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Fiftyish said:
Save yourself the time...not worth the effort. :rolleyes:
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Have been ignoring this one since it got to about page 6. Came back to it today and read from p12 on...right you are!! (IMO...)
 
Brilliant thread title edit.... From Lou to Eternity. I can foresee a movie...
 
Now if we can just get Biff to edit this and change "From Here" to "From Lou"...!!

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Although on second thought, maybe some might read into the photo of Burt and Deborah kissing so maybe this would be a better one?

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I believe Durr is coming. I read somewhere was a post on the Georgia board by tyree that Durr was all about UConn. I also read a while back somewhere she was all UConn. So if she comes we deal with it and if she doesnt come we deal with it. Either way we have a roster that on paper says we're going to the next 5 and no other team can say that. So for those who want to guarantee them self a trip to the FF come to UConn and those who want to guarantee them self of most likely not going dont come to UConn but either way we're going. When you think of the top players that didnt come to UConn over the years and UConn continues to go to FF after FF and win NCs you've gotta wonder why.
 
UConnChapette said:
Based on your above bolded statement...are you now saying that the fact that Geno and staff has not stopped recruiting Durr is an indication that he does not feel he has enough and is therefore okay in the ongoing recruitment of top talent??

So confused...:confused:
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First, I didn't say he SHOULDN'T go after Durr. I think it's complicated. She's a great talent who normally you'd love to have. What I am saying is that if you get her you're going to have to live with multiple players leaving, and also that the message sent to future recruits MIGHT to problematic. Now, maybe they won't pay any attention. We are talking about 14-17 year-olds, after all.

Second, I believe the situation is unique which is where I and others seem to differ. Usually, the coaching staff WOULD stop at some point. Perhaps due to the fact that it's Durr they are willing to make a special exception. Then again, for all we know they might be looking at more than her. I just find it odd that they don't seem to care about what a logjam of good players they're going to have. In a lot of ways it's a great headache to have, but it's still a headache.
 
"Somebody tell a joke." Do you remember what movie this quote came from?
 
Sonny44 said:
On a board like this we like to banter around our opinions and try to accept others. Most people in this thread are trying express the plusses and minuses of overstocking talent using AD as an example. But the discussion seems to have turned into arguments, ad nauseum. You seem frustrated apparently because you are trying to change someone's opinion or perspective. That may not be an achievable goal.
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Not really. Just trying to show him what he said was incorrect. Not really an opinion thing.
 
meyers7 said:
Not really. Just trying to show him what he said was incorrect. Not really an opinion thing.
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You threw everything but the kitchen sink out and I pointed out specifically how at least four of those sink items didn't fit. So if I'm wrong to some extent, so are you.
 
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Sluconn Husky said:
First, I didn't say he SHOULDN'T go after Durr. I think it's complicated. She's a great talent who normally you'd love to have. What I am saying is that if you get her you're going to have to live with multiple players leaving, and also that the message sent to future recruits MIGHT to problematic. Now, maybe they won't pay any attention. We are talking about 14-17 year-olds, after all.

Second, I believe the situation is unique which is where I and others seem to differ. Usually, the coaching staff WOULD stop at some point. Perhaps due to the fact that it's Durr they are willing to make a special exception. Then again, for all we know they might be looking at more than her. I just find it odd that they don't seem to care about what a logjam of good players they're going to have. In a lot of ways it's a great headache to have, but it's still a headache.
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I just find it odd that they don't seem to care about what a logjam of good players they're going to have.

This is the part I’m having a problem with. We might lsoe three players after 201-5-2016 graduation, right?
Gabby’s knees are questionable, right?

So how many scholarship does it leave us if the three leave in 201-5-2016 season and if Gabby goes down or doesn’t return to her form? These are real possibilities, aren't they?

Now you seem pretty sure KLS and NC are very, very good and you are high on NB too. But are you also assured that Kia Nurse will be stellar at the pg combined with that the pg position is her natural position (if Kia Nurse's best position is the sg or sf imo there is no way we should "sacrfice her" to play pg large amounts of time if we can help it. She should have the right to play to her strenghts, right?) ? It's okay if you do.

I value your opinion. Just interested in your thoughts - because you are one of the posters that seems to think we're set. So you have seen Kia Nurse and what is your evalaution of her as a pg, sg and sf?
 
meyers7 said:
And I imagine Geno agrees with me because I've yet to hear him come out and say, "We're done for 2015".
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I remember reading a quote from Geno (before any verbals) when asked about 2015 recruitment prospects and he thought UConn had a good chance to get 4 or 5. That was also before Butler transferred. Can't find the article though.
 
