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Geno's Successor?

OK, your the AD. What are the top qualifications you would be looking for? some thoughts:

1. best recruiter available with great name recognition
2. top motivator
3. mega hoops knowledge
4. proven track record
5. connection to UCONN
 
I know you have someone else in mind. Don't be so polite, tell us. The Uconn ego is so big (read the Thread again) that you have already stepped on it by holding out. No no. I'm not thinking of that person, but the younger one. Pair her up (again) with Lobo, and you would be 'the talk of the town.' Why resist that!
 
Just a thought.......I wonder how closely Shea’s practices will mirror Geno’s? 😳
Geno invites other coaches to watch his program all the time. It’s one thing to know what he does and another to reproduce it. If Shea can do that she should be the number one choice for his replacement.
 
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The question is how can Uconn continue its dominance when the master retires? The answer is it may not, at least not right away. When the top recruits are asked why they chose Uconn to begin their college careers, they state two reasons. One, its Uconn, the school they have grown up watching, the school that always wins. Two, its Geno, the HOF coach that will make them future WNBA players. Which carries more weight? I suspect that these players would follow Geno if he opted to coach at another school, but would they still go to Uconn if the same were true? Uconn is Geno, but Geno is only Uconn if he is there.
If recruits want to continue to flock to Uconn there has to be a coach that they will identify with winning, and I don't believe there is a big time coach that would take on that pressure cold turkey. The coach that takes over should already be on the staff, someone who the players are familiar with, who they already trust can help coach them to their aspirations. Geno must put them in the spotlight, make them appear more than an assistant coach. They have to be recognized as a top coach themselves, and possibly identified early on as his successor in the future when he does hang it up. Cold turkey won't work, the transition has to be gradual. Just because the new coach may be already on the staff, doesn't mean we will repeat Tennessees mistake. We trust Genos judgement, and with his grooming the transition can be smooth and successful.
As far as Dawn, her teams aren't close to Uconns style or values, so don't make me laugh, or even worse, scare me.
 
Boneyard discussions about potential successors to Geno have focussed upon former Uconn players who have successfully transitioned to coaching. And I wonder: why the emphasis on former Uconn players? The Uconn brand is akin the that of the Steinbrenner Yankees. Geno's successor should be the best coach in WCBB period. In my view, that is Dawn Staley. She has worked with Geno on the national team, she has won a national title, she has the ability to recruit top notch players, and she is 51. She is a graduate of UVA so query whether her loyalty to South Carolina is complete. Sure it would cost - USC compensates Staley very well. But Uconn is the historical Top Dog. When Geno decides to retire, Dawn Staley should be his successor.
PLEASE, No Dawn Staley.
 
The question is how can Uconn continue its dominance when the master retires? The answer is it may not, at least not right away. When the top recruits are asked why they chose Uconn to begin their college careers, they state two reasons. One, its Uconn, the school they have grown up watching, the school that always wins. Two, its Geno, the HOF coach that will make them future WNBA players. Which carries more weight? I suspect that these players would follow Geno if he opted to coach at another school, but would they still go to Uconn if the same were true? Uconn is Geno, but Geno is only Uconn if he is there.
If recruits want to continue to flock to Uconn there has to be a coach that they will identify with winning, and I don't believe there is a big time coach that would take on that pressure cold turkey. The coach that takes over should already be on the staff, someone who the players are familiar with, who they already trust can help coach them to their aspirations. Geno must put them in the spotlight, make them appear more than an assistant coach. They have to be recognized as a top coach themselves, and possibly identified early on as his successor in the future when he does hang it up. Cold turkey won't work, the transition has to be gradual. Just because the new coach may be already on the staff, doesn't mean we will repeat Tennessees mistake. We trust Genos judgement, and with his grooming the transition can be smooth and successful.
As far as Dawn, her teams aren't close to Uconns style or values, so don't make me laugh, or even worse, scare me.
Well said Bald Huskie, well said! 😉
 
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PLEASE, No Dawn Staley.
I actually like Dawn and wish her well except when we play them, but I don’t want to see her succeed Geno anymore than I would Kim Mulkey or Tara VanDerveer. We can take care of our own house. We don’t need an outside housekeeper to come in.

