Fox - Big East exclusive negotiating window

[CTFAN4LIFE]

The benefit here is that Fox won't lower their offer if they believe ESPN has interest in the product. From a conference wide perspective, this can only benefit us. From a UConn specific the only potential downside is that we could once again be in a position where the conference takes our tier three rights and sells them for what would be a substantially lower return to us (as the revenues will be spread throughout the conference) than what we would get on our own.

This might be like the Red Sox bidding on a superstar to make the Yankees have to pay more, but with the new streaming partnership that includes ESPN and Fox, who knows what ESPN's motivation is these days.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Glass houses, ziz. Villanova is in the same place as Syracuse. If Villanova gets the right coach, they could be back. If not, they could be Georgetown.

And I never said BC could be great, although in the early Big East days they were very good. Actually from the mid-60s through the early 2000s they were solid with some very good teams.

Maybe the NEWBIE should add LaSalle and NYU. Both won NCAA championships. NYU won both the NCAA and the NIT in the same year! Let’s go Violets!

That was CCNY. not NYU
a powerhouse until the 1950 point shaving scandal. The NCAA was held at MSG that year so it was easily doable. They were lead by a big guy 6’8” Ed Roman who was banned from the NBA for taking bribes.
I saw him play in as a ringer in a Andonia AC team In a SRO Shelton HS Gym . He hit a 12-15 foot hook shot on a fast break that I’ve never seen anyone else do.
Amazing shot .
That game featured a bunch of banned guys like 7’0” Bill Spivey who scored 67 pts
The buzz was Wilt night play for the Milford team as he was in a contract dispute with the Warriors but he was a no show .
. Thr preliminary game was a women’s game featuring a teenage Joan Joyce who was head and shoulders above everyone else scoring 30 on 15-18 foot jumpers.She would be a star in WNBA
If she wasn’t the best female athlete in history I don’t know who would be .

 

[Sole]

The UConn Creighton game was the most watched cable game in the history of the big east (fs1)709k I’m thinking a lot people tuned in because UConn was getting beat..this bolds well for the big east in negotiations for the next tv contract

 

[John]

The UConn Creighton game was the most watched cable game in the history of the big east (fs1)709k I’m thinking a lot people tuned in because UConn was getting beat..this bolds well for the big east in negotiations for the next tv contract

There were higher rated college bb games that day from other conferences. Originally posted by Husky Dan in the BB board

https://the-boneyard.com/attachments/img_5656-jpeg.96737/

 

[Sole]

There were higher rated college bb games that day from other conferences. Originally posted by Husky Dan in the BB board

https://the-boneyard.com/attachments/img_5656-jpeg.96737/

That game was on FOX on Saturday.. this game was on Tuesday on fs1

 

[John]

That game was on FOX on Saturday.. this game was on Tuesday on fs1

sorry, wrong game, my bad.

 

[Ha Who]

That was CCNY. not NYU
a powerhouse until the 1950 point shaving scandal. The NCAA was held at MSG that year so it was easily doable. They were lead by a big guy 6’8” Ed Roman who was banned from the NBA for taking bribes.
I saw him play in as a ringer in a Andonia AC team In a SRO Shelton HS Gym . He hit a 12-15 foot hook shot on a fast break that I’ve never seen anyone else do.
Amazing shot .
That game featured a bunch of banned guys like 7’0” Bill Spivey who scored 67 pts
The buzz was Wilt night play for the Milford team as he was in a contract dispute with the Warriors but he was a no show .
. Thr preliminary game was a women’s game featuring a teenage Joan Joyce who was head and shoulders above everyone else scoring 30 on 15-18 foot jumpers.She would be a star in WNBA
If she wasn’t the best female athlete in history I don’t know who would be .

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[SixRings]

Sorry if this was posted somwehere already but I can’t seem to find anything on it and this thread seems somewhat appropriate. Jay Bilas, during the Game Day broadcast last Saturday vs Villanova, said that the Big East may merge with the ACC. Is there merit to this or has he been throwing this out there for a while and it’s meh news? I don’t follow realignment closely but this is interesting for bball fans.

 

[Hoophound]

Sorry if this was posted somwehere already but I can’t seem to find anything on it and this thread seems somewhat appropriate. Jay Bilas, during the Game Day broadcast last Saturday vs Villanova, said that the Big East may merge with the ACC. Is there merit to this or has he been throwing this out there for a while and it’s meh news? I don’t follow realignment closely but this is interesting for bball fans.

I’ve heard this. I said in this thread or another that the Big East would absorb the ACC leftovers and begin playing football again. It could be the other way around, but that really depends on what brand is considered better. I’d prefer that it be called the Big East, the ACC has negative connotations these days.

The ESPN love fest the last two weeks was interesting and Gameday was outstanding.

 

[billybud]

I wonder if ESPN has thought of maximizing UConn's value...

UNC-Duke, this month, drew 3.2 million viewers...What could the Huskies do on ESPN ?

 

[billybud]

A strange thought...if football breaks away into a P2 sport....why not have a basketball breakaway...

Reconstitute a basketball P2-P3 made up of the more powerful teams ?

Unhinge BB and football from "all sports".

