EPL season thread

[whaler11]

Was looking for somewhere to complain about the no penalty call against Arsenal in the 8th minute of the WBA match. What a crock.

 

[whaler11]

Arsenal getting the Duke whistle.

Up 1-0 off a bogus foul instead of down 1-0.

 

[whaler11]

This game may be fixed. My lord what a joke on the non call in the 22nd minute.

Shouldered a guy to the ground with no whistle.

 

[SAMCRO]

terrible no-call when Rodriguez got taken down in the box. WBA should have gone to the break at worst 1-1, of not up 2-1 Arsenal had an amazing clearance late 1st half on the header... unreal.

 

[whaler11]

terrible no-call when Rodriguez got taken down in the box. WBA should have gone to the break at worst 1-1, of not up 2-1 Arsenal had an amazing clearance late 1st half on the header... unreal.

And then they gave Arsenal a marginal penalty. Total joke.

They don't have enough advantages - they need every call too I guess.

 

[shizzle787]

This is more like the Arsenal crying thread.

 

[ZooCougar]

And then they gave Arsenal a marginal penalty. Total joke.

They don't have enough advantages - they need every call too I guess.

They need all the help they can get to finish 7th.

 

[HuskyGooner124]

Mustafi should've been called for a penalty, no doubt about it. Dude needs to learn to stay on his feet. But the foul call before Arsenal's first goal was not "bogus", Elneny passed the ball and then Evans took him out, that's a foul everyday. I am not sure what non call you're referring to in the 22nd minute, but Ramsey was hip checked out of bounds with Nyom not even trying to go for the ball and you call it a marginal penalty? He should make an attempt on the ball next time. Arsenal definitely got lucky yesterday, between calls going their way and good chances that West Brom created, including this ridiculous Monreal goal line clearance: Great Nacho Monreal goal-line clearance

 

[Waquoit]

The Albion Derby race is tightening up. West Brom only one point clear.

 

[meyers7]

Wah wah. Yea he could have called the Penalty on Mustafi. But they did get two cracks at the goal on that play. Arsenal didn't get any cracks at goal on the non call when Sanchez was taken down in the box (the shirt pull). Krychowiak was lucky to still be on the pitch at the end of the game after what should have been a 2nd yellow. Foul on Ramsey would have been a foul anywhere else on the pitch. So complain all you want, it was still a foul. And Sanchez, though he went down easy, was fouled before the freekick.

West Brom was unlucky not to score with the chances they created. Some last ditch defending by Arsenal (it gets old - you're using 3 CB's for a reason, so why is Koscielny up by WBA's 18 yard box in the run of play????).

But overall, Arsenal should have gotten the 3 points.

 

[whaler11]

Wah wah. Yea he could have called the Penalty on Mustafi. But they did get two cracks at the goal on that play. Arsenal didn't get any cracks at goal on the non call when Sanchez was taken down in the box (the shirt pull). Krychowiak was lucky to still be on the pitch at the end of the game after what should have been a 2nd yellow. Foul on Ramsey would have been a foul anywhere else on the pitch. So complain all you want, it was still a foul. And Sanchez, though he went down easy, was fouled before the freekick.

West Brom was unlucky not to score with the chances they created. Some last ditch defending by Arsenal (it gets old - you're using 3 CB's for a reason, so why is Koscielny up by WBA's 18 yard box in the run of play????).

But overall, Arsenal should have gotten the 3 points.

Could have?

The referee was the number one trending topic on twitter for a reason.

If it was 1-0 like it should have been tell me some more about how Aresnal should have gotten the three points.

All that money and all those calls to finish a distance 7th. Congrats.

 

[whaler11]

There is literally no argument that a shirt tug or Nyom's bump is a penalty in a game when Rodriguez got assaulted for no call.

1-0 with Aresenal down to 10 men is 100x more legitimate than any claim Arsenal deserved any penalty call.

 

[meyers7]

Could have?

