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intlzncster said:
What does Cincy look like this year? If you've already done a synopsis somewhere, point me to it.
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Cincy looks like a better version of last year's group. They return 8 of their top 9, including Caupain & Ellis - two guys who are All-AAC caliber.

They will be one of the nation's best rebounding teams, and will protect the rim at an elite level thanks to Ellis & Clarke. They'll draw a ton of fouls, and they are deep up front and in the back court (not so much on the wing). Three-point shooting is a concern, but they do make their free throws.

I think they're legitimate national title contenders, and wouldn't be at all shocked if they swept us this year. They're really, really good.
 
BUHusky said:
USF lost to Troy
Tulane lost to Alabama A&M
Temple got killed by UNC (expected of course)

East Carolina squeaked by Grambling
Cincy beat up West Carolina

The bottom half of the AAC is going to decimate UConn's RPI. Not that we didn't all know that anyway... Ugh.
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We are DOOOOOOOoooooooooomed!!!!!!
 
The conference will always be a problem - not even worth worrying about anymore.

The only programs I think you will be able to count on yearly going forward are UConn and Cincy.

The rest is an unappealing muddle of muck. Hopefully, some of them will be passable at one time or another.
 
We played one team that was not so much untalented as young.
Less talented teams with experience are dangerous early in the season.
Young teams not so much.
That team was unable to dictate pace at all.
Since we really didn't shoot that well especially from the Three
(Forget % when ,it was inflated by the easy back doors and fast break points)
A more talented team will try and get us to slow down, how well we respond in a half court will determine our success.
We passed well, and shared well,but I want to see what we do when someone packs the defense,and makes an effort to take away the fast break,by playing a shoot and get back strategy.
Basketball is not as simple as it looked against Maine.
Play the games one at a time .
 
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Cincy's offense sucked last year, but all of the returning players should improve, and Jacob Evans should help. I think they're definitely good enough to be a second-weekend team.
 
Big games for Memphis (#8 Oklahoma) and Tulsa (#10 Witchia State) tomorrow night. Both are at home. These are the types of games the league needs to win early in the season to get recognized.
 
CallMeBruce said:
Cincy's offense sucked last year, but all of the returning players should improve, and Jacob Evans should help. I think they're definitely good enough to be a second-weekend team.
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Averaging 101.5 points through 2 games. Last year we only scored 80+ two times. Right now KenPom has us at #11. If we can maintain a top 50 offense, I agree that we are a Sweet 16 team. Without a standout sure fire NBA guy it is tough to get past there.
 
kobe said:
Averaging 101.5 points through 2 games. Last year we only scored 80+ two times. Right now KenPom has us at #11. If we can maintain a top 50 offense, I agree that we are a Sweet 16 team. Without a standout sure fire NBA guy it is tough to get past there.
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By February we'll all be talking about Caupain as a first-round draft pick.
 
Matrim55 said:
By February we'll all be talking about Caupain as a first-round draft pick.
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I don't see it at all, very solid player all around but I don't see much of a high ceiling there.
 
aceboon said:
I don't see it at all, very solid player all around but I don't see much of a high ceiling there.
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He's a 19-year-old junior, 6-foot-4 with a 6-foot-7 wingspan who gets to the line a ton, makes his foul shots and hit 41% from beyond the arc last year. His box +/- of 5.2 was excellent, and all the defensive metrics love him.

The one worry is his turnovers, but that's more a worry for Cincy than for NBA scouts since young PGs with a high turnover rate actually tend to translate well to the league as they mature -- provided they have the requisite physical characteristics, which Caupain does.

Look, I hate the kid. He's a punk. But he's absolutely going to be in the league, and given the way he's passed up his own offense in order to facilitate for the guys around him in the first two games of the season, my guess is he's starting to really put it together as a true point guard.
 
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Matrim55 said:
He's a 19-year-old junior, 6-foot-4 with a 6-foot-7 wingspan who gets to the line a ton, makes his foul shots and hit 41% from beyond the arc last year. His box +/- of 5.2 was excellent, and all the defensive metrics love him.

The one worry is his turnovers, but that's more a worry for Cincy than for NBA scouts since young PGs with a high turnover rate actually tend to translate well to the league as they mature -- provided they have the requisite physical characteristics, which Caupain does.

Look, I hate the kid. He's a punk. But he's absolutely going to be in the league, and given the way he's passed up his own offense in order to facilitate for the guys around him in the first two games of the season, my guess is he's starting to really put it together as a true point guard.
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He isn't a good shooter nor is he a good athlete. Not saying players like that haven't made the league, but i would be extremely shocked if people are talking about him as a first round pick
 
Matrim55 said:
He's a 19-year-old junior, 6-foot-4 with a 6-foot-7 wingspan who gets to the line a ton, makes his foul shots and hit 41% from beyond the arc last year. His box +/- of 5.2 was excellent, and all the defensive metrics love him.

