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Fox Discussing Post-Season NIT Alternative w/ BE, Big 12, B10

HuskyHawk said:
That's sad. An NIT run is what propelled this program to the next level. We celebrated that vigorously (and with fire).
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Times have changed. NIT used to mean something. Now it's played in Dickies Arena.
 
August_West said:
It never should be celebrated. Thats small time attendance, even for a preseason game against Marathon Oil. Either we are the Basketball Capital of the world or we aren't. Which way you want it?
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Rocktheworld said:
The fact that 6k people traveled to Storrs in March for NIT games is incredible to me.
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We are playing a game in a competitive tournament. We play to win and I would expect our fans to treat it as important. Had we not won the NIT we did, I don't think we go on to 1999 and beyond. It was really important. So anytime UConn is down enough to be in the NIT, the right attitude is to go in and dominate that thing. Get your attitude back.
 
Have you seen what is on tv besides sports? There isn’t much on. People will watch it if only for background noise.
 
HuskyHawk said:
We are playing a game in a competitive tournament. We play to win and I would expect our fans to treat it as important. Had we not won the NIT we did, I don't think we go on to 1999 and beyond. It was really important. So anytime UConn is down enough to be in the NIT, the right attitude is to go in and dominate that thing. Get your attitude back.
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I think you're living in fantasy land. If any of the other blue bloods were making a big deal out of winning in the NIT there would be 10 threads on this board mocking them endlessly for it. The players don't care about it so there's no reason fans should either. Especially for UConn fans when it's all about national championships
 
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HuskyHawk said:
We are playing a game in a competitive tournament. We play to win and I would expect our fans to treat it as important. Had we not won the NIT we did, I don't think we go on to 1999 and beyond. It was really important. So anytime UConn is down enough to be in the NIT, the right attitude is to go in and dominate that thing. Get your attitude back.
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Well, we didn't. Nobody gave a crap. I suppose I gave enough of a crap to spring for 2 tickets and haul myself out there. I can't remember what was more of a chore, the drive or the game. I remember ASU thinking after they won, "crap, we have to go play another game". Both teams just wanted the season to end. You are just writing drivel.
 
Rico444 said:
This is bad for college basketball, but a good sign for UConn. This is Fox dipping their toe in the waters of eventually breaking away from the NCAAs, but the fact that the Big East is being included in those plans (at least right now) means we're likely to be part of the breakaway assuming we're still in the Big East.
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Well, it means we're included as long as FOX remains our broadcast partner. I'm curious how they are able to use the Big 12 in this scenario when they split TV rights with ESPN. Why wouldn't ESPN counter with an expanded NIT that includes the ACC, SEC, Big 12, and A10 or whoever?

Tinfoil hat version of me agrees that this is FOX testing the waters on a tournament in an effort to potentially work with ESPN to steal all the power conferences away from CBS/Turner...
 
Waquoit said:
Well, we didn't. Nobody gave a crap. I suppose I gave enough of a crap to spring for 2 tickets and haul myself out there. I can't remember what was more of a chore, the drive or the game. I remember ASU thinking after they won, "crap, we have to go play another game". Both teams just wanted the season to end. You are just writing drivel.
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Then don't accept the NIT invite. My point is only that if UConn plays, treat it like it matters. Players and fans alike.

I really don't think this proposed tournament would be any different.
 
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Waquoit said:
This reminds me of the attempt to put together a tournament of all the teams that didn't qualify for 2018 World Cup. It was quickly called the World Crap by fans and never went anywhere.
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If it is crap that's Fox problem no?
 
Rocktheworld said:
This is the first step of colleges leaving the NCAA. They’ll test it out in basketball, and with the NIT. Good. The sooner, the better for us.
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Lol….no, not good.

When we’re talking about schools leaving the NCAA, we’re not talking about UConn and the Big East.
 
Like the adults giving participation trophies to whoever plays, NOW everyone in college basketball will play in a postseason tournament.
 
navery12 said:
I think you're living in fantasy land. If any of the other blue bloods were making a big deal out of winning in the NIT there would be 10 threads on this board mocking them endlessly for it. The players don't care about it so there's no reason fans should either. Especially for UConn fans when it's all about national championships
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Kansas claims a retro active “national championship” given out by the Pillsbury Doughboy as a legit title. I wish we would make fun of them for that more here.
 
Dooooooomed said:
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Presenting this as an opportunity to give a school and their players a leg up on potential NIL money is a bold marketing maneuver that may make this far more attractive than the other also ran post season tournaments.

That it is the two conferences that are outside the inevitable Power Two speaks volumes.

There currently is an NCAA rule (which they likely will not consider rescinding) where if you turn down an invitation to an NCAA run postseason tournament (NCAA had owned the NIT for more than a decade now) you cannot participate in another postseason tournament.