Yea, could have? Did I stutter? Instead he gave them 2 shots at goal.

If it was 1-0 like it should have been tell me some more about how Arsenal should have gotten the three points.

He calls both penalties for Arsenal. 2-1 at that point.

All that money and all those calls to finish a distance 7th. Congrats.

All that money? You obviously know nothing about Arsenal. And when has Arsenal ever finished 7th in the EPL??? We hadn't finished out of the top 4 in 20 years until last season when we finished 5th, 1 pt out of 4th.

Transfer money the last 5 years

Man City - £723M
ManU - £611M
Chelsea - £544M
Liverpool -£396M
Tottenham - £329M
Arsenal - £298M


All those calls??

EPL Penalties Called (1992-2017)

Arsenal - 78 For / 64 Against +12
Chelsea - 85/41 +44
ManU - 82/41 +41
Man City - 86/51 +35
Liverpool - 90/55 +45
Tottenham - 69/62 +7

Wake up buttercup and do a little research before running your mouth off.

 

[meyers7]

There is literally no argument that a shirt tug or Nyom's bump is a penalty in a game when Rodriguez got assaulted for no call.

1-0 with Aresenal down to 10 men is 100x more legitimate than any claim Arsenal deserved any penalty call.

Here you go again. How did they get down to 10 men?

 

[whaler11]

Here you go again. How did they get down to 10 men?

The red that could have been given on the first penalty. Duh.

The officiating was an absolute joke.

Wow only +12? WBA hasn't gotten a penalty call in over a year buttercup. Won't someone think of the poor disadvantaged clubs like Arsenal?

I referee was the #1 topic on twitter because he did such a darn good job.

The game was giftwrapped - stop trying to pretend it was anything else because it's ridiculous.

 

[meyers7]

The red that could have been given on the first penalty. Duh.

Red for what? DOGSO? (I assume that's where you are going, even though you probably don't have a clue, obviously - but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.)

Ok, here we go. 1) you can't give a DOGSO red card when the team actually gets 2 goal scoring opportunities. 2) with FIFA's new interpretation of DOGSO, since Mustafi was making an attempt to play the ball (poorly granted), it would actually be a yellow. DUH

Wow only +12? WBA hasn't gotten a penalty call in over a year buttercup. Won't someone think of the poor disadvantaged clubs like Arsenal?

Geez. Like fish in a barrel.

Last season
Arsenal - 6 for / 10 against -4
WBA - 1 for / 3 against -2

How much you guys paying the refs????

I referee was the #1 topic on twitter because he did such a darn good job.

Well at least we know where you are getting all your "knowledge".

 

[whaler11]

Red for what? DOGSO? (I assume that's where you are going, even though you probably don't have a clue, obviously - but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.)

Ok, here we go. 1) you can't give a DOGSO red card when the team actually gets 2 goal scoring opportunities. 2) with FIFA's new interpretation of DOGSO, since Mustafi was making an attempt to play the ball (poorly granted), it would actually be a yellow. DUH


Geez. Like fish in a barrel.

Last season
Arsenal - 6 for / 10 against -4
WBA - 1 for / 3 against -2

How much you guys paying the refs????



Well at least we know where you are getting all your "knowledge".

Yeah the whole world is wrong. Not the Arsenal partisans.

Comedy.

 

[meyers7]

Yeah the whole world is wrong. Not the Arsenal partisans.

Comedy.

Just show me where I'm wrong.

 

[whaler11]

Just show me where I'm wrong.

Every single non-Arsenal supporter in the world knows it was a penalty.

Not thinks - knows.

So you got your gift and got your points. Maybe be grateful instead of quadrupling down on such stupidity.

 

[Waquoit]

Hey whaler, when did you turn into upstater?

 

[meyers7]

Every single non-Arsenal supporter in the world knows it was a penalty.

Not thinks - knows.

So you got your gift and got your points. Maybe be grateful instead of quadrupling down on such stupidity.

