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huskyrob1 said:
Yeah right, tell that to the NBA's all time leading scorer, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, or Wilt Chamberlain who scored 102 points in one game, or Kevin Garnett, or Tim Duncan, or Shaq, or Ewing, or Moses Malone, or Bill Walton. Defense is of course important, but offense and the ability to score is what wins championships, be it basketball, Football, or baseball. Get a clue.
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That's a good point, everyone remembers that famous phrase "Offense wins championships"
 
huskyrob1 said:
Yeah right, tell that to the NBA's all time leading scorer, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, or Wilt Chamberlain who scored 102 points in one game, or Kevin Garnett, or Tim Duncan, or Shaq, or Ewing, or Moses Malone, or Bill Walton. Defense is of course important, but offense and the ability to score is what wins championships, be it basketball, Football, or baseball. Get a clue.
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There is no one set way to win a title. Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl as a starting QB. The Rams both won and lost a Super Bowl as offensive juggernauts.
 
huskyrob1 said:
Yeah right, tell that to the NBA's all time leading scorer, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, or Wilt Chamberlain who scored 102 points in one game, or Kevin Garnett, or Tim Duncan, or Shaq, or Ewing, or Moses Malone, or Bill Walton. Defense is of course important, but offense and the ability to score is what wins championships, be it basketball, Football, or baseball. Get a clue.
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Lol yeah let's compare a 19 year old kid to hall of famers. Okwandu, nolan, and olander were our bigs and we won't two championships, why? Because our defense was great and we had great guard play. You need competent big men. Having studs would be great obviously but if you can get a center who can get 8-8 that's good enough if you surround him with talent. Great guard play wins championships. Get a clue
 
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champs99and04 said:
No, he's right. You listing guys like Garnett, Ewing, and Duncan kind of proves his point. Some of those guys played before the three point line, by the way.
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Sure you have to be good on both ends of the floor, but offense trumps defense every time. The most points wins the game, not the most rebounds, or the most shot blocks, and in a close game what matters more down the stretch, rebounds and blocks or free throws?
 
huskyrob1 said:
Yeah right, tell that to the NBA's all time leading scorer, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, or Wilt Chamberlain who scored 102 points in one game, or Kevin Garnett, or Tim Duncan, or Shaq, or Ewing, or Moses Malone, or Bill Walton. Defense is of course important, but offense and the ability to score is what wins championships, be it basketball, Football, or baseball. Get a clue.
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Dude, this isn't the NBA. Nothing like it actually. Defense and guard play dominate the college game. See 2014. And 2011. And many other non uconn examples..

That's the formula. Especially in this day and age with watered down play. Notice all those guys you posted are generations past? Gimme the two best guards in the tournament, a great defense, and I'm winning the NC more often than not.

Oh, and most of those guys were great defensive players as well.

If offense is the key, why does the number one offense so rarely win it all (in most sports)? Hi Atlanta. Hi golden state. Hi Boston red Sox. . And that was just last year!
 
methodology said:
You just named great defensive players who were also great offensive players. Defense wins championships and pitching wins world series.

Get a clue
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Strike outs don't count in the run column, only crossing home plate does. GET A CLUE!!!
 
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huskyrob1 said:
Sure you have to be good on both ends of the floor, but offense trumps defense every time. The most points wins the game, not the most rebounds, or the most shot blocks, and in a close game what matters more down the stretch, rebounds and blocks or free throws?
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the other team cant win if they cant score... also look at kansas this year lucas is averaging 8 and 8... guard play
 
You know when your defense is getting sliced up and torn to tatters, you need something to bind it and put it back together. Get a glue! Guy, get a glue guy to hold an offense in check, duh, get a clue!
 
huskyrob1 said:
Strike outs don't count in the run column, only crossing home plate does. GET A CLUE!!!
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lol you troll very well bc strikeouts do count in the run column bc the strikeouts means the other team isnt scoring so it does shou up in the run column
 
Remember when UConn got run out of the gym because they only scored 53 points in a championship game? If only their offense was better...
 
Mano said:
You know when your defense is getting sliced up and torn to tatters, you need something to bind it and put it back together. Get a glue! Guy, get a glue guy to hold an offense in check, duh, get a clue!
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Yeah right, was Bob Diaco canned because his defense sucked or because his offense and play calling didn't score a touchdown in like 12 quarters? Good defense helps, good pitching helps, but if you can't score you're going no where.
 
huskyrob1 said:
Sure you have to be good on both ends of the floor, but offense trumps defense every time. The most points wins the game, not the most rebounds, or the most shot blocks, and in a close game what matters more down the stretch, rebounds and blocks or free throws?
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Defense is literally the act of preventing points. You're talking yourself into a circle.

Both ends of the court are very important, let's just leave it at that.
 
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lavuuk153 said:
Remember when UConn got run out of the gym because they only scored 53 points in a championship game? If only their offense was better...
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Remember when the UCONN women only scored 60 points or less in a game, and won by 30? I can't. 110 wins and counting.
 
champs99and04 said:
Defense is literally the act of preventing points. You're talking yourself into a circle.

Both ends of the court are very important, let's just leave it at that.
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You're the one arguing in circles, you just refuse to admit that to win you must devise an offense that can beat the defense. But ok let's leave it at that.
 
huskyrob1 said:
You're the one arguing in circles, you just refuse to admit that to win you must devise an offense that can beat the defense. But ok let's leave it at that.
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I literally just pointed out UConn won a title easily while only scoring 53 points because they just dominated on defense. Just stop digging a bigger hole.
 
