. I hope Bouk can add some range to our guard position. We really seem to have no point guard.
 
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UConn vs St. Joe's:

Offense: Kevin Ollie 2.0. Perimeter........perimeter.......perimeter......perimeter........shoot.

Defense: Play with my hands (I want to steal the ball, slam the dunk, impress the scouts/crowd), not with my feet for the benefit of the team.

Defensive Rebounding: Turn around and reach. Box out, what is that?

Offensive Rebounding: Climb over the guy who is (correctly) boxing me out (risking a foul)? No, spin, and go to where the ball is likely to be (75% of missed shots deflect off the rim to the opposite side of the shooter)? Offensive rebounding takes anticipation, discipline and a rudimentary knowledge of geometry/physics. Too difficult for our coaches/players to embrace?

Big Guys: UConn coaching staff has for innumerable years been woeful in improving big guys throughout their four year careers; Corny Thompson being the unfortunate poster boy, but Thabeet and Brimah belong on the same poster. Don't counter with Drummond. He was here for only one year. Or Okafor, who was a stud the day he arrived.

Hurley has to walk the walk, not talk the talk. This is an undisciplined, fundamentally unsound, selfish team.
 
Alterique is garbage. Can’t wait for him to be gone. I’ve never seen someone airball 2 layups before
 
CV is fine. I’d start him at 2nd guard any day of the week. If he had even a mediocre PG to play alongside he’d be that much more effective. AG is the problem. He really can’t shoot, pass or doesn’t even play solid D. 38 games over 4 years is more than enough time to improve your game if capable of doing so. Unfortunately there’s little to no evidence from those 38 games that AG will ever be a passable PG. Hopefully Gaffney will show PG skills but taking a wait and see approach on him. If he doesn’t pan out this season is on the brink.
 
This game epitomized two pre-season comments that were offered more than few times.

1) If Vital is our top scorer, then it means we're not very good.

2) If Gilbert doesn't play like the McDonald's AA we recruited, then it's going to be a long season.

Therefore, if tonight's game wasn't a fluke or doesn't get corrected, what's the point in getting as upset as many here are? This was predicted.

Then again, so far, only 1 of the 5 newcomers has played to capacity. Only 2 more of the 5 will be available, and they both start somewhat in the hole. It's early in the season

Fall recruiting has been successful in meeting identified needs with two well-regarded and well-targeted players who chose UConn over worthy P5 competition. The pending conference change has been increasingly mentioned as helpful in attracting prospective player interest.

Remember: Year two of a rebuild. Let it build.

Support the team. Be grateful for what is and accept what isn't, especially if you think it can't be changed. Otherwise you're doomed to being right & unhappy.
 
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UConnJim said:
And he didn’t lead the team tonight. Bad shots, bad turnovers, didn’t make the team better. Terrible at the end of the game.
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Just a vastly overrated point guard even considering the injuries. Can he stop driving in and leaving points trying to get weak shots over much bigger guys. He is a small guard who plays small. He isn’t Ryan Boatright going strong to the basket in there for layups as he is his game is too weak for that.
 
Candyman34 said:
Hurley’s offense sets were not there. Hero ball and no one moving without the ball.
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Yep that killed any hope of a comeback. Embarrassing as he was expecting his shot to get blocked. Can’t he just pass the ball and hit the open outside shots.
 
T-Squared said:
Gilbert can penetrate at will, but he cannot finish. He’s too short and doesn’t have any hops to compensate. That’s been his MO since day 1, and it will not change. Such an over-rated player. Hoping Danny can recruit better PGs.
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He was a constant finalist in the McDonald’s slam dunk contests. I think he was a runner up to some elite highflying guy in the league. He’s got hops. But man. Every player had a brutal shot today. Every single guy. Sans aa
 
Rico444 said:
I hope Hurley mixes in a lot of Gaffney when he's healthy, because Gilbert is gone after this year and he's not leading us to the NCAAs so what's the point of playing him significant minutes?
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where’s he going?
 
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Glad I rejected the Extortion "seat Donation" and ceased season ticket purchases for the 1st time in 37 years. I'll be buying them on Stubhub for $5. Hurley is an unmitigated disaster, and yes, I'm a Keep KO guy. I bleed Blue, like KO. Improvement???? NOT
 
He's played 36 games in 4 years. So he may be four years in, but he has the experience of a soph. It's pretty sad that we have had 6-ish years of Jalen and Gilbert; two of the highest rated guards this program has ever brought in, and their careers have been highly forgettable and coincide with the worst five year run in my UConn lifetime.

I will say, though, that Hurley's offense is certainly not helping. We're putting up points. But our sets involve one person pounding, one person trying to get open, and three people watching it all go down. I'd give my left nut to see us ever (and this includes KO and many of JCs years) run some nice half-court offense that wasn't completely dependent on having superior talent. More than one person is allowed to move at one time, you know.
 
MervthePurvis said:
He was a constant finalist in the McDonald’s slam dunk contests. I think he was a runner up to some elite highflying guy in the league. He’s got hops. But man. Every player had a brutal shot today. Every single guy. Sans aa
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And that doesn’t translate one bit to being an effective point guard in a 5-on-5 environment. The next layup he makes in traffic will be his first this season.
 
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Chief00 said:
I agre
Orioles said:
Glad I rejected the Extortion "seat Donation" and ceased season ticket purchases for the 1st time in 37 years. I'll be buying them on Stubhub for $5. Hurley is an unmitigated disaster, and yes, I'm a Keep KO guy. I bleed Blue, like KO. Improvement???? NOT
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Can you give one reason why We should have even considered “Keep KO”
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