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KSC94 said:
http://adimeback.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Big-East-Agreement-06.26.19.pdf

Item 1(b) specifically precludes us from putting football in a power conference. We'd have to leave entirely and pay the exit fee to do so. So no we're definitely not going to the B12 for just football lol
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WestHartHusk said:
You read that wrong. It specifically allows us to discuss joining a power conference. And only applies until the entrance date.
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@Ed Daigneault @EdDaigneault 1 hour ago
Despite being married to a lawyer, I'm not fluent in legalese, but I think the UConn-Big East deal states the withdrawal fee is $30 million from acceptance thru year 6 ...

@Ed Daigneault @EdDaigneault 1 hour ago
$15 million from year 7 thru year 9 and $10 million after the start of year 10 of membership.

Not that Tuxedo Yoda has a clue...
 
WestHartHusk said:
You read that wrong. It specifically allows us to discuss joining a power conference. And only applies until the entrance date.
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Re-read it... it says "other than" any of those conferences. So we can talk to any other conference not listed (the non P-5) about football.

And you're right it says we can't talk to them until our entrance date, so not sure if that means on July 1, 2020 we can talk to BIg12 about football only. I haven't seen the other provisions yet.
 
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BlueDogs said:
Maybe it’s not so crazy. UConn fills a spot with a reduced revenue share and gets the extra revenue bump for adding a team. Our revenue share could be $10 Million and the standard member revenue share is 34.3 Million. So, the conference wins and we win.
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Let’s take 2-4M and call it a day.
 
whaler11 said:
No. The financials are going to be better. I have no doubt about that.
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What's guess, without prejudice, Whaler? As much as pains me to say it, your instincts are pretty good particularly when the available info is sketchy.
 
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SMH

I want to think about the media rights agreement as well. It sure looks like a grant of rights, except that it is non-exclusive.
 
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whaler11 said:
That’s it though. They can’t sell fewer tickets than they are going to sell in 2019.

If you sell zero tickets for the AAC and sell zero tickets for Indy football - the net impact is zero.

They would sell more tickets playing a best of 13 series with UMass than they would sell losing 57-7 to Temple.
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Ticket sales won’t dip below whatever they are for 2019 because whatever morons are still going will go no matter what. We’ve witnessed what our total rock bottom baseline is, and we won’t do worse because we play Liberty rather than Tulane.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
If the ACC offers full membership in year 0-6, $30M isn't going to stop us.

It's a big pill to swallow but even on a pro-rated payout that $30M is paid back to whenever lends us the money very quickly.
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Yeah I mean this essentially lines us up at $15m right when we'd be joining. Seems like a good deal to me considering.
 
Rewster said:
Hope UConn loosens their academic acceptance for about 8 players a year.
We can’t act like Notre Dame when it comes to recruiting.
Let’s make a real run at this and be more like Boise St or Kansas St in recruiting.

Schools will want to play and team like that in the NY market
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We should take any player who can pass the SATs. UConn is kidding themselves. Transferring in to UConn is ridiculously easy. If you get a 3.0 at MCC you’re guaranteed admission. UConn is a massive public university. There are absolutely brilliant people there, and they let in total stooges who can pay a tuition bill. Not letting athletes in to protect some farcical idea of academic integrity is just stupid—we need to get over ourselves
 
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ConnHuskBask said:
If the ACC offers full membership in year 0-6, $30M isn't going to stop us.

It's a big pill to swallow but even on a pro-rated payout that $30M is paid back to whenever lends us the money very quickly.
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This is exactly right. $30M would be a drop in the bucket if that day comes.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
If the ACC offers full membership in year 0-6, $30M isn't going to stop us.

It's a big pill to swallow but even on a pro-rated payout that $30M is paid back to whenever lends us the money very quickly.
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Still it is entirely BS. That contract, at first scan, is all NBE. What the [heck]? How about negotiating? Where's the give and take?
 
CL82 said:
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Who would sign this. The NBE is protected by the entrance and exit fees.
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It doesn't make sense that we couldn't park our football team in any conference we wanted to (I mean if they'd have us). I don't see any provisions that we couldn't talk to them OR enter as a football-only member AFTER the entrance date.

I've only skimmed all the other provisions, and I don't see it, unless it's in a separate "Conference Rules" document, or unless I'm missing something.
 
