East Carolina OOC Schedule

[ECU]

Well if Dooley confirmed it...
Yes, the West brothers do good work with their Garner Road program you're right about that

I heard it straight from the horses mouth. I had heard it before but after Kansas won the nation title over Memphis in 2008, Dooley was on the radio locally and was asked about him and confirmed he had commited. Dooley also signed Evladas Jocys as well with David West and would have had him coming back as well who was the biggest recruit we ever signed (top 40). Dooley had some injury bad luck, Jocys was our best player and missed a third of Dooley's last year giving the AD that didn't hire him an excuse to fire him after a 13-14 record. It's the what could have been entering into old CUSA too. Crazy we get a second chance with Dooley.

 

[Tuna]

Win/Loss record has nothing to do with whether or not we were an afterthought and it has nothing to do with whether or not moving to the Big East is a good decision

Win/loss record has everything to do with whether or not we were an afterthought.

 

[MattMang23]

Regardless I'll gladly take a 7 footer that's 255lb built like Dwight Howard hitting step back NBA 3's and with multiple 5+ three point games and that has to jump about 6 inches to dunk the ball with his 7-5 wingspan. These guys don't grow on trees and there is a reason 20+ P5 schools offered him.



We've never had a 7 footer like this.

Dude can hit 6+ threes in a game like this , multiple times. You space him out and give Gardner room to work in the paint and we are on to something. That's a serious 1/2 combo for the next 3 years.

 

[Guapo]

Win/loss record has everything to do with whether or not we were an afterthought.

Nope, sorry. Its the same idea as even when the Yankees or Red Sox are bad, it’s still a big deal when they come town.

 

[Pudge]

So what do you want ECU to do? Schedule UNC DUKE NC State, Auburn, TCU? This is the problem with all these silly rating systems. Teams ought to focus on scheduling for success. It would be absolutely stupid for ECU to schedule the same way we do. PAL is absolutely right, too. Get used to lots of 25 win seasons and first weekend ousters. When we were last in the Big East teams like Providence St Johns and Seton Hall were doormats. Now they make the tourney. It ain’t because they suddenly got so much better. The competition is just much weaker. But you know, MSG BABY. Much like Clemson results in folks badly over valuing ACC football Villanova causes them to do the same with Big East basketball. One excellent team and a bunch of midgets in both cases. But then again MSG BABY, MSG...

Wrong

Seton Hall & Providence are better. Georgetown May rise.

That’s a false narrative. The Big East Fanbase & Universities just care about Hoop more than the AAC.

 

[pepband99]

The OOC is horrific yes, but I think you would have a hard time arguing we aren't trending in the right direction moving forward with Jayden Gardner for 3 more years, a staff of Dooley, Chillious, and Roccaforte, and an unprecedented 11 new player recruiting class.

Dooley had options, turned down Rhode Island after we paid him 200k more, Roccaforte left a top 25 Virginia Tech as their top assistant to be our 3rd assistant last summer. That's a really good staff and it seems to have paid off getting guys like Charles Coleman right in your back yard this spring who you guys, Duke and tons of other big schools wanted.

I don't think we are going to be a drag on the conference anymore and I expect we should be favored perhaps all of those games (#53 Liberty at home is the toss up I think), and possibly should win nearly all of them which will mitigate some of it's honorificness.

Wrong.

The whole point of this thread is no matter your record (Within reason), coaching, players, swag, whatever - this OOC schedule kills the metrics of the whole conference. It shouldn't be permitted in a conference that touts itself as power-anything.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

C-Coleman 7-0, 255 Fr…Wake Forest decommit
F Gardner…6-7, 235 So…#1 highest PER returning in the AAC
F-Baruiti 6-7, 225 Jr…Washington transfer
G-Jackson 6-2, 215. Jr…Virginia Tech transfer
G-Robinson 6-1, 195 So…#7 ranked JUCO On 247

Leday- 6-7, 215 Sr…5th highest returning PER in the AAC, Virginia Tech transfer

We got three 7 footers on the roster. We also have 4th 7 footer UConn was recruiting as well that wanted to commit this year we got to Prep a year in D. Quansah commited for next year. Coleman averaged 6.1 blocks and has multiple games of 5+ 3pointers made in games on his highlights. He's going to fit well with Gardner.

