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pap49cba said:
This is b.s. I REALLY hope the name is leaked at some point.
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Agreed. UConn is accused of cheating once again. Eventually that's just going to be our reputation.
 
Anyone who didn't see this coming is naive. It was my reaction on hearing of Geno's call. Not because the call was out of order or inappropriate but because of folks who always desire to bring down the King. What the complaint really shows is that many coaches don't know the rules and a complaint against them for an unprepared compliance department is warranted.
 
DavidinNaples said:
If it was an AAC school, my guess is Geno finds out and someone gets spanked by 80....:cool: Full court press for 40 minutes, Stewie and MoJeff both dunk..!!
Geno is from Philly, someone will "sleep w/ the fishes." :rolleyes:
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Geno will find out. Small world. Other coaches will not want to be a part of this crap. Wait till the season gets running. We will all be aware and watch the blowback on the court. :D
 
HoopsFan21 said:
Agreed. UConn is accused of cheating once again. Eventually that's just going to be our reputation.
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My thought is that, like the Tennessee complaint(s), the only reputation diminished is that of the complainer when the complaint cannot be sustained...in this instance, where the "violation" was committed on a national stage for all to see, the complainer not only seems small, but rather pitiable, as well...
 
Icebear said:
Anyone who didn't see this coming is naive. It was my reaction on hearing of Geno's call. Not because the call was out of order or inappropriate but because of folks who always desire to bring down the King. What the complaint really shows is that many coaches don't know the rules and a complaint against them for an unprepared compliance department is warranted.
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Call me naive then. My worry now is that the complaint is quietly dropped in a few months after the NCAA or conference gets around to investigating it, but all anyone remembers is UConn was accused of cheating - again - and where there's smoke there's fire even if you can't yet see the flames.
 
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Couple of thoughts:
1. The NCAA does not have the resources to police its member institutions so it depends on a) self reporting, b) complaints filed by others members, and c) investigative journalism to bring issues to light. This to a large degree depends on the 'snitch' response and a certain amount of anonymity is helpful.
2. I wasn't that surprised that it was reported - the rule book is pretty extensive and there are a fair number of gray areas. Someone calling and saying 'this didn't smell quite right' isn't that big a deal. I certainly wondered myself if it was completely within the rules. It sort of reminds me of that photo that appeared of Pat and a recruit for three or four years ago.

I just don't get that bent out of shape on this one. I would rather have the question asked and answered than have a innuendo hanging out there.
 
JohnA: A source has told him that it was NOT Duke, ND, nor MD.
 
Certainly no rules broken, but I think common sense should have dictated that Geno stay away from talking to Mo'ne , just to avoid the appearance of impropriety. Too bad it has to be that way, but that's the way the world is these days.
 
OneTrickPony said:
My thought is that, like the Tennessee complaint(s), the only reputation diminished is that of the complainer when the complaint cannot be sustained...in this instance, where the "violation" was committed on a national stage for all to see, the complainer not only seems small, but rather pitiable, as well...
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In her interview on this incident on ESPN Michele Voepel said the world of college recruiting is filled with such pettiness and she doubts anything will come of this report which seems "out there"...."but you never know with the NCAA."
 
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boontonbomber said:
Certainly no rules broken, but I think common sense should have dictated that Geno stay away from talking to Mo'ne , just to avoid the appearance of impropriety. Too bad it has to be that way, but that's the way the world is these days.
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I disagree. I like how it's being handled. Make a joke out of the people/institution making the complaint. Too much stupidity in the world today anyway. Need to point it out. Need Engvall's sign.
 
RockyMTblue2 said:
In her interview on this incident on ESPN Michele Voepel said the world of college recruiting is filled with such pettiness and she doubts anything will come of this report which seems "out there"...."but you never know with the NCAA."
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Ha...I listened to that one and was hoping the reporter would ask the obvious follow up question...to wit, "Is this an example of pettiness?"
 
boontonbomber said:
Certainly no rules broken, but I think common sense should have dictated that Geno stay away from talking to Mo'ne , just to avoid the appearance of impropriety. Too bad it has to be that way, but that's the way the world is these days.
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And that's the way the world will be tomorrow and the next day and the next... and the ... if folks acquiesce to 'the way the world is these days.' We are not merely passengers in life, we can choose to steer the boat in any of the many better directions.

Boo
 
boontonbomber said:
Certainly no rules broken, but I think common sense should have dictated that Geno stay away from talking to Mo'ne , just to avoid the appearance of impropriety. Too bad it has to be that way, but that's the way the world is these days.
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Why should Geno change because some jealous coach sees his kind gesture to a young kid as an impropriety. He knows he did nothing wrong and that's all that relly matters.
I'll bet that because of this more people will take his side than not. If Geno only said and did things to avoid scrutany , he wouldn't be Geno.
 
Though I certainly understand what BOON had to say about how the world is today, I am particularly delighted to see how MYERS and BOO responded. I've never been one to knuckle under to the "prevailing winds" of the moment or the times; in fact, an explicit cornerstone of my rearing was to think for yourself and not just go with the majority flow. A big time tip of the cap to Myers and Boo for weighing in as they did on this important societal issue.
 
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intlzncster said:
Orange in this case...
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Well, if you've got a record, and your MO ("anonymous" complaint) matches a current case, and you arguably had motive and opportunity, and other obvious suspects have been ruled out, you shouldn't be surprised if you become a "person of interest."

That said, though I made an indirect quip a while ago, I really doubt it was TN.

