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Final 2019 Scholarship?

Keeping the scholarship open is probably better than filling it with a medicore guy. It seems like the Akok/Hamidou route is becoming much more popular. We don't want to have to deal with that "but there's no scholarship for him" headache again mid season if there is a guy heavily on our radar
 
Rico444 said:
Everything the insiders here have said makes it seem like we're going to take Manuel if he qualifies, and we'll bank the scholarship if he does not. I don't think there are any surprises here, unless something unexpected happens and a really talented kid becomes available out of nowhere.
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that is my guess also ...
 
husky429 said:
If we're back in play with higher quality 2020s because of the Bog East move, bank the scholly.

Stinks for this season. Unfair expectations for Carlton. But we'll be thankful when we have an extra high 4* on the roster rather than a stretch roster guy
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Why not use it on a grad transfer C-PF just for 5 fouls and bigger than Whaley? It won’t waste a scholarship for future years and will give us another big off the bench even if it’s just a big body.
 
3rdbass said:
Why not use it on a grad transfer C-PF just for 5 fouls and bigger than Whaley? It won’t waste a scholarship for future years and will give us another big off the bench even if it’s just a big body.
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Is there a grad transfer big available in July worth giving it to?
 
3rdbass said:
Why not use it on a grad transfer C-PF just for 5 fouls and bigger than Whaley? It won’t waste a scholarship for future years and will give us another big off the bench even if it’s just a big body.
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Is there anyone left? I don't know. If it was possible, definitely do that
 
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Marbles90 said:
I don't think they would have gone through the process to free up Diarra's scholarship if they didn't plan on trying to get someone for 2019.
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Marbles90 said:
Question: If this is true, could Manuel verbally commit or does his academic situation prevent him from doing that? I know he has had a history of decommits so maybe that is also holding him back?
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Can he verbally commit? Of course he can. He can say whatever he wants. He can verbally commit to Kentucky or the Knicks if he feels like it.

Would such a statement be meaningful? Of course not. Until he can become eligible for college next year, or be bound to follow through on his words, why the heck would anyone care what he tweets or tells an 19 year old who fancies himself a recruiting expert?
 
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uchusky32 said:
Is there a grad transfer big available in July worth giving it to?
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I think a David Onuorah type now would work and it seems from other reports that there are few of those around. I don't expect any big with talent to be left now. Just looking for someone with some legit size who can give us a few rebounds and 5 fouls. We will need it with only an undersized Whaley to back up Carlton.
 
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3rdbass said:
Why not use it on a grad transfer C-PF just for 5 fouls and bigger than Whaley? It won’t waste a scholarship for future years and will give us another big off the bench even if it’s just a big body.
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I don't think we've found one. For the record, I don't think Manuel would be a wasted scholarship in future years. He looks legit, and has the kind of mobility I think Hurley wants at the position.
 
3rdbass said:
We are just look for a David Onuorah type now. I don't expect any big with talent to be left now. Just looking for someone with some legit size who can give us a few rebounds and 5 fouls. We will need it with only an undersized Whaley to back up Carlton.
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Dead on. There is nothing to gain by having an empty roster spot as opposed to the best grad transfer big you can get. Even if the guy you get sucks, it becomes a useful extra big for practice.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I don't think we've found one. For the record, I don't think Manuel would be a wasted scholarship in future years. He looks legit, and has the kind of mobility I think Hurley wants at the position.
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Or the fact that you're not hearing about us looking means they are fairly confident Manuel will do what he needs to do to reach eligibility?
 
businesslawyer said:
Or the fact that you're not hearing about us looking means they are fairly confident Manuel will do what he needs to do to reach eligibility?
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Knock wood, but yeah. I get the sense he's ours if he qualifies and that Hurley would rather the chance of him than David O part II.
 
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husky429 said:
Is there anyone left? I don't know. If it was possible, definitely do that
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Not much.

Jethro Tshisumpa Mbiya is maybe the best available grad transfer center. Former top-100 recruit, but played last year in JUCO.

6'10 260 center who averaged 8.4p, 6.5r, 3.7b in 20.3 mpg for San Jacinto-Central last year.
 
We often leave out an important point in this discussion. We get to a few minutes and rebounds per game. I think it's important for Carlton to face a 6-10 230+ body everyday in practice. That kid can improve; and it ain't gonna be with Tom Moore covering him.
 
