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cellocgg said:
Without Football to support that's all we would realistically need, maybe 20 - 25M tops, for our other programs and could drastically cut back on the state subsidy

But it's not really about the money, it's about our entire athletic department having the security it needs. Would you rather ensure your athletic department will still be thriving 20 years down the road or not? That's a massive improvement to me
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There is likely going to be massive change in the near future of college sports. I’d keep football at least for a while so options aren’t unnecessarily limited.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
I have a strong suspicion that if a decade ago we gave the ACC the same offer that SMU recently gave them we would have been in the ACC a decade ago.

I don't know of any state funded universities that could get away with offering their sports to a conference for zero media revenues as the state governments would veto it in a heartbeat. I imagine that there are very few private universities with the financial means (boosters) to pull this off.

SMU changed the landscape dramatically and most schools that still have aspirations of landing in a P4 conference will end up doing so with extremely discounted revenues.
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And when FSU and Clemson leave a few years from now and the conference blows up into smithereens we’d be right back to square one.
 
Even a blown up ACC is better for football than what we have right now. Does anyone think given the footprint that ESPN has in North Carolina that they'd let the conference die? If there are some blue bloods that don't get taken then plain and simple that's where UConn will probably end up. Syracuse, Duke, BCU, Wake, GT coming to the Rent would sell many tickets. That's one of the reasons it was built in the first place. Getting some of those teams back at Gampel or the Civic Center would be wild.
 
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UConn IS winning basketball championships...at a very high subsidized (by student and taxpayer) cost...is that sustainable long term ?

Back through the late 90's, the ACC had a bigger payout than the SEC..because basketball paid...then America must have gone football crazy...

If the pendulum swings a little back to basketball...that would be a Husky blessing.
 
As Swofford said in 2018...

“The world is a much different place now in that regard,” Swofford said. “For decades, as a conference, we made more headlines in basketball and more money in basketball, and there was nothing inherently wrong with that. Obviously, basketball remains a huge part of our success and identity today.
 
billybud said:
UConn IS winning basketball championships...at a very high subsidized (by student and taxpayer) cost...is that sustainable long term ?

Back through the late 90's, the ACC had a bigger payout than the SEC..because basketball paid...then America must have gone football crazy...

If the pendulum swings a little back to basketball...that would be a Husky blessing.
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Now we just wait 30 or so years until the new generations of kids stops playing Football due to the health risks
 
ZooCougar said:
I want both. The conference isn’t winning UConn championships. UConn is. UConn is winning despite the Big East.

Championships alone won’t ensure financial security for our programs.
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If I had my choice I’ll take the championships.. and the big east had a lot to do with us winning.. some of our recruits picked UConn because of the big east
 
The AAC is one of the worst things that ever happened to UConn Sports. Why are some wasting bandwidth trying to defend it? We would be nothing but a footnote now if UConn didn't bail.
 
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whalerfan said:
Even a blown up ACC is better for football than what we have right now. Does anyone think given the footprint that ESPN has in North Carolina that they'd let the conference die? If there are some blue bloods that don't get taken then plain and simple that's where UConn will probably end up. Syracuse, Duke, BCU, Wake, GT coming to the Rent would sell many tickets. That's one of the reasons it was built in the first place. Getting some of those teams back at Gampel or the Civic Center would be wild.
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My only concern is what is that conference going to pay out and would it even be considered in the same realms as the Big 12?
 
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cellocgg said:
Without Football to support that's all we would realistically need, maybe 20 - 25M tops, for our other programs and could drastically cut back on the state subsidy

But it's not really about the money, it's about our entire athletic department having the security it needs. Would you rather ensure your athletic department will still be thriving 20 years down the road or not? That's a massive improvement to me
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Jeff Goldblum What GIF by The Late Late Show with James Corden
 
Luna said:
If I had my choice I’ll take the championships.. and the big east had a lot to do with us winning.. some of our recruits picked UConn because of the big east
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Imagine the recruits we get in the Big 10 or the Big 12.

You need to touch grass. The department is bleeding cash.
 
I still do not think that many understand what they (P2 and big media) want to be the end game ..

The P2...(and ESPN. Fox, NBC).....they want all the freakin' money .. they want all the good TV slots... and want big advertisers to sign huge exclusives with the P2. Regional streaming for the others.

If you aint in the P2...chances are that you are in another league altogether.

Like a boa, they have been tightening the squeeze...first it was cut up FBS with the P5 and G5..... with the P5 having the votes...than it was dismantling the Pac 12 to get to a P4...than it was a CFP plan to favor the P2...

Next will be gutting the ACC....