The basketball revenue gets short shift because the NCAA hides so much of the annual revenue by its byzantine distribution formula over 5 years, instead of one year. Should the NCAA disappear and the big 2 venture out on their own from the NCAA, the annual revenue numbers for good basketball teams could look a lot different than just having media contracts supporting the programs,

 

[Hoophound]

I wonder if ESPN has thought of maximizing UConn's value...

UNC-Duke, this month, drew 3.2 million viewers...What could the Huskies do on ESPN ?

This is part of a bigger picture. Of course, we’d draw well against Duke. However, we used to draw well against Cuse. This is as much about restoring brands like Cuse, VTech and BC as it is about creating new, meaningful matchups.

Northeast sports can be restored. The teams need to play old rivals so the region cares. Nobody in the Northeast cares about the south until they retire there.

 

[dayooper]

Sorry if this was posted somwehere already but I can’t seem to find anything on it and this thread seems somewhat appropriate. Jay Bilas, during the Game Day broadcast last Saturday vs Villanova, said that the Big East may merge with the ACC. Is there merit to this or has he been throwing this out there for a while and it’s meh news? I don’t follow realignment closely but this is interesting for bball fans.

If the majority of the football schools leave, this would be awesome! UConn would have a football home and still have great basketball games against their current Big East opponents. Throw in Duke and some traditional rivalries and thus will be a hit. It would be the best basketball conference, hands down.

 

[billybud]

This is part of a bigger picture. Of course, we’d draw well against Duke. However, we used to draw well against Cuse. This is as much about restoring brands like Cuse, VTech and BC as it is about creating new, meaningful matchups.

Northeast sports can be restored. The teams need to play old rivals so the region cares. Nobody in the Northeast cares about the south until they retire there.

When you are talking about restoring Northeast sports, it is in the context of basketball. But with conferences hooked up as all sport (and growing) there may be less room on schedules for OOC inter conference rivalry building. I am at a loss as to why Cuse can't move back to some BB prominence...BC is a sports black hole...and VT? Dunno...Virginia has always been a BB oriented school.

 

[Hoophound]

When you are talking about restoring Northeast sports, it is in the context of basketball. But with conferences hooked up as all sport (and growing) there may be less room on schedules for OOC inter conference rivalry building. I am at a loss as to why Cuse can't move back to some BB prominence...BC is a sports black hole...and VT? Dunno...Virginia has always been a BB oriented school.

There was juice playing each other in football too. We used to sell out all the time in the Big East.

 

[KryHavok]

I’ve heard this. I said in this thread or another that the Big East would absorb the ACC leftovers and begin playing football again. It could be the other way around, but that really depends on what brand is considered better. I’d prefer that it be called the Big East, the ACC has negative connotations these days.

The ESPN love fest the last two weeks was interesting and Gameday was outstanding.

How about calling it the "Big AC"... That makes it still sound sort of like the Big East? ;-)

I can't see this happening as it's too clean a resolution for us, and I can't imagine the Catholic schools would ever align themselves again with football in any capacity, notwithstanding our FBS program and the 3 FCS programs.

 

[billybud]

Yeah...the OBE had some good rivalries...I followed WVU-Pitt in the Backyard Brawl...and rooted against the Canes...VT finally beat Miami (maybe mid 90's) and ran off a string of five wins over the Canes...

I stopped following BE football when Miami, VT, WVU left.

I really followed individual teams...not the conference..

 

[John]

How about calling it the "Big AC"... That makes it still sound sort of like the Big East? ;-)

I can't see this happening as it's too clean a resolution for us, and I can't imagine the Catholic schools would ever align themselves again with football in any capacity, notwithstanding our FBS program and the 3 FCS programs.

they'd be stupid to not want it - basketball would be enhanced too.

 

[Zissou]

Sorry if this was posted somwehere already but I can’t seem to find anything on it and this thread seems somewhat appropriate. Jay Bilas, during the Game Day broadcast last Saturday vs Villanova, said that the Big East may merge with the ACC. Is there merit to this or has he been throwing this out there for a while and it’s meh news? I don’t follow realignment closely but this is interesting for bball fans.

In the scenario of the ACC break-up and Duke, Wake, Pitt, Cuse and BC looking for a best fit (without P-2 options).

Here are 3 pods for hoops, adding JMU and Temple to get to 18. Play your own pod members twice and the other pods once. 22 game regular schedule.

Creighton, Marquette, DePaul, Butler, Xavier, Pitt

UConn, Providence, BC, Seton Hall, Cuse, St John’s

Nova, Georgetown, Temple, Duke, Wake, JMU

Football 9:
Pitt, UConn, BC, Cuse, Nova, Temple, Duke, Wake, JMU

Have 2 TV contracts, separated so basketball and football each bring their own value for proper member distribution.

 

[jostar1]

Sorry if this was posted somwehere already but I can’t seem to find anything on it and this thread seems somewhat appropriate. Jay Bilas, during the Game Day broadcast last Saturday vs Villanova, said that the Big East may merge with the ACC. Is there merit to this or has he been throwing this out there for a while and it’s meh news? I don’t follow realignment closely but this is interesting for bball fans.