The one worry is his turnovers, but that's more a worry for Cincy than for NBA scouts since young PGs with a high turnover rate actually tend to translate well to the league as they mature -- provided they have the requisite physical characteristics, which Caupain does.

Look, I hate the kid. He's a punk. But he's absolutely going to be in the league, and given the way he's passed up his own offense in order to facilitate for the guys around him in the first two games of the season, my guess is he's starting to really put it together as a true point guard.
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He's kind of the opposite of a punk. His problem is he isn't assertive enough on the floor and is too content passing up the ball especially with the shot clock winding down. That was his glaring weakness last year. He's got the talent and this year has more help.
 
kobe said:
He's kind of the opposite of a punk. His problem is he isn't assertive enough on the floor and is too content passing up the ball especially with the shot clock winding down. That was his glaring weakness last year. He's got the talent and this year has more help.
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"Punk" is in reference to his attitude and cockiness on the court as observed by our fans.
 
Yeah, Caupain can ball, but I would love to see him get hit with a water balloon full of cat pee. He's a punk because he's the kind of player who tries to provoke opponents and then cries like a bitch to the ref when it works.
 
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CallMeBruce said:
Yeah, Caupain can ball, but I would love to see him get hit with a water balloon full of cat pee. He's a punk because he's the kind of player who tries to provoke opponents and then cries like a bitch to the ref when it works.
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I'm so glad you wrote this, how do you get your cat pee into the balloon? I haven't found an elegant solution yet.
 
The bottom of the league is awful.

Houston, ECU and Temple may be decent to good.

But the top half of this conference is going to be an absolute dogfight.

Tulsa & Memphis look better than anticipated. UConn, Cincy and SMU are going to battle.

Memphis fought Oklahoma hard but just blew the last minute.

Tulsa just beat Wichita St.

This conference has a strong top 5.
 
Dedric Lawson might be our Daniel Hamilton at Memphis. Kid is just a freshman and put up 25 and 13 against Oklahoma. This Memphis teams plays tough this year and that is step 1 into winning back some of the Memphians
 
TigerJ said:
Dedric Lawson might be our Daniel Hamilton at Memphis. Kid is just a freshman and put up 25 and 13 against Oklahoma. This Memphis teams plays tough this year and that is step 1 into winning back some of the Memphians
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You better watch out or Pastner may be signed to a new contract.
 
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upstater said:
You better watch out or Pastner may be signed to a new contract.
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Naw Pastner is going to TCU if he has a great year. Damon is going to be our new coach. Guard play is night and day since Damon came back.
 
TigerJ said:
Naw Pastner is going to TCU if he has a great year. Damon is going to be our new coach. Guard play is night and day since Damon came back.
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Was impressed with D Law and Memphis overall but you guys still haven't learned how to close a game and thats on Pastner. Should have closed the deal tonight.
 
OkaForPrez said:
Was impressed with D Law and Memphis overall but you guys still haven't learned how to close a game and thats on Pastner. Should have closed the deal tonight.
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I am not a Pastner fan but he had zero to do with us losing in the last minute. Players shoot free throws and they missed tonight. Wish it was Tarrant shooting FTs instead of our bigs at the end. The freshmen played above expectations in a game against a number 8 team. Plus asking a bunch of freshmen to be game closer in game 2 of their careers is unrealistic unless you are Kentucky or Duke.

Either way this team is very fun to watch and will surprise people and would not be surprised if we beat Ohio State in a few weeks
 
Even with Memphis losing, it was a very good day for the league. Memphis played a top ten team to the wire, Tulsa beat a top ten team and UConn blew out its opponent. Looks like there will be at least 5 decent teams this year.
 
Cincy absolutely smoked Bowling Green on the road. That's actually a really nice win - Bowling Green's better than New Hampshire and playing away in a bandbox gym is never easy.

What's scary about Cincy right now is that they're making shots. Cobb, Caupain, the two new kids (Evans & Jenifer), and even Shaq Thomas are hitting 3s. They're averaging over 90 ppg, scoring at all three levels and are still protecting the hell out of the paint. Plus they're a legit 10 deep.

I know it's still early, but I think they're as good as any team I've seen this year.
 
It's likely I'm the only one who's big enough a degenerate to be watching this, but SMU is putting on a ball movement clinic @ Stanford right now. It seems like all their field goals are assisted.

Stanford is pretty bad, but I'm not sure there's a tougher, better-drilled team right now than SMU.
 
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