Coleman

Quansah

We’ve seen a lot of P5 transfers roll through our football program. Typically you see quickly why they drop down a peg.

 

[Dooooooomed]

I can't decide whether Memphis or ECU is gonna win the league this year.

 

[ECU]

Wrong.

The whole point of this thread is no matter your record (Within reason), coaching, players, swag, whatever - this OOC schedule kills the metrics of the whole conference. It shouldn't be permitted in a conference that touts itself as power-anything.

Sure, and I said it's horrific and indefensible and I hope we don't see one like this again. Dooley has talked about wanting to play 5 P5 or high RPI/NET teams a year. That said if we go something like 11-2 or better which I think is very possible and everyone should be expected with a schedule this bad it will at least be mitigated to some degree by success.

Winning matters a lot in the equation too as well as how bad you beat teams now with NET. We just need to go out and beat them all by 10 points and this is mostly a non issue. I think we have the team that has a chance to get close to that now.

 

[MattMang23]

We are literally discussing the possible outcome of a basketball game being played between Eastern Carolina State College (which is in the same state as Coastal Carolina University, right?) and the University of Maryland, Eastern Shore. July 1, 2020 can not come fast enough.

 

[ECU]

We’ve seen a lot of P5 transfers roll through our football program. Typically you see quickly why they drop down a peg.

Basketball recruiting accuracy is a better than football recruiting. Typically if you get a player transfering down from somewhere like Virginia Tech to ECU at least he's probably going to be pretty good for us. LeDay was very good last year for example when he wasn't in Dooley's doghouse. Another thing is guys like LeDay, Jackson, and Baruiti all went to high level JUCO's after they were at Virginia Tech and Washington and performed well there as well. There have been some reports Baruiti is outplaying Gardner in practices.

 

[KingAG]

Eastern Carolina......lmaoo. I didn’t know they had a D1 basketball program until they joined the AAC. I can’t wait to go back to not knowing they exist. We’re talking about ECU!(I’m my AI practice voice)lmao

 

[MattMang23]

Eastern Carolina.lmaoo. I didn’t know they had a D1 basketball program until they joined the AAC. I can’t wait to go back to not knowing they exist. We’re talking about ECU!(I’m my AI practice voice)lmao

They do! Very prestigious program, in fact. They once almost had David West play for them and they boast household names Blue Edwards, Jonathan Kerner and Oliver Mack (not to be confused with Husky alum Oliver Macklin) among their most successful alumni.

 

[ECU]

They do! Very prestigious program, in fact. They once almost had David West play for them and they boast household names Blue Edwards and Jonathan Kerner among their most successful alumni.

Mentioning D. West seems relevant because it's the same head coach we have now. I was just giving some context about how he was fired. Kerner (who played a little in the NBA) was actually injuried his senior year or Dooley would have won the CAA that year. That was a good team that got shafted out of an NIT regardless that beat a top 15 St Joe's that went to the Sweet 16. It's just another example of the poor injury luck he had.

 

[ECU]

Eastern Carolina.lmaoo. I didn’t know they had a D1 basketball program until they joined the AAC. I can’t wait to go back to not knowing they exist. We’re talking about ECU!(I’m my AI practice voice)lmao

We'll that reward does come at a great cost to your football program. I think our basketball has potiental much like your football program did. The fact is your football team had already done some noteworthy things so giving up on it has to stink on some level as a fan. It's not exactly all roses and candy I bet.

As bad as we've been in basketball the 25 years I watched I'm still very hopeful we can turn it around at least and I think we have the people in place to do it now. Your football however is going to be kind of hard to do from the FCS if McMurhpy is right about that being where you are heading.

 

[KingAG]

We'll that reward does come at a great cost to your football program. I think our basketball has potiental much like your football program did. The fact is your football team had already done some noteworthy things so giving up on it has to stink on some level as a fan. It's not exactly all roses and candy I bet.

As bad as we've been in basketball the 25 years I watched I'm still very hopeful we can turn it around at least and I think we have the people in place to do it now. Your football however is going to be kind of hard to do from the FCS if McMurhpy is right about that being where you are heading.