Risking what the result of testing the NCAA's resolve on this may well be worth the risk for the BE & B-12, the B1G may be far more cautious as they are playing a long game that still had more than a decade remaining before all of the pieces fall into place. They aren't going to benefit from this anywhere near as much as the other two conferences and making waves may not be in their best interests for a while.
 
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Fishy said:
Lol….no, not good.

When we’re talking about schools leaving the NCAA, we’re not talking about UConn and the Big East.
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The sooner they break away and form their own conferences into which we may be invited, the better. This is the first step towards that. We’re never getting into the B1G, Big 12, or ACC under the NCAA
 
Rocktheworld said:
The sooner they break away and form their own conferences into which we may be invited, the better. This is the first step towards that. We’re never getting into the B1G, Big 12, or ACC under the NCAA
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Those conferences are still going to be those conferences, no matter what the overarching entity is. If/when they do separate from the NCAA, we’ll simply be detached from wherever they’re going and we’ll remain with the group under the NCAA.
 
Fishy said:
Those conferences are still going to be those conferences, no matter what the overarching entity is. If/when they do separate from the NCAA, we’ll simply be detached from wherever they’re going and we’ll remain with the group under the NCAA.
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It's certainly a possibility, but Fox is negotiating with the Big East for this tournament, so that leads me to believe in any break there would be consideration given to the Big East. We're not talking about $40-50 million a year payments but we do have some value otherwise they wouldn't even consider including the Big East in this.
 
Rocktheworld said:
If UConn didn’t make the tournament but were playing a mini tournament with teams from the other two top basketball leagues on a similar level (top 35-41 for a 16-team tournament) and it was happening in Vegas in March, I could take that excuse to visit. Again, it’s a great time to go.

And if I didn’t want to pay to go to Vegas, I would absolutely watch on TV with nothing else going on in March. I feel like I would watch it over the final rounds of the NCAA tournament. Usually by then Cinderella is out, and I never really cared about Cinderella in the first place; I feel like mainly the general public and fans of schools outside the top 75 are those who care about Cinderella.

And once again it’s just a test. If it performs anywhere near as well as the NIT does, then they know they have something, the public isn’t necessarily beholden to NCAA events, and they could consider starting a new March Madness (and a new CFP).
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We would watch because we're obsessive UConn fans but I don't think the casuals would tune in and people with no connection to the schools won't tune in. Do people watch the NIT? I think the last NIT game I watched was when UConn lost to Virginia Tech in 2009-2010.
 
Fishy said:
Those conferences are still going to be those conferences, no matter what the overarching entity is. If/when they do separate from the NCAA, we’ll simply be detached from wherever they’re going and we’ll remain with the group under the NCAA.
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Good. And then they will have the only 4X National Champion from THIS century excluded from THEIR league. Thats a bold strategy, lets see how that plays out. I could've gone back one solitary year and made it 5x But 4x is good enough.
 
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Rico444 said:
It's certainly a possibility, but Fox is negotiating with the Big East for this tournament, so that leads me to believe in any break there would be consideration given to the Big East. We're not talking about $40-50 million a year payments but we do have some value otherwise they wouldn't even consider including the Big East in this.
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There's no way UConn and the Big East would be left out in basketball.
 
August_West said:
Good. And then they will have the only 4X National Champion from THIS century excluded from THEIR league. Thats a bold strategy, lets see how that plays out. I could've gone back one solitary year and made it 5x But 4x is good enough.
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It ain't happening, I have no idea why Fishy is still on this.
 
Fishy said:
Those conferences are still going to be those conferences, no matter what the overarching entity is. If/when they do separate from the NCAA, we’ll simply be detached from wherever they’re going and we’ll remain with the group under the NCAA.
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The idea/hope is that there will be fat trimmed from the conferences like a Wake Forest and that all-new conferences will be formed. Sure, most of the B1G will probably be invited into the new conference that Michigan and OSU start; but the idea is that, with the slate wiped clean, we are one of the invites out of the NCAA.
 
superjohn said:
I don't think the casuals would tune in and people with no connection to the schools won't tune in. Do people watch the NIT?
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Exactly; that’s already the case. Nobody should be expecting/hoping it’ll significantly outperform the NIT. But if it does about as well, then they have a proof of concept.
 
Rico444 said:
It's certainly a possibility, but Fox is negotiating with the Big East for this tournament, so that leads me to believe in any break there would be consideration given to the Big East. We're not talking about $40-50 million a year payments but we do have some value otherwise they wouldn't even consider including the Big East in this.
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It’s a dopey NIT replacement tournament.

It doesn’t speak to the Big East’s place at the table as a power conference because the Big East is not a power conference.
 
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