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Watchdog said:
This Harvard study confirms it: According to their criteria Dan Hurley has six NBA caliber three point shooters on his team but doesn't know how to use them to win the league tournament or get by a 10 seed:
Polley
Jackson
Gaffney
Bouknight
Cole
Adams
Or maybe it's true that you can make the results of your hypothesis fit your bias going in.
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True and Harvard basketball's success is real world validation of the study.
 
mauconnfan said:
You still need to be able to shoot it somewhat I believe. Im just not sure Andre will ever be a good shooter, maybe just good enough to allow the rest of his game and athleticism to flourish but not really good. Wright recruits shooters who become even better shooters with practice and being around good shooters on the court. We need shooters without a doubt and as of now yikes!

I know this if we go into next year with Cole/Gaffney as our 1-2 it won't be pretty. We saw enough of that this year without success, only Bouk coming back gave us any glimmer of hope. I mean can they both improve enough to make this a worthy combo, I guess but I wouldn't bank on it for sure.
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So he recruits shooters and they pick up defense when they get there. Well, after recruiting a lot of long athletic types I guess Dan Hurley must be thinking shooters after the drought of scoring last year. He seems to have no problems getting talent so maybe just tweeking that for the next recruits/transfers. I know we have scoring deficiency on paper but if Akok can get up to 20-25 mins a game and add these freshman we are going to have a racehorse team with depth. Hoping Dan Hurley opens up the game with the rebounding we have. I have a feeling that it might take time ( of course) but if they train early and often they are going to be fun to watch.
Anyway, our future looks so much brighter than a few years ago. Love to watch the kids develop.
 
djct1999 said:
I guess the concern is consistency. We saw a few times last year when James struggled to score, how flat everyone else looked.
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For sure but there were games in 2019-20 when Bouknight disappeared for 50-75% of the game. Guys will step up.
 
UofCT said:
For sure but there were games in 2019-20 when Bouknight disappeared for 50-75% of the game. Guys will step up.
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Guys stepped up when he struggled but only because he was on the floor. He struggled because he was getting double teamed the defense was concerned about him so there was space for everyone. Who’s going to do that now without having someone the other teams worry about on the floor?
 
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djct1999 said:
Fair enough. Are you at all concerned about how we are going to score points? To me, the guy leaving opened things up offensively for everyone else. Without him, I am very concerned. Thats why I felt Richmond should have been a priority.
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Not really concerned about scoring, a bit concerned about not having a go to guy closer early on but I think the scoring will be covered by more people and roles will become defined. I envision next years team being far more versatile.
 
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A lot of people on here complained about CV and AG playing hero ball, as it has been called on here. But, why haven't many, if any, called Bouk out on it? He may have had a detrimental effect on the team offensively. It's hard to get engaged when one player is so ball dominant. I very well could be wrong and I'm sure that I'll hear about having a bad take, but it's just an opinion and I surely don't have any facts to back it up.
 
mauconnfan said:
Guys stepped up whenhe struggled but only because he was on the floor. He struggled because he was getting double teamed the defense was concerned about him so there was space for everyone. Who’s going to do that now without having someone the other teams worried about on the floor?
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If I had to guess Gaffney will get the opportunity to be the "guy" early on. I believe he will be the starting 2-guard to start the season and he can either run with it or get jumped by Hawkins and/or Jackson.
 
UCSouth said:
A lot of people on here complained about CV and AG playing hero ball, as it has been called on here. But, why haven't many, if any, called Bouk out on it? He may have had a detrimental effect on the team offensively. It's hard to get engaged when one player is so ball dominant. I very well could be wrong and I'm sure that I'll hear about having a bad take, but it's just an opinion and I surely don't have any facts to back it up.
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Because Bouk was on another level as a player, which I believe the other players also recognize.
 
UCSouth said:
A lot of people on here complained about CV and AG playing hero ball, as it has been called on here. But, why haven't many, if any, called Bouk out on it? He may have had a detrimental effect on the team offensively. It's hard to get engaged when one player is so ball dominant. I very well could be wrong and I'm sure that I'll hear about having a bad take, but it's just an opinion and I surely don't have any facts to back it up.
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1) Bouk was a pro.
2) We scored more with Bouk than without. There are stats to back that up. They showed them on the halftime report of every game when he came back/every selection show when they discussed UConn
 
MDHuskFan said:
1) Bouk was a pro.
2) We scored more with Bouk than without. There are stats to back that up. They showed them on the halftime report of every game when he came back/every selection show when they discussed UConn
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This is all well and good, but when Bouk was double and even triple teamed, could he have found an open teammate?
 
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Ant3411 said:
Whether we get Locke or not, I feel like Polley coming back would be a huge help. We need that 3 point threat - at minimum to open things up for the other guys on the floor.
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He’s not coming back.
 
