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upstater said:
It's nationwide. This generation (10-18s) has the smallest size in a generation. The presentation I saw showed that a lot of schools in different parts of the country will be in danger of filling seats, but in the northeast, we are maintaining.
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It makes complete sense in this changing world. Fewer and fewer people want to be parents. The prime child producing aged people (myself included) are waiting longer and longer to have children.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I know the arguments the NFL is making. None of them make football any safer. Good luck maintaining youth numbers in a sport that destroys kids bodies and scrambles their brains.
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Some people will agree with you on football and others will not. Some parents will force their kids to opt out and others won't. The numbers don't indicate an imminent collapse in football, so it will be around for a while, probably a long while.

If you haven't seen a youth football practice recently, check it out as it is totally different than when I played youth football. There is very little hitting and tackling of other kids, but there is tackling instruction and drills.
 
I’m not an expert on CTE by any stretch, but I think what makes football so dangerous, and sets it apart from the other sports, is the number of sub concussive events to which a player is exposed. Even in practice, you have OLs, RBs, DLs and LBs colliding with one another, DBs jamming wide receivers, on every play from scrimmage. Little collisions are THE GAME, not just a part of it. You cannot say that about Soccer or even Hockey.
 
Study: CTE found in people with no history of contact sports

>>However, a new study of eight men released earlier this week featured in Sports Medicine Research shows that CTE had been found in six of those subjects, who had no history of contact sports or history of neurotrauma. While the sample size is certainly small and more testing will be needed to draw a more definitive conclusion, the results will be very interesting to football coaches and other coaches of contact sports.<<

>>From the research:

“The authors found that 75% of the small case series met the neuropathological criteria for CTE, but none of the men had a known history of participation in contact sports or had a history of multiple concussions. This is important because some researchers have asserted that CTE is a pathology that only afflicts those involved in contact sports; however, CTE may affect those with neurodegenerative diseases or drug addictions.”<<
 
Don't ever fool yourself that hockey does not include many sub concussive events...with every hard check there is a possibilty of the brain moving inside the skull.

The fact that there are twice as many youth concussions per opportunity in hockey than football is a data point that only folks anxious to 86 football ignore.

Hockey goes first....if safety is really an aim.
 
billybud said:
Don't ever fool yourself that hockey does not include many sub concussive events...with every hard check there is a possibilty of the brain moving inside the skull.

The fact that there are twice as many youth concussions per opportunity in hockey than football is a data point that only folks anxious to 86 football ignore.

Hockey goes first....if safety is really an aim.
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Hockey can easily get around these problems though, whereas football can't. Hockey can move to no-checking. Can football move to no-tackling?
 
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Hockey without checking would be like 7 on 7 football...

I can watch 7 on 7...but it ain't football.
 
You can have soccer without being allowed to go aloft and head...maybe soccer changes less.
 
billybud said:
Hockey without checking would be like 7 on 7 football...

I can watch 7 on 7...but it ain't football.
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There is already no checking hockey in the youth game. It looks like hockey. Without checking. You can do it. Not that hard. It is definitely hockey.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I know the arguments the NFL is making. None of them make football any safer. Good luck maintaining youth numbers in a sport that destroys kids bodies and scrambles their brains.
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Science and rule changes will work to make football safer. It's America's passion and it generates a lot of money, so it isn't going anywhere.
 
I suspect that hockey and football will both attempt to provide safety changes...it may or may not be enough to save the sports long term.

But I'll be dead and buried in my grave before football as we lnow it, is unrecognizable.
 
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Fishy said:
Why would the Big Ten pay $55,000,000 for Kansas?

There are 500,000 cable households in Kansas - the Big Ten would be lighting money on fire.

If you're going to overpay for a dreadful market, might as well pick off Oklahoma instead.
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LOL. Some people just don't get it.

What's the population of Nebraska? A, doesn't matter. But by all means keep on thinking that way.

KU is the next piece of the puzzle, and if given the choice they will chose B1G over Big 12 or SEC. I don't know about OU.

The bottom line is I expect KU, OU, and UT to leave in the next few years. And KU will be going to the B1G in spite of your opinions on cable sub numbers.

Keep up the fine work.
 
No one is paying $55,000,000 for Kansas.

The SEC would light the southeastern United States on fire before they invited Kansas.

In today's cable market, Nebraska doesn't even get an invite to the Big 10, but there has never been a cable market where the Big Ten decides it makes sense to invite Kansas. At least Nebraska has some cache as a football legacy whereas Kansas has been a punchline.

And again, the demo is pure dreck - it's a dinky flyover state with no recruiting significance.
 
Andrew Luck retires. But football is no more dangerous than soccer?
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Andrew Luck retires. But football is no more dangerous than soccer?
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Did he retire due to concussions or is his injury similar to what ends the career of baseball pitchers?
 
noeynox said:
Did he retire due to concussions or is his injury similar to what ends the career of baseball pitchers?
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He is just as retired. Some backup linebacker from the Ravens retired yesterday too. And this:


But football is no more dangerous than girls soccer. Or something.

BTW, the girls soccer concussion rates are misleading. Girls soccer players can play 40-50 or more games a year. Football plays 10-11.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
He is just as retired. Some backup linebacker from the Ravens retired yesterday too. And this:


But football is no more dangerous than girls soccer. Or something.

BTW, the girls soccer concussion rates are misleading. Girls soccer players can play 40-50 or more games a year. Football plays 10-11.
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Its a full contact sport, so broken bones and torn ligaments are just part of it. You get those in other sports as well.. The real issue is the concussion aspect. Football is taking measures to reduce the frequency of this happening. It will always happen even with the precautions. Like everything else, if you choose to do it, there are risks involved. I remember Kevin Ware coming down from a jump shot and suffering the nastiest compound fracture i ever saw on TV.

I don't think one player retiring due to injury is indicative of anything. I would say football by the sheer nature of bodies colliding will have more injuries than other sports but an injury is an injury regardless of which sport it happens in.
 
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noeynox said:
I would say football by the sheer nature of bodies colliding will have more injuries than other sports
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With both players getting a full head steam up before the collision. The impacts in pro football in particular are jaw dropping. That's part of the reason the game is so popular.
 
CL82 said:
With both players getting a full head steam up before the collision. The impacts in pro football in particular are jaw dropping. That's part of the reason the game is so popular.
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I mean no one playing these days can make the claim they didn't know of the long term consequences. It's not just the brain injuries. Bodies pay a price. Luck is proof of that. So is Gronkowski. Conversely you get guys who play 15 years like Brady and Eli and Brees.
 
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