I said the ref could have called it. i.e. it was penalty worthy. But so where the two for Arsenal. Only one was called though. And on the one not called for WBA, they got still got 2 goal scoring opportunities, while on the one not called for Arsenal, they did not. Mustafi would have, if the foul had been called, received a YC. Krychowiak should have received a 2nd YC and a send off. So if the ref had called everything correctly, Arsenal wins 3-1 and WBA plays with 10 men for the last part of the 2nd half. And Arsenal probably puts another on in. So if you want to play "what if", Arsenal wins 4-1 and you lose Krychowiak for another game. You are better off losing 0-2 and keeping Krychowiak for your next game.

So yea, if you want to whine about the ref, sure he made some mistakes, BUT WBA is the one who was handed the gifts.

So again, please explain where I'm wrong. Besides, Twitter says or everybody says. See if you can actually come up with something on your own.

 

[whaler11]

I said the ref could have called it. i.e. it was penalty worthy. But so where the two for Arsenal. Only one was called though. And on the one not called for WBA, they got still got 2 goal scoring opportunities, while on the one not called for Arsenal, they did not. Mustafi would have, if the foul had been called, received a YC. Krychowiak should have received a 2nd YC and a send off. So if the ref had called everything correctly, Arsenal wins 3-1 and WBA plays with 10 men for the last part of the 2nd half. And Arsenal probably puts another on in. So if you want to play "what if", Arsenal wins 4-1 and you lose Krychowiak for another game. You are better off losing 0-2 and keeping Krychowiak for your next game.

So yea, if you want to whine about the ref, sure he made some mistakes, BUT WBA is the one who was handed the gifts.

So again, please explain where I'm wrong. Besides, Twitter says or everybody says. See if you can actually come up with something on your own.

This is total and complete nonsense.

You support clowns like Sanchez being rewarded for diving while honest players like Rodriguez are disadvantaged. What a tremendous fan you are - great for the game. Maybe they can start awarding penalties everytime an Arensal jersey is tugged.

Rest easy you and Wegner are right - the entire rest of the world is wrong. It's by definition 100% wrong to assume the game plays out the same way if the correct call is made in the 8th minute. Maybe consider the fact that everything that happened afterwards is dependent on that missed call.

There are few things better than women's board posters when they try and enter the general population. It never gets old.

Clearly you are right - everyone else is wrong and if WBA went up 1-0 in the 8th minute everything that happened after would have been exactly the same.

 

[meyers7]

This is total and complete nonsense.

You support clowns like Sanchez being rewarded for diving while honest players like Rodriguez are disadvantaged. What a tremendous fan you are - great for the game. Maybe they can start awarding penalties everytime an Arensal jersey is tugged.

Rest easy you and Wegner are right - the entire rest of the world is wrong. It's by definition 100% wrong to assume the game plays out the same way if the correct call is made in the 8th minute. Maybe consider the fact that everything that happened afterwards is dependent on that missed call.

There are few things better than women's board posters when they try and enter the general population. It never gets old.

Clearly you are right - everyone else is wrong and if WBA went up 1-0 in the 8th minute everything that happened after would have been exactly the same.

So you can't tell me where I was wrong. Ok got it. You just like to whine.

 

[whaler11]

So you can't tell me where I was wrong. Ok got it. You just like to whine.

Penalties are judgment calls. Obviously there isn't anyway to prove someone 'wrong' buttercup that's why you keep repeating it. It's an impossible standard.

The proof you are 'wrong' is that every sentient being on the planet except Wegner and Aresenal supporters agree that you are wrong. Wow the people who were advantaged by a ridiculouly bad call don't think it's a bad call.

If it's whining to point out Albion's chance at a good result was stolen by the referee in the 8th minute then sure I'm whining.

It's better than being an obtuse fool who wants to ignore reality.

 

[meyers7]

Penalties are judgment calls. Obviously there isn't anyway to prove someone 'wrong' buttercup that's why you keep repeating it. It's an impossible standard.

