Ending of UCLA/ IOWA Game: Bad UCONN Memory

[jaydee602]

IOWA was tied with UCLA in the final seconds of the game. UCLA had the ball & they set a pick play. Lucy Olsen tripped over the picker's extended leg into the ball handler. A foul was called on Lucy & UCLA sunk the free throws to win the game.
Many pundits on social media insisted that the pick was illegal because a leg was extended leading to the trip. Of course, they compared it to the controversial foul call on Alliyah Edwards at the end of last season's Final Four game, claiming that UCLA's pick was more blatant than UCONN's pick.
The conclusion was that these calls are arbitrary & inconsistent, depending on the referee.

 

[BBallF]

IOWA was tied with UCLA in the final seconds of the game. UCLA had the ball & they set a pick play. Lucy Olsen tripped over the picker's extended leg into the ball handler. A foul was called on Lucy & UCLA sunk the free throws to win the game.
Many pundits on social media insisted that the pick was illegal because a leg was extended leading to the trip. Of course, they compared it to the controversial foul call on Alliyah Edwards at the end of last season's Final Four game, claiming that UCLA's pick was more blatant than UCONN's pick.
The conclusion was that these calls are arbitrary & inconsistent, depending on the referee.

If the leg moved it's a foul on the picker.

 

[BBallF]

I just watched it. She moved her leg into Olsen. Awful call. It was either a no call or an offensive foul.

 

[HuskyNan]

If the leg moved it's a foul on the picker.

It’s also an illegal screen if the feet are wider than shoulder width

 

[jaydee602]

It’s also an illegal screen if the feet are wider than shoulder width

 

[Zonepress]

U r 100 percent correct!!

 

[Bone Dog]

Yeah, that looked like a mistaken call. I’m not sure I’d compare it to the call against Aaliyah last year. The initial replays from last season’s game made it look like a ticky-tack foul. But later replays from other angles showed it to be a moving screen and not a mistaken call.

 

[Urshurak]

It was an illegal screen.

 

[TheGOAT23]

It’s also an illegal screen if the feet are wider than shoulder width

Exactly! That’s a pregame stretch.

 

[hookshot]

Yeah, that looked like a mistaken call. I’m not sure I’d compare it to the call against Aaliyah last year. The initial replays from last season’s game made it look like a ticky-tack foul. But later replays from other angles showed it to be a moving screen and not a mistaken call.

Once they missed the obsevation / call on an illegal UCLA screen (which they did, how ironic} then they pretty much had to make the more obvious call on Olson’s non defensive position causing the second trip- up. Bottom line? Agree, Refs blew it.

 

[oldhusky]

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Wow this picture makes it very clear. The game is over, but I wonder if controversy over this call will affect voters in the poll. Instead of a win is a win, they may view this more as a gift to UCLA than any kind of accomplishment. Considering the margin was expected to be much greater anyway, I think this game should hurt UCLA's standings in the polls.

 

[jaydee602]

Wow this picture makes it very clear. The game is over, but I wonder if controversy over this call will affect voters in the poll. Instead of a win is a win, they may view this more as a gift to UCLA than any kind of accomplishment. Considering the margin was expected to be much greater anyway, I think this game should hurt UCLA's standings in the polls.

It might have hurt UCLA's ranking, but Notre Dame's loss probasbly gives them a mulligan.
And Texas could be unanimous #1.

 

[Forego]

Exactly! That’s a pregame stretch.

Also looks like a foal standing up for the first time.

 

[Plebe]

Wow this picture makes it very clear. The game is over, but I wonder if controversy over this call will affect voters in the poll. Instead of a win is a win, they may view this more as a gift to UCLA than any kind of accomplishment. Considering the margin was expected to be much greater anyway, I think this game should hurt UCLA's standings in the polls.

How would it hurt their poll ranking? They came in at #3. Would they drop below #4 USC, who lost at Iowa? In any event, ND lost and so will likely drop a couple spots at least.

 

[Ralph]

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She just has really wide shoulders, about 5 feet wide. Clear to see. Are you blind?

 

[jake0414]

As depicted in the photo the screener Angela Dugalic sets an illegal screen. Viewed from the opposite side in the Peacock stream it appears the photo posted has been edited. Dugalic does not extend her right leg in the manner shown in the grainy photo. That’s not to say Dugalic shouldn’t have been called for an illegal pick but the official on the sideline below the play has a straight on view and chose not to call an offensive foul.

Also in the photo above the official disappeared and two gentlemen in white and gray shirts appear in place of the three women in the video screenshot standing behind the official. Doctored photo.

 

[Bone Dog]

As depicted in the photo the screener Angela Dugalic sets an illegal screen. Viewed from the opposite side in the Peacock stream it appears the photo posted has been edited. Dugalic does not extend her right leg in the manner shown in the grainy photo. That’s not to say Dugalic shouldn’t have been called for an illegal pick but the official on the sideline below the play has a straight on view and chose not to call an offensive foul.

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This doesn't suggest an edited photo to me. Also, these pics show even more clearly that it was a moving screen. I'm as surprised as you that the official behind the play didn't call it. I know, it's a bang-bang play, etc. But it's really bad to end a game like this on the free throw line. I'd think the refs would have swallowed the whistle rather than go as far as to award game deciding free throws.