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This is silly. You've got a player in Durr who is ranked 1 or 2 in the polls and said to have the talent of DT and your thinking we should pass on her. It has also been said she is pro UConn and UConn wants her. So why all the questions. Get her verbal and worry about everything after that. I believe UConn will be so strong that everybody will play and almost everybody will start at some point. Why because there will be slumps and injuries. How silly to think we have the number 1/2 player in the country with all that talent compared to DT and we wouldn't continue to recruit her??????????????? Im not drunk. Come on guys. Asia Durr and your thinking you would pass on her. Hey when Diana verballed we had a transfer. These things happen. Its all about the team and if somebody wants more PT and they dont think they will get it then they should leave. Attitude is everything and being happy all round is necessary for everybody to succeed. Listen if we can get Durr we need to sign her when shes ready. She would be a huge asset. What is all this nonsense about. This is a no brainier.
 
JS said:
You'd have to be specific as to what's over the line in your opinion and why. That's best done by private message to HuskyNan, Biff or me, or by the Report function, and we'll be glad to respond.

As a general comment, you're seeing direct and implied transfer talk in this thread and a certain amount of annoyance with its duration.

Couple that with repeated assertions of a conundrum -- that future recruiting may be hurt by the recruitment of a particular outstanding player -- and the posited establishment of a reputation for "recruiting over" -- and you have a formula for tension.

To clarify, the board has a strict rule against transfer talk that names a specific player or players who have not announced an intention to transfer. The rule doesn't cover generalized transfer talk, and there's the rub. Many here don't like it, whether it's within the rules or not.

They especially are not going to like it if it goes on and on in multiple threads, largely spurred by one poster with great energy for the subject. For those who don't like it, think endless fingernails on the blackboard.

So the annoyance with that is coming out, but neither the discussion nor the response has, to this point, struck us as being over the line.
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Thanks for the clarification.
 
hoophuskee said:
This is the part I’m having a problem with. We might lsoe three players after 201-5-2016 graduation, right?
Gabby’s knees are questionable, right?

So how many scholarship does it leave us if the three leave in 201-5-2016 season and if Gabby goes down or doesn’t return to her form? These are real possibilities, aren't they?

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So you have seen Kia Nurse and what is your evalaution of her as a pg, sg and sf?
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They'll lose 4 players between 15-16, either 3+1 or 2+2 depending on whether Tuck gets another year (and what is taking so long with that decision?).

I agree that Williams is a question mark, unfortunately. I have not seen Nurse in a game though, just some highlights. Based on what I've read I think she'll be a good player. Maybe never great but good.

I keep trying to figure out the '15 minutes situation and I just can't, partly because I think KLS and Collier are immediate impact players. Something like:

Stew-30
MoJeff-30
Butler-25-30 (call it 27)
KLS-22
Collier-18
Nurse-20
Ekmark-18
Chong-18
Edwards-10

That's 193 which leaves 7 minutes for Boykin, and that lineup doesn't include Tuck or Williams who I took out in a worst-case scenario. And of course Durr isn't factored in either since she's still a hypothetical at this point.
 
I am sure Geno & UCONN are still recruiting Durr heavily. Why not ? We would be crazy if we didn't. But I think this puts us in a wonderful spot. We have a great recruiting class coming in, and whether we get Durr or not does not mean we can't win a Nat Championship. IMHO there is no pressure on Geno and UCONN. Let's see if Durr will accept the challenge, and come to the best WBB program in the world. It is now up to Asia Durr, and we will welcome her if she comes, and wish her the best if she does not.
 
HoopsFan21 said:
Not a bad idea, though I don't think that would slow the UConn juggernaut much. You could bring the scholly limit down to 9 and I suspect UConn would still dominate.
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How many times in the past ten years has UConn had more than 12 scholarship items? I'm not talking about walkons that were awarded a scholarship because of their perseverance but actually recruited players. If there was a year where that actually happened, it was a fluke. Geno hasn't really wanted to or decided to do that to any extent. Our roster has often been a little meager because he doesn't bring in players just for window dressing. He brings players in that he feels can contribute and help the team to succeed. That being said, it obviously would not have affected the success than Geno has had. I do believe the amount of elite players who have the unselfishness that Geno desires that want to play for UConn has risen appreciably in the past couple of years and now it's a matter of him reacting to what he perceives his needs will be over the next few years.
 
Tonyc said:
This is silly. You've got a player in Durr who is ranked 1 or 2 in the polls and said to have the talent of DT and your thinking we should pass on her. It has also been said she is pro UConn and UConn wants her. So why all the questions. Get her verbal and worry about everything after that. I believe UConn will be so strong that everybody will play and almost everybody will start at some point. Why because there will be slumps and injuries. How silly to think we have the number 1/2 player in the country with all that talent compared to DT and we wouldn't continue to recruit her??????????????? Im not drunk. Come on guys. Asia Durr and your thinking you would pass on her. Hey when Diana verballed we had a transfer. These things happen. Its all about the team and if somebody wants more PT and they dont think they will get it then they should leave. Attitude is everything and being happy all round is necessary for everybody to succeed. Listen if we can get Durr we need to sign her when shes ready. She would be a huge asset. What is all this nonsense about. This is a no brainier.
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Agree Tony - don't know what all the fuss is about. Durr would truly be a no-brainier. I have no idea if we'll really have the opportunity to get her, but I do know that teams who win the NC always have superstars. UCONN has invested and built up a program that can attract superstars, so...what's the issue?