As mentioned, Tennessee has displayed for us in “vivid” HD color, what can happen to an elite program (a rapid decay, player defections, falling completely out of the top 25) if you choose the wrong person to succeed a legend. Learn from the mistakes of others.
 
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Just a thought.......I wonder how closely Shea’s practices will mirror Geno’s? 😳
I have been wondering about this as well. Even if her practices mirror Geno's the big question to me, do the players react to her the same way they do to Geno? I find it hard to think so. Many coaches have come to observe and learn at the masters practices. None have been able to get the same results over the long haul.
 
Geno invites other coaches to watch his program all the time. It’s one thing to know what he does and another to reproduce it. If Shea can do that camera she should be the number one choice for his replacement.
Sorry posted after reading Carnac's post before seeing your post. Obviously I endorse your ideas, can't believe how bright you are.:rolleyes:
 
Sorry posted after reading Carnac's post before seeing your post. Obviously I endorse your ideas, can't believe how bright you are.:rolleyes:
Thank You Too Back At Ya GIF by AdHawk
 
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Nothing (absolutely nothing) in your careful summary of Dawn’s accomplishments holds water. And, at the risk of sounding offensive, I suggest you don’t really know UConn at all. We practice til we can’t get it wrong and we don’t recruit dopes. We are UConn...pretty sure you’re not.
Right. A season ticket holder for over 20 years. I was in New Orleans in 2004. But what do I know about UConn? Did I at least get Dawn Staley’s age right?
 
You should get involved, since UConn’s best move will be to pilfer a successful Kara Lawson away from Duke when the time comes. :)

I can see the headlines now. Durham police called down to the Duke campus to forcefully remove a irate middle-aged Duke WBB fan who has chained himself to the front door of Coach Kara Lawson's office. :confused: :eek::eek::eek:
 
Shea is at Vanderbilt to get HC experience then will be headed back to UCONN for the HC position once he and CD retire.. that’s just my 2 cents.. 😬
Shea is at Vanderbilt to get HC experience then will be headed back to UCONN for the HC position once he and CD retire.. that’s just my 2 cents.. 😬
That's what it's worth, 2 cents.
 
That's what it's worth, 2 cents.
not everyone wants where they play to be their dream job, especially an SEC school like Vanderbilt where she can build something special, why would she wanna leave that? The Big east has no competition, the biggest threat is who Depaul? SEC alone with having football is better for all their sports
 
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Moot point... no successful SEC coach at a program they built is gonna leave for any other job. South Carolina has SEC money... other conferences simply can't compete with that money that the top programs down there are willing to put out.

Never underestimate the ability of South Carolina to shoot itself in the foot, but it would take a major screwup for Dawn Staley to leave for another college job.

If she did leave, I doubt seriously it would be to take on the no-win scenario of replacing Geno.

Like you said, South Carolina can more easily afford to pay her anything that UCONN can come up with. But see the first point.
 
I think this is a great topic of discussion and one that should be ongoing. I mean, we are just fans....on a message board.

My short list of people I would love to see interested in the UCONN job are as follows:

And yes-I want CD to stay as Associate HC past Geno for the transition.

Shea Ralph
Carla Berube
Kara Lawson
Courtney Banghart
Meghan Duffy
Kim Barnes-Arico
Becky Hammon
 
Never underestimate the ability of South Carolina to shoot itself in the foot, but it would take a major screwup for Dawn Staley to leave for another college job.

If she did leave, I doubt seriously it would be to take on the no-win scenario of replacing Geno.

Like you said, South Carolina can more easily afford to pay her anything that UCONN can come up with. But see the first point.