ARIDE said:
If Polley doesnt come back maybe we want him! I like the guys coming in . Honestly he is nothing special! We need a 3 period!
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He is special. He has dominant in AAU he was probably the best guard on the UA circuit. He’s a phenomenal passer, can get to the rim too. He’s a similar play as Shabazz. He wasn’t used right at Florida. They used him almost exclusively as a 3 point threat because they didn’t have any other consistent 3 point shooters.
 
UCSouth said:
This is all well and good, but when Bouk was double and even triple teamed, could he have found an open teammate?
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Yes, and he did. That’s why we scored more points when he played in the games lol.
 
Huskymagic said:
The only transfers that were worthy of wasting time on were Kellan Grady and Kadary Richmond. They are both off the table. Every other amateur basketball mercenary is not worth wasting a scholarship on.

We need to be actively looking for a 5 star point guard. Dagger Trey Ty will be perimeter shooting answer. Hawk has some serious potential. I like what I see from him. He should be penciled in at the 2 as a starter.

#ReturnOfDaggerTreyTy
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Locke is much better than Grady and Richmond. The advanced offensive analytics on Locke are phenomenal. They’re better than Bouknight’s. Now I think Bouk is a better player but the numbers are there.

I don’t know where all this Louisville talk is coming from I haven’t heard anything. I don’t trust that kid Jake or whatever on social media he is a major Louisville homer. We are in the mix for Locke.
 
UcannUconn said:
Locke is much better than Grady and Richmond. The advanced offensive analytics on Locke are phenomenal. They’re better than Bouknight’s. Now I think Bouk is a better player but the numbers are there.

I don’t know where all this Louisville talk is coming from I haven’t heard anything. I don’t trust that kid Jake or whatever on social media he is a major Louisville homer. We are in the mix for Locke.
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Assume that we get Locke in the fold. Doesn't having him and Polley on the floor at the same time open up the lane for Sanogo or a guard to drive? Lets get 3 shooters... feelings be damned.
 
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UCSouth said:
Assume that we get Locke in the fold. Doesn't having him and Polley on the floor at the same time open up the lane for Sanogo or a guard to drive? Lets get 3 shooters... feelings be damned.
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Yea definitely. I don’t think Polley is coming back. His comment to me directly was “we’ll see man, but remember I will always Bleed Blue”.

If Locke decides to go to Louisville he would be making a major mistake. El Ellis is going to be one of the most Ball dominant guards in the ACC. He likes to dribble, can dish but prefers to try to beat the defender himself. Locke may find himself in another space creation/spot up shooter role.
 
UcannUconn said:
Yea definitely. I don’t think Polley is coming back. His comment to me directly was “we’ll see man, but remember I will always Bleed Blue”.
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Is his comment the reason why you’ve been so adamant that Polley’s not coming back, or is there something else?
 
UCSouth said:
This is all well and good, but when Bouk was double and even triple teamed, could he have found an open teammate?
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My response was regarding having a negative effect on the offense. I was just saying we rated better offensively with versus without him. Doesn’t mean he wasn’t without flaw
 
tcf15 said:
Is his comment the reason why you’ve been so adamant that Polley’s not coming back, or is there something else?
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I was told maybe 1 of the seniors will be back from a fairly reliable source. And Whaley is back. I just don’t forsee it man. We need a 3 point shooter who is multifaceted anyway.
 
UcannUconn said:
The advanced offensive analytics on Locke are phenomenal. They’re better than Bouknight’s. Now I think Bouk is a better player but the numbers are there.
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This is not even close to true. His plain offensive rating is pretty good, but you have to adjust that by usage (and it's adjusted on a curve, not linearly). Every analytic I look at (OBPR, OBPM, PORPAGATU, on/off net rtg, win shares/40, RAPM) has Locke as the 4th or so best player on his team last year and substantially behind Bouk.

His analytics are just fine. Polley neighborhood.
 
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UcannUconn said:
I was told maybe 1 of the seniors will be back from a fairly reliable source. And Whaley is back. I just don’t forsee it man. We need a 3 point shooter who is multifaceted anyway.
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Whaley was a big surprise. Polley was always thought to be more likely to come back than Whaley according to sources on here. Seems to be a lot of smoke towards a Polley return but it’s still probably not much more than 50/50 at this point.

Either way, we’d still welcome Locke or another shooter. I’m not completely sold on Locke but also am not too confident as to who are backup plan is...so by that token I hope we’re able to snag him. Not optimistic though.
 
Watchdog said:
This Harvard study confirms it: According to their criteria Dan Hurley has six NBA caliber three point shooters on his team but doesn't know how to use them to win the league tournament or get by a 10 seed:
Polley
Jackson
Gaffney
Bouknight
Cole
Adams
Or maybe it's true that you can make the results of your hypothesis fit your bias going in.
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Jackson? Lmao
 
Again, where are the Louisville rumors coming from? Their forum legit thinks they’re going to land every player they’re linked to. Yum is probably the 2nd most delusional forum(besides the Beihiem forum). Locke can go to any school he wants.
 
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