I don’t give a damn. I want the football team to do well, but if they don’t I don’t lose sleep

 

[HuskyAlum012]

Regardless I'll gladly take a 7 footer that's 255lb built like Dwight Howard hitting step back NBA 3's and with multiple 5+ three point games and that has to jump about 6 inches to dunk the ball with his 7-5 wingspan. These guys don't grow on trees and there is a reason 20+ P5 schools offered him.



We've never had a 7 footer like this.

Dude can hit 6+ threes in a game like this , multiple times. You space him out and give Gardner room to work in the paint and we are on to something. That's a serious 1/2 combo for the next 3 years.

That stroke is absolutely awful. You think the coach is even going to let him attempt anymore of those in real games?

 

[ECU]

That stroke is absolutely awful. You think the coach is even going to let him attempt anymore of those in real games?

Seriously? Who cares what it looks like if it goes in. Yes I absolutely think he will have the greenlight to shoot 3's. He made like 50 3's on his highlight video's and many were of the difficult variety NBA range off the dribble, stepback, side step etc. He showed a lot of versatility in his jumper.

Someone told him to let it fly even when he could just dominate around the basket while barely jumping.

He's a high level prospect and he fits perfectly with Gardner who can use the space under the basket.

 

[HuskyAlum012]

Seriously? Who cares what it looks like if it goes in. Yes I absolutely think he will have the greenlight to shoot 3's. He made like 50 3's on his highlight video's and many were of the difficult variety NBA range off the dribble, stepback, side step etc.

Multiple games he was dropping 5+ threes so someone told him to let it fly even when he could just dominate around the basket while barely jumping.

He's a high level prospect and he fits perfectly with Gardner who can use the space under the basket.

Lol yea, dominate 6'2" kids around the basket, definitely will be able to do that in the college game! Him bullying #0 in the bottom video was my favorite highlight!

 

[ECU]

Lol yea, dominate 6'2" kids around the basket, definitely will be able to do that in the college game! Him bullying #0 in the bottom video was my favorite highlight!

There are 10 minutes of highlights from AAU, with plenty of big guys he was sticking it too as well. I just thought that camera angle really showed how and long massive he is. If he's under the basket he's probably going to dunk on most players or shooting an open 3's these aren't shots he wont be able to get at this level.

He's not a great athlete but he is highly skilled for a guy with that size.

Here is is putting it on the floor here and shaking here on another big guy. There is a lot to work with.

 

[kobe]

dude give a rest . no one has time or energy to argue with some random ecu fan about some random recruit. take a hint buddy.

 

[ECU]

dude give a rest . no one has time or energy to argue with some random ecu fan about some random recruit. take a hint buddy.

I didn't start this thread, and I'm just pointing out things are improving. I think you got to give us that. Also this rando recruit has multiple threads on this board including this 4 page one.

Charles Coleman to Wake Forest, Maybe?

A confusing tweet here from his coach. I assume this relates to Coleman but that is not clear and we know Ollie was actively recruiting Coleman, but I am skeptical Hurley has reached out as the tweet implies since I don't think 50+ schools reached out immediately, but I could be wrong.

the-boneyard.com

Lets not pretend like he wasn't of interest to you guys.

Also I'm confused, are you a Cincy fan with at Cronin Avatar. If so Cincy wanted him too so the points the same.

 

[ZenConn]

Blue Edwards was a high round draft pick but didn't pan out. Jeff Blake was a great college player with a pretty good NFL career. No reason to trash other programs though.

But damn, that OOC conference schedule is ugly and should be fined and docked scholarships for that hot mess. Why even bother recruiting top talent if you are going to have a schedule like that?

 

[Peacefrog]

"Seriously? Who cares what it looks like if it goes in. Yes I absolutely think he will have the greenlight to shoot 3's. He made like 50 3's on his highlight video's and many were of the difficult variety NBA range off the dribble, stepback, side step etc. He showed a lot of versatility in his jumper. "

You can't honestly be this naive. He makes his shots in a highlight video!? Will wonders never cease? His shot looks horrible and keep in mind you're not seeing the multitude of bricks lying on the editing room floor. Opposing coaches will be more than happy to give him space to fire away.

Its great that you're hopeful for your team. I'll suggest that your time and thoughts would be better spent on an ECU board somewhere if one exists. You've said your piece, many times, and aren't going to find any converts here. Enough already please.

