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auror said:
FG%? What? No he's not. What's your source on that?

Edit- ESPN has him 11th among qualifying players, but it's using season long stats for conference players. He's been much worse in actual conference play. And only for regular FG%. Anything more advanced and his numbers tank.
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Yep. In conference play- 5.6 ppg and 5.8 rebs, 1 block per game. 46% fg, 46% ft.

Once you do a deep dive it looks even worse.
 
UConnStats said:
In league play: 87.9 ORtg

In the 3 wins he played 20+ min, he averaged 7 points. Are you attributing those wins to him? I don't understand the point of this post. There's a reason he's not playing 20+ minutes anymore.
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Are points the only thing that matter? What about defense and rebounding? Are they unimportant?
 
UConnStats said:
In league play: 87.9 ORtg

In the 3 wins he played 20+ min, he averaged 7 points. Are you attributing those wins to him? I don't understand the point of this post. There's a reason he's not playing 20+ minutes anymore.
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Carlton has a 90 ORating.

Interestingly, his ORtg and DRtg stats are much better than Akok's in conference play.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
Are points the only thing that matter? What about defense and rebounding? Are they unimportant?
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If you want a gauge on how he stacks up to his teammates on a per minute basis in conference here you go. And yes, Akok was having a bad in-conference season. His numbers are horrible in conference, you telling me an arbitrary fact about wins in relation to his minutes still means nothing. UConn has been a 3 man team in AAC play.
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nelsonmuntz said:
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Carlton has a 90 ORating.

Interestingly, his ORtg and DRtg stats are much better than Akok's in conference play.
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I was using Kenpom’s stats. Negligible difference
 
UConnStats said:
If you want a gauge on how he stacks up to his teammates on a per minute basis in conference here you go. And yes, Akok was having a bad in-conference season. His numbers are horrible in conference, you telling me an arbitrary fact about wins in relation to his minutes still means nothing. UConn has been a 3 man team in AAC play. View attachment 51088

I was using Kenpom’s stats. Negligible difference
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temi has some work to do. he's having a rough season..
 
Hi-Low said:
Not matter how you slice it Carlton is under productive. He's 6' 11'' but he doesn't want to dunk, he'd rather try layups. He is easily the worst free throw shooter on the team so he can't be on the floor at the end of close games. He hasn't done nearly enough with minutes he's gotten this year.

He has a good game and then disappears the next 2. I don't think we can rely on him to be our starting center next year.
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He’s also a sub-standard defender who often doesn’t react quickly enough to the action around him and gets caught out of position.

Plus that missed soft lay-in attempt (vs. dunk) on a pick-and-roll with Gaffney vs. Temple late in the game was absolutely criminal.
 
You can try to boil a player down to a number, although win shares is a stretch because you can tweak that algorithm a tiny bit and get a completely different outcome.

If you are right, and rebounds don't matter, then there should be no correlation between rebound differential and winning. Do you think there is?
 
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Did anyone see him take and make the jump-shot from midrange against Temple?

Have never seen him take a shot like that this season, would be great if he could expand his game to regularly include that.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
UConn record when Carlton plays 20 minutes or more in a game: 11-5
UConn record when Carlton plays less than 20 minutes in a game: 3-7
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At no point in your rambling were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul
 
This board s way too negative on Carlton.

One question. Looking for a rational answer. If he is so terrible why do opposing coaches see the need to double team im when the ball comes int the post?
 
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Palatine said:
This board s way too negative on Carlton.

One question. Looking for a rational answer. If he is so terrible why do opposing coaches see the need to double team im when the ball comes int the post?
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Because he has a 3/1 turnover vs assist ratio. He’s literally 3 times more likely to commit a turnover than create an assist. When he catches the ball, he’s looking score and when he’s shooting under 50% for a center, forcing him to create action is a good defensive strategy.
 
i was carlton's biggest defender but unfortunately he hasn't cut it thus far. we need an immediate impact big that will give us at least 12 ppg 7 rpg next season. im kicking myself because we couldn't land Kofi but it is what it is. Hopefully the staff pull through with Adama or Javonte accelerates his development way faster than expected.
 
Palatine said:
This board s way too negative on Carlton.