 

[Bigboote]

She just has really wide shoulders, about 5 feet wide. Clear to see. Are you blind?

I think they just confused units. The shoulders are about three axe-handles wide. The feet are three axe-handles apart. But the axe handles used to measure the shoulders are hatchets, and those used for the feet are those you might see in a lumberjack competition.

 

[YKCornelius]

This doesn't suggest an edited photo to me. Also, these pics show even more clearly that it was a moving screen. I'm as surprised as you that the official behind the play didn't call it. I know, it's a bang-bang play, etc. But it's really bad to end a game like this on the free throw line. I'd think the refs would have swallowed the whistle rather than go as far as to award game deciding free throws.

Completely agree, Bone Dog, that it doesn't appear that the photo is edited at all. Placement of the feet and the hands of all three players appears to be congruent with other photos and the replay. Also agree that it is a bang-bang play, and doubly agree that it is a really bad thing to end the game on a dubious call.

Not a strong showing by this referee crew. Both calls on Kiki Rice in the last minute were eyebrow-raising as well.

 

[donalddoowop]

If the leg moved it's a foul on the picker.

She moved her hip also. That should have been obvious to at least one of the officials.

 

[Bone Dog]

Completely agree, Bone Dog, that it doesn't appear that the photo is edited at all. Placement of the feet and the hands of all three players appears to be congruent with other photos and the replay. Also agree that it is a bang-bang play, and doubly agree that it is a really bad thing to end the game on a dubious call.

Not a strong showing by this referee crew. Both calls on Kiki Rice in the last minute were eyebrow-raising as well.

Yup. It is reminiscent of the end of the UConn-Baylor elite eight game 4 years ago. Dijonnai Carrington, who was a great midrange shooter, elected to drive directly into Aaliyah and Liv for a contested layup rather than take the wide open 10 footer. She was hoping for a whistle and the refs didn't give it to her. Kim was outraged on the sidelines afterwards. But to me it just looked like bad coaching. This was how she'd taught her players to play and they got burned by it. Refs don't like to decide games for the players.

But in the Iowa-UCLA game, the refs couldn't resist inserting themselves into a close game in the final seconds. No whistle and the game probably goes to OT. That's not a disaster. But this ending was.

 

[jaydee602]

Yeah, that looked like a mistaken call. I’m not sure I’d compare it to the call against Aaliyah last year. The initial replays from last season’s game made it look like a ticky-tack foul. But later replays from other angles showed it to be a moving screen and not a mistaken call.

I guess my question is, "How many refs would have called that foul on Alliyah for the illegal pick?" These refs seemed to ignore a moving screen & many refs wouldn't call that foul in the last seconds.

 

[Rowdy831]

How would it hurt their poll ranking? They came in at #3. Would they drop below #4 USC, who lost at Iowa? In any event, ND lost and so will likely drop a couple spots at least.

USC did beat UCLA in their head to head

 

[Plebe]

USC did beat UCLA in their head to head

And yet they were (and still are) ranked ahead of them.

 

[Rowdy831]

Bad calls and missed calls happen throughout the game. In the end if you let the opponent have the chance to win on a bad call it could happen. In this instance it was a tough call but at least Iowa still have time to get a good shot off to force overtime or win the game. That particular call is so inconsistent your chances are 50/50 for the refs to get it right.

 

[Rowdy831]

And yet they were (and still are) ranked ahead of them.

yep

 

[The deacon]

Yup. It is reminiscent of the end of the UConn-Baylor elite eight game 4 years ago. Dijonnai Carrington, who was a great midrange shooter, elected to drive directly into Aaliyah and Liv for a contested layup rather than take the wide open 10 footer. She was hoping for a whistle and the refs didn't give it to her. Kim was outraged on the sidelines afterwards. But to me it just looked like bad coaching. This was how she'd taught her players to play and they got burned by it. Refs don't like to decide games for the players.

Agreed, Bone Dog, about the coaching aspect of that Carrington play, and no tears shed here for Mulkey. Yet the reality of that play was that both Aaliyah and Liv fouled Carrington, and the Huskies skated to victory (thankfully). In truth, in perhaps trying to let the players decide the game, the refs decided the outcome anyway.

Other posters have been focusing on how the Iowa/UCLA game might affect UCLA in the polls... think how the game's result might have done in the Hawkeyes' tournament hopes.

 

[BBallF]

It’s also an illegal screen if the feet are wider than shoulder width

They definitely were.

 

[BBallF]

She moved her hip also. That should have been obvious to one of the officials.

It was obvious. He was looking right at it. What was also obvious was Olsen tripping into the other player. That's what he called.

 

[Bone Dog]

Other posters have been focusing on how the Iowa/UCLA game might affect UCLA in the polls... think how the game's result might have done in the Hawkeyes' tournament hopes.

It looks like it might not hurt Iowa's hopes at all, at least going by the AP rankings which are not directly relevant. It might even help them, since they got 2 votes this time around, up 2 from last week.