 

[ECU]

You can't honestly be this naive. He makes his shots in a highlight video!? Will wonders never cease? His shot looks horrible and keep in mind you're not seeing the multitude of bricks lying on the editing room floor. Opposing coaches will be more than happy to give him space to fire away.

Where is your proof, do you have his percentages available? I don't so I can only go on what is known. For all you know he could be a 40+% shooter.

What is known is he hit's about 50 three's on his video including 5+ in multiple single games. He hits some difficult ones to pull off as well, off the dribble, step back etc. To do this one would HAVE to assume he is making them at a decent clip to have the freedom from his coach to put up this volume or even the difficulty of some of those shots.

To think otherwise is pretty naive and with the information we do have this is just simple logic. Also a ripped 7-0 255lb with a 7-5 wingsan guy making 6 three's in a game alone is something of note. There is clearly some upside as a shooter you can ascertain from that fact alone.

 

[tcf15]

We also demoted a guy that coached at South Carolina and Auburn to make a position for him .
I think it's more than just Coleman. It's not like Coleman was living on his couch, I read Coleman came from a good family situation. That coach has a resume that's totally fine for our 3rd assistant and I'm glad we got some young blood AAU guy on the staff. He founded his own AAU team with 14 D1 scholarship guys. Plus he was at Providence when they won the Big East last. It's not like he was driving delivery trucks. Grassroots AAU guy right there in your backyard. It's a great staff now with some big time AAU connections. How is that bad.

Not trying to knock the guy, but you're building him up way too much. From what I can tell, yeah, his AAU program was sending guys to D1, but to schools like Murray State, Monmouth, New Hampshire, etc. And when he was with Providence, sure, he was there when they won the BET, but he was a graduate assistant responsible for tutoring the players lol

 

[MattMang23]

Blue Edwards was a high round draft pick but didn't pan out. Jeff Blake was a great college player with a pretty good NFL career. No reason to trash other programs though.

Smack talk is a part of sports. If I go to an ECU board, I fully expect them to tell me UConn football isn’t good. We have spent the last five years smack talking ECU hoops before we knew they had a fan. He shows up and we are supposed to pretend like their basketball team isn’t an historical train wreck because he came to our board?

 

[ECU]

Not trying to knock the guy, but you're building him up way too much. From what I can tell, yeah, his AAU program was sending guys to D1, but to schools like Murray State, Monmouth, New Hampshire, etc. And when he was with Providence, sure, he was there when they won the BET, but he was a graduate assistant responsible for tutoring the players lol

My point was his resume is completely reasonable to be our 3rd assistant, wouldn't you agree? He took JFK's high school to there first playoffs ever and had 4 D1 players on his HS team as well. Took them to 4 playoffs in 5 years infact so he was a successful HS coach too.

Regardless of where his players went he has deep AAU ties and likely relationships with those other coaches on one of the best AAU circuts and that's the important part. Dooley, Chillious and Roccforte are great but our staff could use some younger blood and ins in the AAU scene. This is a serious staff and we didn't even lose Potasnak.

 

[pepband99]

I didn't start this thread, and I'm just pointing out things are improving. I think you got to give us that. Also this rando recruit has multiple threads on this board including this 4 page one.

Charles Coleman to Wake Forest, Maybe?

A confusing tweet here from his coach. I assume this relates to Coleman but that is not clear and we know Ollie was actively recruiting Coleman, but I am skeptical Hurley has reached out as the tweet implies since I don't think 50+ schools reached out immediately, but I could be wrong.

the-boneyard.com

Lets not pretend like he wasn't of interest to you guys.

Also I'm confused, are you a Cincy fan with at Cronin Avatar. If so Cincy wanted him too so the points the same.

No, things pertaining to the thread aren't improving. We're talking about your OOC scheduling, which is one of the worst in D1. You're blabbing on about recruiting and coaches.

 

[intlzncster]

Not trying to knock the guy, but you're building him up way too much.

Dude can hit 6+ threes in a game like this , multiple times.

Lol. Ray Allen couldn't do that.

Nice player, but this guy is not the second coming of KD.

You space him out and give Gardner room to work in the paint and we are on to something. That's a serious 1/2 combo for the next 3 years.

If he's remotely close to what you say he is, there's a 100% zero chance he's still there in three years. He'd be gone after this year. Not even a discussion.