UConn Dan said:
It doesn't make sense that we couldn't park our football team in any conference we wanted to (I mean if they'd have us). I don't see any provisions that we couldn't talk to them OR enter as a football-only member AFTER the entrance date.

I've only skimmed all the other provisions, and I don't see it, unless it's in a separate "Conference Rules" document, or unless I'm missing something.
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Why should they care what we do with football? They are protected by the (exorbitant) entrance and exit fees.
 
CL82 said:
Why should they care what we do with football? They are protected by the (exorbitant) entrance and exit fees.
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Right, I agree with you. I can't believe they agreed to that.

I just don't see any other provisions that would prevent us from talking to/accepting a football-only deal from the Big 12 AFTER our big east entrance date without penalty. Do you?
 
CL82 said:
Still it is entirely BS. That contract, at first scan, is all NBE. What the [heck]? How about negotiating? Where's the give and take?
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^^^ This is why I'm hoping we still have an ace up our sleeve, yet to be played. If tomorrow, for instance, we play the "UConn already accepted entrance into the XYZ, P5 conference for football only prior to today" card, what is the downside? The worst is that the BE has a temper tantrum but caves due to UConn's swag in all other sports.
 
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UConn Dan said:
Right, I agree with you. I can't believe they agreed to that.

I just don't see any other provisions that would prevent us from talking to/accepting a football-only deal from the Big 12 AFTER our big east entrance date without penalty. Do you?
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Nope. That's part of what makes it so weird. Unless they are trying to protect to us leaving before the entrance date and therefore not liable for the exit fee?
 
CL82 said:
Nope. That's part of what makes it so weird. Unless they are trying to protect to us leaving before the entrance date and therefore not liable for the exit fee?
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Right, I think they're trying to prevent us from pulling a TCU, et al. Independent football it is -- for now.
 
uconnphil2016 said:
We should take any player who can pass the SATs. UConn is kidding themselves. Transferring in to UConn is ridiculously easy. If you get a 3.0 at MCC you’re guaranteed admission. UConn is a massive public university. There are absolutely brilliant people there, and they let in total stooges who can pay a tuition bill. Not letting athletes in to protect some farcical idea of academic integrity is just stupid—we need to get over ourselves
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Passing the SAT SEC style is getting the 400 points you get for writing your name with number two pencil in the ovals.
 
Keep in mind - will the AAC teams also have open dates in 2020? They may be barred from playing us but it will create schedule juggling perhaps.
 
uconnphil2016 said:
We should take any player who can pass the SATs. UConn is kidding themselves. Transferring in to UConn is ridiculously easy. If you get a 3.0 at MCC you’re guaranteed admission. UConn is a massive public university. There are absolutely brilliant people there, and they let in total stooges who can pay a tuition bill. Not letting athletes in to protect some farcical idea of academic integrity is just stupid—we need to get over ourselves
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This should be the official college admissions policy. It is at many universities nationwide. Athletes also often bring leadership skills to the college community. That in itself is important.
 
P5 schools will play UConn , but not at the Rent. Not that long ago UConn was trying to become more B1G like. Now I guess the new role model is Villanova. Basketball is for schools that can't play football. 20 years ago AD Perkins said if you don't play football at the highest level , you will be left behind. He was right.
 
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Time for some more hot takes:

1. No P5 league is taking FB only.
2. If a P5 offers membership, the agreement be damned.
3. The clause is less than ironclad. It doesn't say the P5 can't call UConn though intermediaries such as say media companies and after 6 years (2025, when everyone expects a new round of realignment), the exit fee isn't prohibitive.
4. UConn still made out if you count the NCAA credits the C7 paid in the divorce.
 
UConn Dan said:
Re-read it... it says "other than" any of those conferences. So we can talk to any other conference not listed (the non P-5) about football.

And you're right it says we can't talk to them until our entrance date, so not sure if that means on July 1, 2020 we can talk to BIg12 about football only. I haven't seen the other provisions yet.
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Ahhh, my bad. Read it too fast and missed the last other than.

Anywho, just get in the conference and start chatting. And hey, we can talk to the AAC :).

Anywho, just have to enter the conferenc
 
BlueDogs said:
Maybe it’s not so crazy. UConn fills a spot with a reduced revenue share and gets the extra revenue bump for adding a team. Our revenue share could be $10 Million and the standard member revenue share is 34.3 Million. So, the conference wins and we win.
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The last time the Big 12 considered expanding, UConn didn’t make the final round despite having UConn BB to offer.
 
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