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Final 2019 Scholarship?

Candyman34 said:
David O was horrible. He was big and was foul proof who could not set a screen without moving. Whaley is much better. Sure he doesn't have the size but he has the length and he is now an upperclassman. I'm okay with Whaley as only back-up if we don't land Manuel.

People here have short term memories. Ollie was blasted for playing David O so much. Most screamed he should never played at all. Now folks want him on this years team as a back-up center.
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Thank you
 
I'm in the minority maybe - but if they're thin on bigs this year, then whatever. I'm so lazered in on them taking an actual step forward in 2020-2021... a backup center isn't going to be what keeps them out of the dance or helps them advance a round further.

I guess if I've learned anything from watching multiple rebuilds over the years, you don't just take guys to take guys or try like crazy to squeeze the most out of a team half full with guys you have to talk yourself into. Get the guys you want and recruit with purpose to build the team you want and think can put you on a path for sustained success.
 
fleudslipcon said:
It could look bad if Carleton is in foul trouble and Whaley is too small to stop an opposing big. Then fans will criticize Hurley for not getting a back up for Carleton. Take a rent a body for one year even if it’s only to push Carleton in practice.
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At this point and this is not a final judgement because the season is ahead, this is a fail for Hurley. He can’t get a backup center. All subject to change for sure, but as of today, and it’s getting late early.
 
Towney007 said:
I'm in the minority maybe - but if they're thin on bigs this year, then whatever. I'm so lazered in on them taking an actual step forward in 2020-2021... a backup center isn't going to be what keeps them out of the dance or helps them advance a round further.

I guess if I've learned anything from watching multiple rebuilds over the years, you don't just take guys to take guys or try like crazy to squeeze the most out of a team half full with guys you have to talk yourself into. Get the guys you want and recruit with purpose to build the team you want and think can put you on a path for sustained success.
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I have no interest in writing off this season. This team absolutely, positively should get an NCAA bid. It was a bubble team last year without the injuries and is much improved. People are way underrating UConn for 2019-20.

That said, I have enough confidence in Whaley to believe he can play 10-12 minutes a game at the 5. Very few opponents have big physical centers (USF aside). So I agree we shouldn't take some low level guy who consumes a scholarship for 2020-21, and we aren't. So it isn't an issue. If we get Manuel, that's ideal. He's a great fit as a 5 in Hurley's system and can help next year.
 
Another grad transfer is Chicago State's Patrick Szpir. Watching his 18/19 mixtape, the 6'9 230 Szpir is a post guy who does most of his damage within 5 feet, so he could be a good practice guy for Carlton and Whaley.

Last year's season averages are only 2.9p, 2.6r in 18.5 mpg, but he was relied on more later on in the season once Chicago's best post player was out for the season. In his last 7 games at Chicago State he averaged 7p, 4.1r in 30 mpg.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I have no interest in writing off this season. This team absolutely, positively should get an NCAA bid. It was a bubble team last year without the injuries and is much improved. People are way underrating UConn for 2019-20.

That said, I have enough confidence in Whaley to believe he can play 10-12 minutes a game at the 5. Very few opponents have big physical centers (USF aside). So I agree we shouldn't take some low level guy who consumes a scholarship for 2020-21, and we aren't. So it isn't an issue. If we get Manuel, that's ideal. He's a great fit as a 5 in Hurley's system and can help next year.
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I like Whaley but he's pretty thin, looks like he weighs 195.
 
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Kenny11 said:
Yes, Whaley is athletic and can make things happen. I think he's going to have a very good season.

I am the biggest Whaley supporter here and maybe his one true believer . Team Porkchop baby!
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Well good luck with that one when he fouls out in 5 minutes. Whaley is a nice kid with good energy but I haven't seen much from him to believe that he can really back up at the 5 in any significant way. Love to be proven wrong but it is sad he will be the only option off the bench besides putting Akok there and going smaller with Polley at the 4.
 
3rdbass said:
Why not use it on a grad transfer C-PF just for 5 fouls and bigger than Whaley? It won’t waste a scholarship for future years and will give us another big off the bench even if it’s just a big body.
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Makes sense but I dont think there are any
decent C-PF grad transfers available.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I have no interest in writing off this season. This team absolutely, positively should get an NCAA bid. It was a bubble team last year without the injuries and is much improved. People are way underrating UConn for 2019-20.

That said, I have enough confidence in Whaley to believe he can play 10-12 minutes a game at the 5. Very few opponents have big physical centers (USF aside). So I agree we shouldn't take some low level guy who consumes a scholarship for 2020-21, and we aren't. So it isn't an issue. If we get Manuel, that's ideal. He's a great fit as a 5 in Hurley's system and can help next year.
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I believe!
 
Kenny11 said:
Yes, Whaley is athletic and can make things happen. I think he's going to have a very good season.

I am the biggest Whaley supporter here and maybe his one true believer . Team Porkchop baby!
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I like Whaley as well. I recall a couple of games where Carleton was in foul trouble, Cobb strapped on his cement shoes, put in the game but benched quickly, then Whaley was put in only to pick up two quick fouls. Cobb was put back in and fortunately some of the cement was removed.