Talk of Big East-ACC merger at 3:40.

 

[Ha Who]

they'd be stupid to not want it - basketball would be enhanced too.

People forget that it’s a business. What makes sense 10 years ago does not always make sense today.

 

[John]

In the scenario of the ACC break-up and Duke, Wake, Pitt, Cuse and BC looking for a best fit (without P-2 options).

Here are 3 pods for hoops, adding JMU and Temple to get to 18. Play your own pod members twice and the other pods once. 22 game regular schedule.

Creighton, Marquette, DePaul, Butler, Xavier, Pitt

UConn, Providence, BC, Seton Hall, Cuse, St John’s

Nova, Georgetown, Temple, Duke, Wake, JMU

Football 9:
Pitt, UConn, BC, Cuse, Nova, Temple, Duke, Wake, JMU

Have 2 TV contracts, separated so basketball and football each bring their own value for proper member distribution.

while things are in flux it'd be a great opportunity to dump dead weight like Depaul and Georgetown.

 

[whalerfan]

In the scenario of the ACC break-up and Duke, Wake, Pitt, Cuse and BC looking for a best fit (without P-2 options).

Here are 3 pods for hoops, adding JMU and Temple to get to 18. Play your own pod members twice and the other pods once. 22 game regular schedule.

Creighton, Marquette, DePaul, Butler, Xavier, Pitt

UConn, Providence, BC, Seton Hall, Cuse, St John’s

Nova, Georgetown, Temple, Duke, Wake, JMU

Football 9:
Pitt, UConn, BC, Cuse, Nova, Temple, Duke, Wake, JMU

Have 2 TV contracts, separated so basketball and football each bring their own value for proper member distribution.

Why in pretty much every post I see Georgia Tech is left out. They'll be left out of any SEC/B1G expansion.

 

[LetsGoUC]

In the scenario of the ACC break-up and Duke, Wake, Pitt, Cuse and BC looking for a best fit (without P-2 options).

Here are 3 pods for hoops, adding JMU and Temple to get to 18. Play your own pod members twice and the other pods once. 22 game regular schedule.

Creighton, Marquette, DePaul, Butler, Xavier, Pitt

UConn, Providence, BC, Seton Hall, Cuse, St John’s

Nova, Georgetown, Temple, Duke, Wake, JMU

Football 9:
Pitt, UConn, BC, Cuse, Nova, Temple, Duke, Wake, JMU

Have 2 TV contracts, separated so basketball and football each bring their own value for proper member distribution.

Where is Cal, Stanford, SMU?

 

[whalerfan]

Where is Cal, Stanford, SMU?

Pac 5 maybe.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

In the scenario of the ACC break-up and Duke, Wake, Pitt, Cuse and BC looking for a best fit (without P-2 options).

Here are 3 pods for hoops, adding JMU and Temple to get to 18. Play your own pod members twice and the other pods once. 22 game regular schedule.

Creighton, Marquette, DePaul, Butler, Xavier, Pitt

UConn, Providence, BC, Seton Hall, Cuse, St John’s

Nova, Georgetown, Temple, Duke, Wake, JMU

Football 9:
Pitt, UConn, BC, Cuse, Nova, Temple, Duke, Wake, JMU

Have 2 TV contracts, separated so basketball and football each bring their own value for proper member distribution.

No other industry expands by shrinking the addressable market like college sports does. If the ACC and Big East were going to merge, they should just merge

 

[Zissou]

No other industry expands by shrinking the addressable market like college sports does. If the ACC and Big East were going to merge, they should just merge

It’s not likely in their current forms. It’s more likely from necessity when the bigger programs turn on the conference.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

It’s not likely in their current forms. It’s more likely from necessity when the bigger programs turn on the conference.

The most likely outcome is that conferences will double down on linear cable broadcasting by picking off teams one at a time based on last year’s tv ratings because that is what the stupid do.

 

[Kolumbo]

In the scenario of the ACC break-up and Duke, Wake, Pitt, Cuse and BC looking for a best fit (without P-2 options).

Here are 3 pods for hoops, adding JMU and Temple to get to 18. Play your own pod members twice and the other pods once. 22 game regular schedule.

Creighton, Marquette, DePaul, Butler, Xavier, Pitt

UConn, Providence, BC, Seton Hall, Cuse, St John’s

Nova, Georgetown, Temple, Duke, Wake, JMU

Football 9:
Pitt, UConn, BC, Cuse, Nova, Temple, Duke, Wake, JMU

Have 2 TV contracts, separated so basketball and football each bring their own value for proper member distribution.

We've had the discussion of how the former Big East Football programs have been doing along with their basketball programs. It's not stellar.

We'll allow WVU, Cincy and Louisville back in. For a fee. Invite USF for old times sake. We'll even allow Rutgers refuge. These programs can play in a more regional football conference they actually have a chance of winning and granted it won't be P2 money but it will be better than flying to Texas all the time.

 

[Waquoit]

No other industry expands by shrinking the addressable market like college sports does. If the ACC and Big East were going to merge, they should just merge

Like Tuco said, "If have you to shoot, shoot. Don't talk".