Does RIP make the Hall of Fame this round?

[Chin Diesel]

Love the guy, but no. As @Huskybass said, 3 all-star seasons doesn't cut it where the Hall of Fame should be for players with prolonged excellence.

Random Rip stat: A career 34.6% 3 point shooter, Rip hit 45.8% of his threes in the 05-06 season.

You realize people are in the basketball HoF who have never made an all-star team or even played in the NBA, correct?

 

[Huskybass]

You realize people are in the basketball HoF who have never made an all-star team or even played in the NBA, correct?

Yes, but it's usually for guys like Oscar Schmidt who were legends in their own right. Rip is an interesting case. I think Rip was one of the 5 best UConn players of all time, and a very good (not quite great) pro. I'd love to see him in the HOF but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it never happened.

 

[UofCT]

...Did you watch prime KG? If you did, you wouldn't be asking this question. He only played with two all-stars in Minnesota - Wally Szczerbiak in 2002 and Sam Cassell in 2004. No surprise that his only WCF appearance was when Minnesota got Cassell and he finally had a competent NBA player next to him. He CARRIED that franchise for a decade and had no help.

NBA MVP. 15 time all star. 9 All-NBA teams. 9 All-Defensive first teams. Led the NBA in rebounding 4 consecutive seasons. BuT hOw GooD wAs He?

He compiled stats on bad teams.

 

[Husky25]

If Kevin Garnett was so great how come his Minnesota teams were terrible? He made one Conference finals as an alpha? Reggie Miller made six.

Basketball is a team sport and Reggie Miller's supporting cast was much better than KG's in his prime.

 

[Huskybass]

Is Bosh really a lock? He put numbers up in Toronto and went the playoffs a couple of years. Then opted to be a role player for the Heat. Numbers might show otherwise but I always remember him being pretty soft in the playoffs for the Heat too. Unfortunately had his career cut short due to health.

Maybe I just didn’t see enough of him but always thought he rode LeBrons coattails.

Career highlights and awards
2× NBA champion (2012, 2013) 11× NBA All-Star (2006–2016) All-NBA Second Team (2007) NBA All-Rookie First Team (2004) No. 1 retired by Miami Heat ACC Rookie of the Year (2003) Texas Mr. Basketball (2002) That looks like a HOF resume to me.

 

[formerlurker]

I hope he does.

 

[Husky25]

Career highlights and awards
2× NBA champion (2012, 2013) 11× NBA All-Star (2006–2016) All-NBA Second Team (2007) NBA All-Rookie First Team (2004) No. 1 retired by Miami Heat ACC Rookie of the Year (2003) Texas Mr. Basketball (2002) That looks like a HOF resume to me.

Bosh was third fiddle at best on both his Championship teams and his Wikipedia highlight box hardly stacks up to Garnett's.

How is he a HoFer and KG not?

Career highlights and awards

NBA champion (2008) NBA Most Valuable Player (2004) 15× NBA All-Star (1997, 1998, 2000–2011, 2013) NBA All-Star Game MVP (2003) 4× All-NBA First Team (2000, 2003, 2004, 2008) 3× All-NBA Second Team (2001, 2002, 2005) 2× All-NBA Third Team (1999, 2007) NBA Defensive Player of the Year (2008) 9× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2000–2005, 2008, 2009, 2011) 3× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2006, 2007, 2012) NBA All-Rookie Second Team (1996) 4× NBA rebounding champion (2004–2007) J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award (2006) Mr. Basketball USA (1995) McDonald's All-American Game MVP (1995) 2× First-team Parade All-American (1994, 1995) Illinois Mr. Basketball (1995)

 

[Excalibur]

Bosh was third fiddle at best on both his Championship teams and his Wikipedia highlight box hardly stacks up to Garnett's.

How is he a HoFer and KG not?

Career highlights and awards

NBA champion (2008) NBA Most Valuable Player (2004) 15× NBA All-Star (1997, 1998, 2000–2011, 2013) NBA All-Star Game MVP (2003) 4× All-NBA First Team (2000, 2003, 2004, 2008) 3× All-NBA Second Team (2001, 2002, 2005) 2× All-NBA Third Team (1999, 2007) NBA Defensive Player of the Year (2008) 9× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2000–2005, 2008, 2009, 2011) 3× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2006, 2007, 2012) NBA All-Rookie Second Team (1996) 4× NBA rebounding champion (2004–2007) J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award (2006) Mr. Basketball USA (1995) McDonald's All-American Game MVP (1995) 2× First-team Parade All-American (1994, 1995) Illinois Mr. Basketball (1995)

Nobody who should be taken seriously thinks Garnett isn’t a hall of gamer.

 

[Huskybass]

Bosh was third fiddle at best on both his Championship teams and his Wikipedia highlight box hardly stacks up to Garnett's.

How is he a HoFer and KG not?