Never underestimate the ability of South Carolina to shoot itself in the foot, but it would take a major screwup for Dawn Staley to leave for another college job.

If she did leave, I doubt seriously it would be to take on the no-win scenario of replacing Geno.

Like you said, South Carolina can more easily afford to pay her anything that UCONN can come up with. But see the first point.
The only job I could see Dawn leaving for is Virginia or UCLA......if they step up with $$$$$$

Yes, UCLA! If they pay, it's a good job. Dawn is better than any coach in the country at building and connecting with a fan base, Southern California is easy to recruit to, and the amount of HS talent in California is unmatched.
 
Well this will depend on how committed Uconn wants to be to WBB. They may not want to hire a 5yr $2 million per year coach. Maybe someone from the WNBA shows interest. Maybe Geno will not want anything to do with naming a successor. Didn’t really work out for the men.
 
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Well this will depend on how committed Uconn wants to be to WBB. They may not want to hire a 5yr $2 million per year coach. Maybe someone from the WNBA shows interest. Maybe Geno will not want anything to do with naming a successor. Didn’t really work out for the men.
UCONN had better step up and not let the money stand in the way of getting the right person.
They had better not have built this program into the BEST EVER in HISTORY only to then play cheapskate and let the program fall apart. Just have to be smarter than that. Step up and spend whatever it takes.
The value of the UCONN WOMEN'S BBALL is UNMATCHED and a huge positive window into the university as a whole. You just have to do whatever you possibly can to keep it ELITE.
 
Devil's Advocate: Try to look at this from the perspective of the school administration. How much work and stress is imposed on the University to maintain a program like UConn WCBB. As fans we may only see the glitz and glamour of it all.
Maybe everything sort of settles into some sort of equilibrium/homeostasis when Geno steps away. Think of some other situations in which an iconic, hugely successful coach has left. Are the resources available to the new coach automatically the same as they were for the historically great coach? UCLA, Indiana, UNLV, Duke (when Coach K retires), Tenn, ODU, LaTech (women)
I would gather that there are built in difficulties at UConn because it does not have the conference affiliations that automatically keep it strong. Regionally too has to be a strain. Seems like UConn would naturally compete with the likes of UNH, URI, UMass, UVt.
UCLA and Indiana both had huge traditions and powerful league affiliations and they have still struggled mightily without Wooden and Knight. Gunna be interesting. Just saying, it could be possible that the University will see Geno's departure as a chance to relax a tad.
I played in HS for an iconic coach (he actually coached Big John Thompson at Carroll in DC). The HS had about 120 boys, grades 7-12. Do the math. I had 21 in my graduating class. About half went to Ivies. About a quarter were National Merit Scholars. And our hoop squad was wicked. Two years in a row, D1 recruits, UVA and Jacksonville. When Coach left the Admin could finally breathe a little and "concentrate on academics". (like they really needed to) Now they compete with the tiny Catholic/Private schools around the area that nobody's ever heard of. We used to be Washington Post Metro top 20.
 
Devil's Advocate: Try to look at this from the perspective of the school administration. How much work and stress is imposed on the University to maintain a program like UConn WCBB. As fans we may only see the glitz and glamour of it all.
Maybe everything sort of settles into some sort of equilibrium/homeostasis when Geno steps away. Think of some other situations in which an iconic, hugely successful coach has left. Are the resources available to the new coach automatically the same as they were for the historically great coach? UCLA, Indiana, UNLV, Duke (when Coach K retires), Tenn, ODU, LaTech (women)
I would gather that there are built in difficulties at UConn because it does not have the conference affiliations that automatically keep it strong. Regionally too has to be a strain. Seems like UConn would naturally compete with the likes of UNH, URI, UMass, UVt.
UCLA and Indiana both had huge traditions and powerful league affiliations and they have still struggled mightily without Wooden and Knight. Gunna be interesting. Just saying, it could be possible that the University will see Geno's departure as a chance to relax a tad.
I played in HS for an iconic coach (he actually coached Big John Thompson at Carroll in DC). The HS had about 120 boys, grades 7-12. Do the math. I had 21 in my graduating class. About half went to Ivies. About a quarter were National Merit Scholars. And our hoop squad was wicked. Two years in a row, D1 recruits, UVA and Jacksonville. When Coach left the Admin could finally breathe a little and "concentrate on academics". (like they really needed to) Now they compete with the tiny Catholic/Private schools around the area that nobody's ever heard of. We used to be Washington Post Metro top 20.