Reasons:

1. Once burned, twice shy. Even creatures of low cognitive function can remember the feel of a hot stove. The last time around didn't help their program any. Nobody likes a snitch, particularly a snitch with an agenda who snitches incompetently and ends up somewhere between reduced in stature and ridiculed.

2. Even if so inclined, the TN staff would never, ever, take another flyer without making damned sure they've got the goods -- which in this case means taking more than a glance at one paragraph of the rules.

3. Ms. Warlick wants to play UConn. For now she's hung up on Geno's demand for war reparations. Why on earth would she double down on the problem, let alone do it negligently? The name of the complaining school will leak of course. And if that school wanted to remain anonymous before, its desire for anonymity will be multiplied when its complaint turns out to be not only petty but an embarrassing blunder.

4. Last but in no way least I really think Ms. Warlick knows that the way ahead for her lies in making her own team better, not in trying to tear down Geno.
 
She already has her mind made up...it's Uconn.....So why would Geno need to cheat?
 
phil sampieri said:
Why should Geno change because some jealous coach sees his kind gesture to a young kid as an impropriety. He knows he did nothing wrong and that's all that relly matters.
I'll bet that because of this more people will take his side than not. If Geno only said and did things to avoid scrutany , he wouldn't be Geno.
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If you noted in the original postings, it appears Geno wanted to stay away from talking to her. If one assumes he is the nice guy reported "off stage" then I'm sure his reason was to avoid what happened, because - like Icebear - that was my original thought "what dodo school is going to gripe".

As to conference mates - Seton Hall authored "hug gate" against Rutgers when Essence Carson's Mom ran on the Seton Hall floor and hugged Vivian (who was trying to avoid her) at a RU/SHU game during a "non-contact" recruiting period. And yes, it was deemed a violation, although I don't think any major penalty ensued.
 
TDiNozzo said:
She already has her mind made up...it's Uconn.....So why would Geno need to cheat?
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Chances are she will never even end up at UConn or playing Division 1 basketball for that matter.
 
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JS said:
Well, if you've got a record, and your MO ("anonymous" complaint) matches a current case, and you arguably had motive and opportunity, and other obvious suspects have been ruled out, you shouldn't be surprised if you become a "person of interest."

That said, though I made an indirect quip a while ago, I really doubt it was TN.

Reasons:

1. Once burned, twice shy. Even creatures of low cognitive function can remember the feel of a hot stove. The last time around didn't help their program any. Nobody likes a snitch, particularly a snitch with an agenda who snitches incompetently and ends up somewhere between reduced in stature and ridiculed.

2. Even if so inclined, the TN staff would never, ever, take another flyer without making damned sure they've got the goods -- which in this case means taking more than a glance at one paragraph of the rules.

3. Ms. Warlick wants to play UConn. For now she's hung up on Geno's demand for war reparations. Why on earth would she double down on the problem, let alone do it negligently? The name of the complaining school will leak of course. And if that school wanted to remain anonymous before, its desire for anonymity will be multiplied when its complaint turns out to be not only petty but an embarrassing blunder.

4. Last but in no way least I really think Ms. Warlick knows that the way ahead for her lies in making her own team better, not in trying to tear down Geno.
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Im SO glad I went back and actually read the comments before I posted because you pretty much hit the nail on the head on everything I was going to address as in why its doubtful Tenn and Warlick did this. And the joke about Pat maybe making the complaint was tasteless.

No telling what school made the complaint....as much as we know right now it could be the University of Pennsylvania (random) lol but you you get my point. Hopefully we'll end up finding out who made these allegations. IMO it was very petty!!!
 
JS said:
Well, if you've got a record, and your MO ("anonymous" complaint) matches a current case, and you arguably had motive and opportunity, and other obvious suspects have been ruled out, you shouldn't be surprised if you become a "person of interest."

That said, though I made an indirect quip a while ago, I really doubt it was TN.

Reasons:

1. Once burned, twice shy. Even creatures of low cognitive function can remember the feel of a hot stove. The last time around didn't help their program any. Nobody likes a snitch, particularly a snitch with an agenda who snitches incompetently and ends up somewhere between reduced in stature and ridiculed.

2. Even if so inclined, the TN staff would never, ever, take another flyer without making damned sure they've got the goods -- which in this case means taking more than a glance at one paragraph of the rules.

3. Ms. Warlick wants to play UConn. For now she's hung up on Geno's demand for war reparations. Why on earth would she double down on the problem, let alone do it negligently? The name of the complaining school will leak of course. And if that school wanted to remain anonymous before, its desire for anonymity will be multiplied when its complaint turns out to be not only petty but an embarrassing blunder.

4. Last but in no way least I really think Ms. Warlick knows that the way ahead for her lies in making her own team better, not in trying to tear down Geno.
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Definitely don't think it was Warlick. I wouldn't put it past that AD though. Certifiably insane.
 
sawxfan23 said:
Chances are she will never even end up at UConn or playing Division 1 basketball for that matter.
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And then again, the SI article quotes her school coaches as saying she is a better basketball player than a baseball player, and she is head and shoulders above the boys her age she plays against. So, time will tell, but I wouldn't count out a young girl as motivated as she is. Best of luck to her and I hope we see her in the future!
 
can we lodge the complaint ourselves anonymously? :) we seem to be the only team that would benefit from this story. Seriously what school was dumb enough to think this would make UCONN look anything but kind. The school that filed the protest is the one risking looking bad if the truth gets out. What will they actually stand to gain from this stupidity?
 
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