If Manuel is available almost everyone agrees we take him. If not you want a body to back up Whaley, but only if it’s a one year option if the kid is not Division 1 material.

Maybe Akok is the backup plan. Niels occasionally was put in that role. I still would prefer having a one year rent a body just in case. If the kid is unable to contribute he doesn’t play which ends up with the same result as a banked scholarship.
 
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fleudslipcon said:
I like Whaley as well. I recall a couple of games where Carleton was in foul trouble, Cobb strapped on his cement shoes, put in the game but benched quickly, then Whaley was put in only to pick up two quick fouls. Cobb was put back in and fortunately some of the cement was removed.

If Manuel is available almost everyone agrees we take him. If not you want a body to back up Whaley, but only if it’s a one year option if the kid is not Division 1 material.

Maybe Akok is the backup plan. Niels occasionally was put in that role. I still would prefer having a one year rent a body just in case. If the kid is unable to contribute he doesn’t play which ends up with the same result as a banked scholarship.
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A one year rent a body would be great if Manuel doesn't work out, but we won't know whether he works out until August, and by then there will be no one available (there is basically no one available now, in a month literally no one will be available). I think everyone agrees that a grad transfer big body is better than leaving the scholarship open, but that ship has sailed. Manuel or bust.
 
husky429 said:
Kenya is the coach to bang with.
He is built wide. Must be 230




If the staff thinks he can contribute, you take him of course. Two year commitment is relatively small anyways if he isn't great.
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Manuel? I believe he has 3 years if he comes here this summer? I could be wrong or thinking of someone else they were recruiting.
 
McLovin said:
Any news here? Wondering if with the move to the BE and all focus on making a statement in 2020, if the staff is going to eat the scholarship this year (baring a reclass of a 2020 prospect) to try and reel in an extra big fish for the 2020 class? At this point I would prefer us keep it to take a shot at landing an extra big time recruit for 2020, rather than a 3-star center for 2019... Wonder what y'all think?
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No comment. Sorry.
 
mauconnfan said:
Manuel? I believe he has 3 years if he comes here this summer? I could be wrong or thinking of someone else they were recruiting.
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You're right. Thinking of the wrong player
 
Towney007 said:
I'm in the minority maybe - but if they're thin on bigs this year, then whatever. I'm so lazered in on them taking an actual step forward in 2020-2021... a backup center isn't going to be what keeps them out of the dance or helps them advance a round further.
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Not sure we're in great shape with any elite centers in 20/21. Maybe end up with someone back half of top 100 at best. In that case, I think Manuel would be better for depth this year AND would be further along developmentally for the all-important 20/21 season with a similar ceiling.
 
auror said:
Not sure we're in great shape with any elite centers in 20/21. Maybe end up with someone back half of top 100 at best. In that case, I think Manuel would be better for depth this year AND would be further along developmentally for the all-important 20/21 season with a similar ceiling.
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We would be ELATED to land a top 100 4 star at center. I’m thinking fringe 150 type. Which is fine. Tennessee had one of the best teams in the country last year entirely comprised of 3 stars.
 
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Has Hurley / the staff explicitly said Akok won't be able to play the 5? I envision minutes each game where Akok slides to the 5 and Whaley plays the 4 if Carlton is out and we are against a big lineup.

Also hoping a kid gets his grades up this late into the recruitment so he can come play for us has to be a red flag about where the kids head is at... Knowing that he had a shot to play D1 ball, he couldn't focus enough to even do the bare minimum to qualify?
 
There is an article on Rivals with the headline basically saying he is staying in the `20 class and is building ties with UK. Appears to be an article from last week.
 
McLovin said:
Has Hurley / the staff explicitly said Akok won't be able to play the 5? I envision minutes each game where Akok slides to the 5 and Whaley plays the 4 if Carlton is out and we are against a big lineup.

Also hoping a kid gets his grades up this late into the recruitment so he can come play for us has to be a red flag about where the kids head is at... Knowing that he had a shot to play D1 ball, he couldn't focus enough to even do the bare minimum to qualify?
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If whaley and akok are in, whaley is at the 5
 
TheChamps990411 said:
There is an article on Rivals with the headline basically saying he is staying in the `20 class and is building ties with UK. Appears to be an article from last week.
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Who is “he” in this sentence? No quote so can’t tell.
 
husky429 said:
If whaley and akok are in, whaley is at the 5
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Wasn't sure about this at first but at 221 for Whaley, maybe. Akok is definitely pulling at least one big out the paint on offense and he's better off as a help defender right now using his reach to get a block.
 
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UcannUconn said:
We would be ELATED to land a top 100 4 star at center. I’m thinking fringe 150 type. Which is fine. Tennessee had one of the best teams in the country last year entirely comprised of 3 stars.
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Are you sure Schofield and Williams were only 3* coming out of high school?
 
gtcam said:
Are you sure Schofield and Williams were only 3* coming out of high school?
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Both were 3*, Williams was 191 on 247's composite and Schofield was 251
 
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