One question. Looking for a rational answer. If he is so terrible why do opposing coaches see the need to double team im when the ball comes int the post?
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I don't even want him gone and think he has an important role in some matchups, but he has tunnel vision and doesn't pass out of a double team so it's an easy choice for opposing coaches
 
navery12 said:
I don't even want him gone and think he has an important role in some matchups, but he has tunnel vision and doesn't pass out of a double team so it's an easy choice for opposing coaches
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this. if he learned to pass out of double teams then maybe he won't be double teamed anymore, which would then allow him to 1v1 his defender for some buckets.
 
Palatine said:
This board s way too negative on Carlton.

One question. Looking for a rational answer. If he is so terrible why do opposing coaches see the need to double team im when the ball comes int the post?
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because he almost always makes the wrong decision in the double team. The same way hack a shaq is giving free two shots too bad Shaq is an awful shooter. A double brings an extra defender and leaves someone open Carlton can’t find that person though.
 
Salty Dog said:
Did anyone see him take and make the jump-shot from midrange against Temple?

Have never seen him take a shot like that this season, would be great if he could expand his game to regularly include that.
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'the shot?' from the outside looking in, josh seems like a big kid who, as time goes on, does something, and then it dawns on him 'I can do that? cooool' check out the smile that he had on his face after he hit that one. ear to ear grin. I believe his repertoire will continue to expand on the offensive end, as he better understands the teams need for him to cut down on the defensive fouls. especially the boatload he collects as he tries to bail out another one of our guys getting beat on the drive. josh is still an incomplete work. I like his/our chances for that happening. take the foul line j josh -take it, again and again.
 
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Today I learned that correlation equals causation.

The team that misses more shots creates more rebounding opportunities, that is why you'll see a correlation between rebounding and winning.
 
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polycom said:
because he almost always makes the wrong decision in the double team. The same way hack a shaq is giving free two shots too bad Shaq is an awful shooter. A double brings an extra defender and leaves someone open Carlton can’t find that person though.
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Hi-Low said:
Not matter how you slice it Carlton is under productive. He's 6' 11'' but he doesn't want to dunk, he'd rather try layups. He is easily the worst free throw shooter on the team so he can't be on the floor at the end of close games. He hasn't done nearly enough with minutes he's gotten this year.

He has a good game and then disappears the next 2. I don't think we can rely on him to be our starting center next year.
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He at 6 ( 3-5) points and 5 rebounds in 14 minutes last night.
We built that first lead when he came in and seemed unstoppable
He even hit a jumper was pulled and only saw only limited minutes for the rest of the game.
Adams played 35 minutes and scored 5 Pts on 1-8 shooting.
Who was more productive?
Carlton’s 40 min projected rebound numbers are through the roof . Not just last night but for the year.
Whaley was great and Maybe Hurley felt Temple’s mobility inside wasn’t a match for him . But there were a lot less productive guys than Carlton. I though he could have played him and IW together freeing Whaley to gamble on traps.
Us going small didn’t seem to work as it looked like it was awful easy for them to score on us.
If he comes back (you never know) he will be a situational starter next year as he is the only guy we have who can match up with the more physical 5 ‘s we will face. Whaley will probably be our 4 next year. Without Akok.
Impact 5 ‘s from first year players is rare.
You guys trying to run him out should be careful what you wish for.
Did you ever try to find an open guy with two bigs on you? getting a pass off isn’t that easy.
 
Palatine said:
This board s way too negative on Carlton.

One question. Looking for a rational answer. If he is so terrible why do opposing coaches see the need to double team im when the ball comes int the post?
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It’s an automatic TO.
 
AZHuskiePop said:
He at 6 ( 3-5) points and 5 rebounds in 14 minutes last night.
We built that first lead when he came in and seemed unstoppable
He even hit a jumper was pulled and only saw only limited minutes for the rest of the game.
Adams played 35 minutes and scored 5 Pts on 1-8 shooting.
Who was more productive?
Carlton’s 40 min projected rebound numbers are through the roof . Not just last night but for the year.
Whaley was great and Maybe Hurley felt Temple’s mobility inside wasn’t a match for him . But there were a lot less productive guys than Carlton. I though he could have played him and IW together freeing Whaley to gamble on traps.
Us going small didn’t seem to work as it looked like it was awful easy for them to score on us.
If he comes back (you never know) he will be a situational starter next year as he is the only guy we have who can match up with the more physical 5 ‘s we will face. Whaley will probably be our 4 next year. Without Akok.
Impact 5 ‘s from first year players is rare.
You guys trying to run him out should be careful what you wish for.
Did you ever try to find an open guy with two bigs on you? getting a pass off isn’t that easy.
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I’m not a 6 10 d-1 center but try again.
 
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