The proof you are 'wrong' is that every sentient being on the planet except Wegner and Aresenal supporters agree that you are wrong. Wow the people who were advantaged by a ridiculouly bad call don't think it's a bad call.

If it's whining to point out Albion's chance at a good result was stolen by the referee in the 8th minute then sure I'm whining.

It's better than being an obtuse fool who wants to ignore reality.

Well like I said, if you want every call to be correct, the score would be at least 3-1, probably 4-1 and your player missing for the next game. If that's what you want, it seems pretty stupid to me.

So let me get this straight, you're whining and complaining because the 1 call that went against you changed everything and you guys would have won, however the 2 calls that would have went against you....well they don't matter, we're not even gonna talk about them, they would have no effect on the outcome at all. And somehow you are calling me a "homer"??? I do think thou protests too much.

 

[whaler11]

Well like I said, if you want every call to be correct, the score would be at least 3-1, probably 4-1 and your player missing for the next game. If that's what you want, it seems pretty stupid to me.

So let me get this straight, you're whining and complaining because the 1 call that went against you changed everything and you guys would have won, however the 2 calls that would have went against you....well they don't matter, we're not even gonna talk about them, they would have no effect on the outcome at all. And somehow you are calling me a "homer"??? I do think thou protests too much.

You are conflating the non-call in the 8th with the non-call of a jersey tug that gets ignored hundreds of times a season and then concluding something as dopey as see one bad call each.

Listen lots of sports fans have no ability to be objective - the only shame is a complete lack or self-awareness.

To you it's good for floppers to be rewarded and honest players disadvantaged as long as it helps your club. Again lots of other sports fans care about their club/team over the legitimacy of the result - and like you few own in.

 

[meyers7]

You are conflating the non-call in the 8th with the non-call of a jersey tug that gets ignored hundreds of times a season and then concluding something as dopey as see one bad call each.

If you want all the fouls called, then you have to live with the consequences. Seems you don't like that. You only want the fouls called that benefit your team.

Listen lots of sports fans have no ability to be objective

You don't say. I will definitely agree with you on this.

To you it's good for floppers to be rewarded

Where did floppers enter into this??? We are talking about Mustafi's foul, foul on Ramsey, foul on Sanchez and Krychiak's foul (that should have been a 2nd YC).

 

[whaler11]

If you want all the fouls called, then you have to live with the consequences. Seems you don't like that. You only want the fouls called that benefit your team.


You don't say. I will definitely agree with you on this.


Where did floppers enter into this??? We are talking about Mustafi's foul, foul on Ramsey, foul on Sanchez and Krychiak's foul (that should have been a 2nd YC).

I want the fouls called. Correctly. Regardless of whom they are on.

Do you not understand that if the penalty is correctly given in the 8th minute that the rest of the game would have been different?

Everything that happened afterwards was conditional on the first missed call?

 

[meyers7]

I want the fouls called. Correctly. Regardless of whom they are on.

Well there you go 3/4-1 and your guy is out next game. That's what I've been saying.

Do you not understand that if the penalty is correctly given in the 8th minute that the rest of the game would have been different?

Everything that happened afterwards was conditional on the first missed call?

Sure, you want to play what if? So you know maybe you get two guys sent off and Arsenal wins 10-1. That would have been different.

We can make stuff up or just deal with what actually happened. Since it doesn't benefit you, you would rather dwell in fantasy land. I get that.

All this whining isn't gonna change the outcome.

 

[whaler11]

Well there you go 3/4-1 and your guy is out next game. That's what I've been saying.


Sure, you want to play what if? So you know maybe you get two guys sent off and Arsenal wins 10-1. That would have been different.

We can make stuff up or just deal with what actually happened. Since it doesn't benefit you, you would rather dwell in fantasy land. I get that.

All this whining isn't gonna change the outcome.

So you don't get the concept of conditional events. Kewl.