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Giants next head coach?

CCSUblue said:
If Rhule comes in I think Gettleman is gone.
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Opposite. Rhule loves Gettleman. It makes me reconsider wanting Rhule.

Gettleman is a useless genius.
 
NJHusky said:
His college drafts have some potential IMO..way better than Reese. But his free agent signings have been an abject failure...not to mention his arrogance while winning nothing and being allowed by Mara to hide from the media...I wasn't a Reese fan but at least he had the balls to deal with the press
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His entire 2018 draft class regressed this year!
 
zls44 said:
Opposite. Rhule loves Gettleman. It makes me reconsider wanting Rhule.

Gettleman is a useless genius.
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I was unaware.

All I've heard is that Rhule wants complete control over who's on his roster. Not having a GM give him players he doesn't want and has to make work.

But who knows, maybe if he has an already established relationship with DG from 2012 then they can make it work and MR can have his say on who DG targets.

As long as they don't get McDaniels. That scummy move he pulled in Indy still tastes bad.
 
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methodology said:
I think shurmur is better than he showed. He came into a bad situation and didn't have the offensive line or personnel to do what he wanted
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Basically Belichek in Cleveland 2.0

All Shurmur needs is the next Tom Brady and he'll do just fine.
 
methodology said:
I think shurmur is better than he showed. He came into a bad situation and didn't have the offensive line or personnel to do what he wanted
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I think he's awful, couldn't stand him from day 1.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
Not amazing at all. The Mara family are among the most gutless in sports when it comes to doing what's comfortable instead of what's necessary. They value loyalty, continuity, and a conservative approach over innovation.
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Such as 25 year rebuilding programs.
 
auror said:
Shurmur also failed in Cleveland, so...
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Everyone fails in Cleveland

Have to imagine urban meyer is a top choice for them. I'd like to see what he could do in the nfl
 
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jojipoji said:
What the hell is wrong with you? They have 4 titles. Black qb? Has nothing to do with it.
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They actually ended the streak to play a black QB. My ethnicity qualifies as a "minority", for what it's worth. The Giants never had a starting black QB before Geno. Look it up. You guys are upset at me for this? Really?
 
Chin Diesel said:
Took Snyder a decade to realize your coaching options can be limited by the front office above them.

Me thinks until Gettleman can prove he's competent, they Gints are stuck with second tier choices.
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To which " Snyder" do you refer?

The one in Washington has owned the franchise for twice that long and still hasn't learned.
 
Butch said:
They actually ended the streak to play a black QB. My ethnicity qualifies as a "minority", for what it's worth. The Giants never had a starting black QB before Geno. Look it up. You guys are upset at me for this? Really?
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Just a little frustration from everyone, we've all been struggling to find Geno Davis's stats in his start
 
auror said:
So you're not even letting the GM hire the coach then? What's the point of having a GM in that case.
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I'm only saying what some pundits on Twitter said. And I think yes, when your GM hasn't been good and you are hiring a coach, you want alignment between GM and coach.
 
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Butch said:
They actually ended the streak to play a black QB. My ethnicity qualifies as a "minority", for what it's worth. The Giants never had a starting black QB before Geno. Look it up. You guys are upset at me for this? Really?
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How about they get a GOOD QB and less emphasis on black or white - just the best player.
 
Giants need to clean house in the entire front office, ownership on down. It has been this way longer than I like to recall. We'll have staff woes no matter what until this changes if you ask me. I am not sure how Gettleman survived(es) this.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I'm only saying what some pundits on Twitter said. And I think yes, when your GM hasn't been good and you are hiring a coach, you want alignment between GM and coach.
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Yeah understood, I meant the royal You all.

You normally get alignment by letting the GM pick the coach, and it's the single biggest decision a GM makes. Seems strange to not get any GM involvement in the coach picking process, and instead have a coach have say in your GM hiring/firing process.

It shows a fundamental problem in the organizational culture.
 
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auror said:
Yeah understood, I meant the royal You all.

You normally get alignment by letting the GM pick the coach, and it's the single biggest decision a GM makes. Seems strange to not get any GM involvement in the coach picking process, and instead have a coach have say in your GM hiring/firing process.

It shows a fundamental problem in the organizational culture.
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I get that, but the coaches want the Belichick deal if they can swing it. So if the coach is a hot name like Rhule or McDaniels, and his vision doesn't fit with the GM, you need to choose. And you might just choose the coach. Everybody thinks Caserio will head to Houston from New England to be with Bill O'Brien, but could he also be a package deal with McDaniels?
 
HuskyHawk said:
I get that, but the coaches want the Belichick deal if they can swing it. So if the coach is a hot name like Rhule or McDaniels, and his vision doesn't fit with the GM, you need to choose. And you might just choose the coach. Everybody thinks Caserio will head to Houston from New England to be with Bill O'Brien, but could he also be a package deal with McDaniels?
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I'm not confident a guy like Rhule would be ready to put together an NFL roster after being out of the league for a while.
 
mustafa said:
How about they get a GOOD QB and less emphasis on black or white - just the best player.
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Welcome to a politically correct society. The Giants are the last franchise to start a black QB.
 
Butch said:
Welcome to a politically correct society. The Giants are the last franchise to start a black QB.
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I think you are getting push back because your point was off topic and it's unclear what you were trying to say. The Giants took so long to start a black QB because the culture is conservative? Is that it?

There is a lot of talk about Rhule and his NFL background. I didn't realize he spent 1 year coaching in the NFL and 19 years coaching in college. He has coached both sides of the ball but never has had great offense as far as I know. His biggest attribute seems that he is a culture/discipline coach, right? I am lukewarm but it is so hard to tell what will work.
 
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