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huskyrob1 said:
Sure you have to be good on both ends of the floor, but offense trumps defense every time. The most points wins the game, not the most rebounds, or the most shot blocks, and in a close game what matters more down the stretch, rebounds and blocks or free throws?
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It's funny because this is almost never true. Heck, in baseball, it seems 99/100 it's pitching and defense that wins it normally. The number 1 offense doesn't usually win it.

NFL
2000 - Greatest Show On Turf goes down to the pats D
2001 - Ravens D drags Dilfer to title
2002 - Sapp, Lynch, Brooks, Rice and Tampa Bay D take down offensive minded oakland
2003/2004 - balanced pats, but the D was better.
2005 - balanced pitt
2006 - finally offense wins one! Manning.
2007 - best offense I've ever seen mauled by Giants D
2008 - balanced steelers
2009 - offense wins again! (nb: 2 offense-based teams) NO
2010 - balanced Packers vs balanced steelers
2011 - balanced Ravens riding defensive resurgence
2012 - there's that giants D again
2013 - nasty Seahawks D kills offensive juggernaut broncos
2014 - Balance vs balance
2015 - dominant Broncos D carries the day.
2016 - historical Atlanta O goes down

Notice a trend?
 
huskyrob1 said:
Yeah right, tell that to the NBA's all time leading scorer, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, or Wilt Chamberlain who scored 102 points in one game, or Kevin Garnett, or Tim Duncan, or Shaq, or Ewing, or Moses Malone, or Bill Walton. Defense is of course important, but offense and the ability to score is what wins championships, be it basketball, Football, or baseball. Get a clue.
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But if you want to keep it strictly NBA, Bill Russell's for easy more championships than all those guys.

And what was his calling card?
 
huskyrob1 said:
Remember when the UCONN women only scored 60 points or less in a game, and won by 30? I can't. 110 wins and counting.
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They traditionally have one of, if not the, best defenses in the country. Genos calling card.
 
methodology said:
You just named great defensive players who were also great offensive players. Defense wins championships and pitching wins world series.

Get a clue
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Defense does not win championships, offense does. The greatest defensive front in the history of the NFL was the Philadelphia Eagles with Reggie White, the great Jerome Brown, and Clyde Simmons. I still remember watching them push teams up and down the field, but that great defense as great as it was never won a Superbowl. In baseball the greatest 4 man pitching rotation ever was Tom Seaver, Jerry Koosman, John Matlack, and Nolan Ryan, but those four did not win the world series that year.
 
huskyrob1 said:
Defense does not win championships, offense does. The greatest defensive front in the history of the NFL was the Philadelphia Eagles with Reggie White, the great Jerome Brown, and Clyde Simmons. I still remember watching them push teams up and down the field, but that great defense as great as it was never won a Superbowl. In baseball the greatest 4 man pitching rotation ever was Tom Seaver, Jerry Koosman, John Matlack, and Nolan Ryan, but those four did not win the world series that year.
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lol no. The greatest NFL defenses ever were the 85 bears, 2015 broncos and the 2000 ravens and they all won the superbowl.
 
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huskyrob1 said:
Defense does not win championships, offense does. The greatest defensive front in the history of the NFL was the Philadelphia Eagles with Reggie White, the great Jerome Brown, and Clyde Simmons. I still remember watching them push teams up and down the field, but that great defense as great as it was never won a Superbowl. In baseball the greatest 4 man pitching rotation ever was Tom Seaver, Jerry Koosman, John Matlack, and Nolan Ryan, but those four did not win the world series that year.
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Thank you for proving you know less than nothing about baseball. That staff isn't even a top 20 staff of all time and not even the greatest mets pitching staff. The 86 mets was their best staff followed by the 88 mets. And guess what that 86 team won the world series.

You are a fool. Thanks for the laughs tonight
 
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methodology said:
Thank you for proving you no less than nothing about baseball. That staff isn't even a top 20 staff of all time and not even the greatest mets pitching staff. The 86 mets was their best staff followed by the 88 mets. And guess what that 86 team won the world series.

You are a fool. Thanks for the laughs tonight
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Give up, ok jerk?
 
huskyrob1 said:
Defense does not win championships, offense does. The greatest defensive front in the history of the NFL was the Philadelphia Eagles with Reggie White, the great Jerome Brown, and Clyde Simmons. I still remember watching them push teams up and down the field, but that great defense as great as it was never won a Superbowl. In baseball the greatest 4 man pitching rotation ever was Tom Seaver, Jerry Koosman, John Matlack, and Nolan Ryan, but those four did not win the world series that year.
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The Mets won a World Series in 69 with an OPS+ of 84 which is well below average. Stop putting Ryan in there like he was anything special while on the Mets.
 
JMick said:
lol no. The greatest NFL defenses ever were the 85 bears, 2015 broncos and the 2000 ravens and they all won the superbowl.
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That Eagles defense was better, they just didn't have an offense that could score points.
 
huskyrob1 said:
That Eagles defense was better, they just didn't have an offense that could score points.
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lol no it wasn't. not even close. you are quite possibly the only person that believes that.
 
lavuuk153 said:
The Mets won a World Series in 69 with an OPS+ of 84 which is well below average. Stop putting Ryan in there like he was anything special while on the Mets.
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My father still has nightmares of the Orioles losing that series.

That orioles staff ('71 with the 4 20 game winners is one of the greatest 2 staffs of all time)
 
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