3rdbass said:
I think a David Onuorah type now would work and it seems from other reports that there are few of those around. I don't expect any big with talent to be left now. Just looking for someone with some legit size who can give us a few rebounds and 5 fouls. We will need it with only an undersized Whaley to back up Carlton.
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We're waiting on Manuel. If he gets the grades, he'll be a Husky next month. If he doesn't, we'll bank the scholarship.
 
Manuel will be the guy so long as he can figure out how to get his grades up. But if he doesn't reclassify, I think they're more than happy to bank that scholarship for the Big East debut season.
 
Matrim55 said:
We're waiting on Manuel. If he gets the grades, he'll be a Husky next month. If he doesn't, we'll bank the scholarship.
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We might have some big issues matching up with teams that have any semblance of an inside game as we just don't have the bodies or strength to match them without another additional big man. I don't see the harm in getting a David O. grad student type in here as he won't waste a scholarship and will give us a much needed big body. Hopefully we get Manuel and this whole discussion is moot.
 
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3rdbass said:
We might have some big issues matching up with teams that have any semblance of an inside game as we just don't have the bodies or strength to match them without another additional big man. I don't see the harm in getting a David O. grad student type in here as he won't waste a scholarship and will give us a much needed big body. Hopefully we get Manuel and this whole discussion is mute.
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[groan] :confused:
 
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I trust that Manuel is talented so if its him that's great. If not, hold the scholarship. No talent, no scholarship. Hurley has mentioned many times that his job is to increase the talent level in the program. A David O type decreases the talent level and makes us look bad.
 
Kenny11 said:
I trust that Manuel is talented so if its him that's great. If not, hold the scholarship. No talent, no scholarship. Hurley has mentioned many times that his job is to increase the talent level in the program. A David O type decreases the talent level and makes us look bad.
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So it is good to play Whaley against big teams? I would sure like a David O. who could at least keep his defensive position and rebound. Not a starter like KO used him but not a bad bench player.
 
Kenny11 said:
I trust that Manuel is talented so if its him that's great. If not, hold the scholarship. No talent, no scholarship. Hurley has mentioned many times that his job is to increase the talent level in the program. A David O type decreases the talent level and makes us look bad.
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It could look bad if Carleton is in foul trouble and Whaley is too small to stop an opposing big. Then fans will criticize Hurley for not getting a back up for Carleton. Take a rent a body for one year even if it’s only to push Carleton in practice.
 
David O was horrible. He was big and was foul proof who could not set a screen without moving. Whaley is much better. Sure he doesn't have the size but he has the length and he is now an upperclassman. I'm okay with Whaley as only back-up if we don't land Manuel.

People here have short term memories. Ollie was blasted for playing David O so much. Most screamed he should never played at all. Now folks want him on this years team as a back-up center.
 
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3rdbass said:
So it is good to play Whaley against big teams? I would sure like a David O. who could at least keep his defensive position and rebound. Not a starter like KO used him but not a bad bench player.
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Yes, Whaley is athletic and can make things happen. I think he's going to have a very good season.

I am the biggest Whaley supporter here and maybe his one true believer . Team Porkchop baby!
 
Would be nice to find a last 2nd Grad transfer big (a serviceable one this time) that can give us some rebounds (minimal, nothing less) in the paint... and a few put backs...
 
husky429 said:
If we're back in play with higher quality 2020s because of the Bog East move, bank the scholly.

Stinks for this season. Unfair expectations for Carlton. But we'll be thankful when we have an extra high 4* on the roster rather than a stretch roster guy
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Big East will help with recruiting a lot but there’s no guarantee it’s going to be a windfall and we start landing high end 4 Stars every year. You absolutely take Manuel if he’s eligible. He was JUCO all American, We need depth at the 5 immediately.
 
ktuck911 said:
Would be nice to find a last 2nd Grad transfer big (a serviceable one this time) that can give us some rebounds (minimal, nothing less) in the paint... and a few put backs...
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Nothing at all is available. Not even guys who aren’t serviceable.
 
Pudge said:
We often leave out an important point in this discussion. We get to a few minutes and rebounds per game. I think it's important for Carlton to face a 6-10 230+ body everyday in practice. That kid can improve; and it ain't gonna be with Tom Moore covering him.
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Kenya is the coach to bang with.
He is built wide. Must be 230


UcannUconn said:
Big East will help with recruiting a lot but there’s no guarantee it’s going to be a windfall and we start landing high end 4 Stars every year. You absolutely take Manuel if he’s eligible. He was JUCO all American, We need depth at the 5 immediately.
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If the staff thinks he can contribute, you take him of course. Two year commitment is relatively small anyways if he isn't great.
 
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