It's not like we stockpile talent. I remember before football scholarship limits (yes, OLD...). Oklahoma used to recruit every good quarterback out of Texas and turn them into defensive backs, just so Texas couldn't get them. That's not what's going on here - Geno doesn't even use all his scholarships. Geez - if she wants to come here, then COME ON DOWN!!!!!!!!
 
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Sluconn Husky said:
They'll lose 4 players between 15-16, either 3+1 or 2+2 depending on whether Tuck gets another year (and what is taking so long with that decision?).

I agree that Williams is a question mark, unfortunately. I have not seen Nurse in a game though, just some highlights. Based on what I've read I think she'll be a good player. Maybe never great but good.

I keep trying to figure out the '15 minutes situation and I just can't, partly because I think KLS and Collier are immediate impact players. Something like:

Stew-30
MoJeff-30
Butler-25-30 (call it 27)
KLS-22
Collier-18
Nurse-20
Ekmark-18
Chong-18
Edwards-10

That's 193 which leaves 7 minutes for Boykin, and that lineup doesn't include Tuck or Williams who I took out in a worst-case scenario. And of course Durr isn't factored in either since she's still a hypothetical at this point.
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I think that you might see Stew with 26 to 28 minutes with MoJeff replicating that while Butler could get something like 23 minutes and KLS as well. I think you could conceive Nurese getting the 20 minutes you listed while Collier and Ekmark might bring in 15 minutes as well as Chong. In 2001-2002 almost the entire starting five (who were super) were averaging about 22 to 27 minutes a game, if I remember accurately from a recent poster.My minutes distribution would give 19 more minutes to Edwards and whomever else which I think leaves a reasonable amount of minutes. I don't think Geno would be so exacting in how many minutes each player plays EVERY game. Maybe Stewie would have a game where she might play 33 minutes and another where it may be only 22 minutes. Chong could end up playing 6 minutes in one specific game with her bringing in 19 the next time out. Geno would surely have a massive amount of flexibility with everyone's minutes. What about a scenario (which I would hope doesn't ever come true) where Stewie or MoJeff were to have a bad sprain where they were questionable. Rather than rush to get them back on the court, he would have the luxury of giving them more rest because of the capabilities of the bench players. He might lose a little bit of experience and talent but he would be insuring that someone essential wouldn't go out and further aggravate an injury that might keep them out for a much longer time. It would have some really nice upside if that situation were to occur. I think Stewie and MoJeff and others wouldn't mind (in the team interest) if they lost a couple of minutes which could inevitably distributed to other talented teammates that would keep starters fresh and give some of the others valuable floor time. Maybe in the tournament you would find the starters bringing in more minutes but I think at least throughout the regular season the amount of minutes is easily manageable.
 
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Tonyc said:
This is silly. You've got a player in Durr who is ranked 1 or 2 in the polls and said to have the talent of DT and your thinking we should pass on her. It has also been said she is pro UConn and UConn wants her. So why all the questions. Get her verbal and worry about everything after that. Listen if we can get Durr we need to sign her when shes ready. She would be a huge asset. What is all this nonsense about. This is a no brainier.
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Agree 100% Tony.
 
Buzzyboy,

We'll see. I find it unlikely that Geno will restrict an all-time great like Stewart to 25 minutes as a senior. Or even Jefferson for that matter. He certainly didn't this past season, and depth really isn't a reason. The team had an average MOV of 35. He definitely could've sat those two more but he likes them on the court.

Your reassessment of my scenarios makes for 19 more minutes, but that's w/out Tuck and Williams and w/ Boykin getting just 7. If everyone's healthy it'll be interesting.
 
johnnyc said:
I remember reading a quote from Geno (before any verbals) when asked about 2015 recruitment prospects and he thought UConn had a good chance to get 4 or 5. That was also before Butler transferred. Can't find the article though.
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Yeah, I looked for it too. He said something to the effect that "wouldn't it be nice to come back to Storrs and find that the top four (five?) prospects had committed to UConn?" I got the feeling when I first read it that he had already gotten private verbals from both KLS and AD, as well as a couple of others. I thought at the time maybe Brown was one of them, but both Collier and Boykin would easily fit that description.
 
It was at the Middlesex Chamber breakfast. He said he thought UConn had a really good shot at 5 of the top ranked players.
 
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