Career highlights and awards

NBA champion (2008) NBA Most Valuable Player (2004) 15× NBA All-Star (1997, 1998, 2000–2011, 2013) NBA All-Star Game MVP (2003) 4× All-NBA First Team (2000, 2003, 2004, 2008) 3× All-NBA Second Team (2001, 2002, 2005) 2× All-NBA Third Team (1999, 2007) NBA Defensive Player of the Year (2008) 9× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2000–2005, 2008, 2009, 2011) 3× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2006, 2007, 2012) NBA All-Rookie Second Team (1996) 4× NBA rebounding champion (2004–2007) J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award (2006) Mr. Basketball USA (1995) McDonald's All-American Game MVP (1995) 2× First-team Parade All-American (1994, 1995) Illinois Mr. Basketball (1995)

Garnett is an absolute lock. Did anyone say otherwise?

 

[Husky25]

Garnett is an absolute lock. Did anyone say otherwise?

wasn't you. Went back to review. @UofCT2009 , evidently.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Career highlights and awards
2× NBA champion (2012, 2013) 11× NBA All-Star (2006–2016) All-NBA Second Team (2007) NBA All-Rookie First Team (2004) No. 1 retired by Miami Heat ACC Rookie of the Year (2003) Texas Mr. Basketball (2002) That looks like a HOF resume to me.

So he max'd out as a second team all-NBA one time?

 

[Huskybass]

So he max'd out as a second team all-NBA one time?

An 11 time All Star is pretty much a lock for the HOF. Isn't that the discussion?

 

[UofCT]

Basketball is a team sport and Reggie Miller's supporting cast was much better than KG's in his prime.

Ummm he played with zero HOFers during his peak of 94-04. Zero. I’m not counting a washed up Mullin. Dale Davis made an all star appearance once so is that a big upgrade over KG? Austin Croshere, Jalen Rose, and Mark Jackson are all studs right?Do some research bro.

 

[tentoes4rings]

KG is an absolute lock. For anyone to even suggest otherwise is sheer stupidity.

 

[Husky25]

Miller's career was over in 2005. His peak (or prime, as most people call it) did not extend to 2004.

Also, just the fact that you can name all of those Pacers (plus Schrempf and Smits, who you left off for some reason) is not a point in your argument's favor.

Garnett has the accomplishments and passes the eye test. NFWR.

 

[Excalibur]

Ummm he played with zero HOFers during his peak of 94-04. Zero. I’m not counting a washed up Mullin. Dale Davis made an all star appearance once so is that a big upgrade over KG? Austin Croshere, Jalen Rose, and Mark Jackson are all studs right?Do some research bro.

It’s a bad look to accuse someone of not doing research and then forget to mention Rik Smits, Brad Miller and Jermaine O’Neal. Heck, after Smits retired and Mullin and Jackson left the Pacers limped in as the 8 seed in a really weak East for a couple of seasons before they made some roster changes to improve Miller’s supporting cast.

 

[tentoes4rings]

Bosh? Bosh?? Bosh?!?!? No.

You’re delusional. Chris Bosh is a sure fire HOF.

 

[UofCT]

It’s a bad look to accuse someone of not doing research and then forget to mention Rik Smits, Brad Miller and Jermaine O’Neal. Heck, after Smits retired and Mullin and Jackson left the Pacers limped in as the 8 seed in a really weak East for a couple of seasons before they made some roster changes to improve Miller’s supporting cast.

Brad Miller had a cup of coffee as a Pacer. Jermaine was great but again Reggie was at the end of his career during Jermaines peak.

 

[superjohn]

For the third time, Bosh is a lock and Rip has no chance at the HOF.

 

[calluke]

For the third time, Bosh is a lock and Rip has no chance at the HOF.

Basketball-Reference has Hamiltons Hall of Fame probability at 1.7%

Bosh is at 99.5%

Garnett is at 100%

 

[jleves]

Basketball-Reference has Hamiltons Hall of Fame probability at 1.7%

Bosh is at 99.5%

Garnett is at 100%

So you're saying there's a chance!

 

[len0322]

3 time all-star

Love RIP, but "3 time all-star" says it all. The Hall should be reserved for the very best...i.e. top 5 players for the decade....However, if I was building a team, I would look for a players with his intangibles

 

[Huskybass]

I think Webber makes it. Rip is a year or two away, I think.

A year or two away, Rich? I think he will always be a year or two away, as in it isn't going to happen.

 

[Excalibur]

Brad Miller had a cup of coffee as a Pacer. Jermaine was great but again Reggie was at the end of his career during Jermaines peak.

You've contradicted yourself regarding Reggie's prime. But leaving that aside, what happened when Brad Miller joined? What do you know, the Pacers went from the 8 seed to the 3 in the east. Showing that Reggie, much like Garnett, needed help. Without that help, the Pacers were remarkably average.

 

[RichZ]

A year or two away, Rich? I think he will always be a year or two away, as in it isn't going to happen.

I think that would be a terrible shame. Anyone with both an NCAA and a NBA ring should be in there. I think there's a fairly common feeling that he "rested" a bit on D to have the energy to play in constant motion the way he did on O, and that may hurt his chances.