The Big 12 will expand but will be sort of like a step between the G5 and the P2 league....

Eventually....the P2 (expanded SEC-Big 10) may reformulate to drop weaker draws in favor of cornering bigger draws and rivalries.
 
I could see, in the short term, teams like Northwestern, Mississippi State, Vandy, Indiana, etc...get relegated to conference networks and streaming...

In the long term...maybe the death of a Midwest conference and a Southern conference and slinking towards a NFC...AFC type structure....with internal divisions within each of the P2.
 
billybud said:
I still do not think that many understand what they (P2 and big media) want to be the end game ..

The P2...(and ESPN. Fox, NBC).....they want all the freakin' money .. they want all the good TV slots... and want big advertisers to sign huge exclusives with the P2. Regional streaming for the others.

If you aint in the P2...chances are that you are in another league altogether.

Like a boa, they have been tightening the squeeze...first it was cut up FBS with the P5 and G5..... with the P5 having the votes...than it was dismantling the Pac 12 to get to a P4...than it was a CFP plan to favor the P2...

Next will be gutting the ACC....

The Big 12 will expand but will be sort of like a step between the G5 and the P2 league....

Eventually....the P2 (expanded SEC-Big 10) may reformulate to drop weaker draws in favor of cornering bigger draws and rivalries.
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There’s so much speculation in that plan. It presumes that UConn fans, Fresno fans or Akron fans will still watch. I’m not so sure that the draw is there for fans that get disenfranchised to continue watching. I won’t. I’ll just watch pro sports more. I don’t care about Wisconsin vs Mich St. if UConn has no shot of competing with them or against them.
 
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Right now...most of the TV watching is accounted for by relatively few of the 134 FBS teams...

Akron ? Not so much even when they are on...

People watch marquee match's....

...in a hypothetical way, fans of teams like Akron can dream that they compete with Wisconsin. Ohio State, Michigan, etc, but it is the same way that I can dream about competing if they only let me tee it up in the Masters.

People will watch the CFP in millions even if the team that they are fans of will not play...

Did college football TV watching really get hurt by splitting off the P5 ?

Splitting FCS from FBS ?
 
ZooCougar said:
Imagine the recruits we get in the Big 10 or the Big 12.

You need to touch grass. The department is bleeding cash.
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I’m not sure about the big 10..I think we would recruit well in it..the big 12 I don’t think so.. in the big east we are the kings..any recruit that wants to play in the northeast is ours if we want them..the big east tournament is second to none..in the big 12 we would be outcasts..I don’t think recruits will want to go to a northeast school to play in a southern conference.. and our conference tournament would be Kansas
 
Luna said:
I’m not sure about the big 10..I think we would recruit well in it..the big 12 I don’t think so.. in the big east we are the kings..any recruit that wants to play in the northeast is ours if we want them..the big east tournament is second to none..in the big 12 we would be outcasts..I don’t think recruits will want to go to a northeast school to play in a southern conference.. and our conference tournament would be Kansas
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The BIG 10 basketball conference tournament was in Minneapolis, Minnesota. How would that be different than Kansas?
 
Seems notable that the Hurley contract and the Big East media deal are still not finalized. Wondering if there's an explanation or connection or something else afoot.
 
cellocgg said:
"Hello Tony Petitti, we would like to bring our back-to-back six time national champion MBB and 11-time national champion WBB Blue-Blood basketball programs to the B1G, a conference lacking in basketball, and we only need $10M annually to do it. We can disband our Football program"

"An extra $10M would be a drop in the bucket for Fox, welcome to the B1G"
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Thank you for your interest in UConn football
 
CJasmer said:
The BIG 10 basketball conference tournament was in Minneapolis, Minnesota. How would that be different than Kansas?
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Read my post again.. I was talking about the big 12
 
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CJasmer said:
You said BIG 10 would work, but not Big 12.
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Yes..if we got offered a big ten invite I’m sure we would take it.. and we should.. I think we would do well in the big 10..the only conference I think is a bad fit is the big 12 and the SEC
 
Luna said:
Yes..if we got offered a big ten invite I’m sure we would take it.. and we should.. I think we would do well in the big 10..the only conference I think is a bad fit is the big 12 and the SEC
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I disagree. Big 10 is not a better fit than Big 12. The best fit is the ACC where basketball has always been considered more important than football.
 
CJasmer said:
I disagree. Big 10 is not a better fit than Big 12. The best fit is the ACC where basketball has always been considered more important than football.
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Plus ACC bigger presence in Northeast with BC and Syracuse. Much better fit for UConn with many teams from the original Big East.
 
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