Please don't talk to me about URI, UNG, VT, Maine etc being UCONN rivals. They do not match up in any way with the prestige, name brand, history of excellence with UCONN. UCONN's more natural rivals in terms of prestige (state schools) are: Penn State, Maryland, Rutgers, Syracuse, Boston College (I not not state schools) and the like. conference affiliation aside, UCONN is a TOP 25 State University. Don't insult us by comparing us to far lesser and (never were) schools just because were in New England. UCONN has risen FAR ABOVE those schools.
 
Devil's Advocate: Try to look at this from the perspective of the school administration. How much work and stress is imposed on the University to maintain a program like UConn WCBB. As fans we may only see the glitz and glamour of it all.
Maybe everything sort of settles into some sort of equilibrium/homeostasis when Geno steps away. Think of some other situations in which an iconic, hugely successful coach has left. Are the resources available to the new coach automatically the same as they were for the historically great coach? UCLA, Indiana, UNLV, Duke (when Coach K retires), Tenn, ODU, LaTech (women)
I would gather that there are built in difficulties at UConn because it does not have the conference affiliations that automatically keep it strong. Regionally too has to be a strain. Seems like UConn would naturally compete with the likes of UNH, URI, UMass, UVt.
UCLA and Indiana both had huge traditions and powerful league affiliations and they have still struggled mightily without Wooden and Knight. Gunna be interesting. Just saying, it could be possible that the University will see Geno's departure as a chance to relax a tad.
I played in HS for an iconic coach (he actually coached Big John Thompson at Carroll in DC). The HS had about 120 boys, grades 7-12. Do the math. I had 21 in my graduating class. About half went to Ivies. About a quarter were National Merit Scholars. And our hoop squad was wicked. Two years in a row, D1 recruits, UVA and Jacksonville. When Coach left the Admin could finally breathe a little and "concentrate on academics". (like they really needed to) Now they compete with the tiny Catholic/Private schools around the area that nobody's ever heard of. We used to be Washington Post Metro top 20.
Funny how u mention Indiana and unlv UConn has won 4 men’s titles 3 by coach Calhoun and 1 with his recruits but hardly anyone mentions him as an all time great always amazes me
 
Please don't talk to me about URI, UNG, VT, Maine etc being UCONN rivals. They do not match up in any way with the prestige, name brand, history of excellence with UCONN. UCONN's more natural rivals in terms of prestige (state schools) are: Penn State, Maryland, Rutgers, Syracuse, Boston College (I not not state schools) and the like. conference affiliation aside, UCONN is a TOP 25 State University. Don't insult us by comparing us to far lesser and (never were) schools just because were in New England. UCONN has risen FAR ABOVE those schools.
Thanks for that. My reference was regional and I said so.
Maybe you could help explain to me why UConn would not then be a fit for the ACC (Cuse and BC) or the Big 10 (Rutgers, Penn St, MD). Being a huge UConn WCBB fan I would love to see that!
 
Funny how u mention Indiana and unlv UConn has won 4 men’s titles 3 by coach Calhoun and 1 with his recruits but hardly anyone mentions him as an all time great always amazes me
The Indiana reference was purely to illustrate how hard it is to fill the shoes of an iconic coach. I used a couple examples.
Sounds like you're due for a viewing of "Hoosiers". Pull up the opening credits on Youtube and maybe you'll get what I mean.
 
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