Do we still get a #1 seed.

[CTFIRERETIRED]

lol is this a joke thread? Though the distinction between the Top 2 teams and Uconn is a bit clearer, the distinction between UConn and the rest of the field is extremely clear. UConn destroyed Stanford on their home court, and Stanford barely squeaked out wins against Colorado (lol) and UCLA. There's no question UConn is a #1 seed

You know, if we had beaten Stanford in late January, instead of late December, I would agree with you. Can you honestly say that the same Connecticut team that beat Stanford in late Dec. is the same team now? For that matter is this the same team that beat Duke in January? I don't think so. You feel this thread is joke. This is clearly not the same team that destroyed Stanford, on their court, in Dec. , and Duke @ Gampel in late January, hence my poll.

 

[HuskyNan]

Can you honestly say that the same Connecticut team that beat Stanford in late Dec. is the same team now? For that matter is this the same team that beat Duke in January?

No, it's not the same team because Breanna seems to be coming out of her slump (fingers crossed), Morgan has presented herself as a reliable player and Bria has started to look more like herself. those three were pretty much non-factors until about a month ago when Morgan started stepping up her game, then Breanna and Bria reappeared during the BEast tourney.

Breanna, Morgan and Bria combined:
vs Stanford - 19 points, 11 rebounds, 3 assists, 4 TOs
vs Duke - 19 points, 5 rebounds, 9 assists, 6 TOs

 

[doggydaddy]

No, it's not the same team because Breanna seems to be coming out of her slump (fingers crossed), Morgan has presented herself as a reliable player and Bria has started to look more like herself. those three were pretty much non-factors until about a month ago when Morgan started stepping up her game, then Breanna and Bria reappeared during the BEast tourney.

Breanna, Morgan and Bria combined:
vs Stanford - 19 points, 11 rebounds, 3 assists, 4 TOs
vs Duke - 19 points, 5 rebounds, 9 assists, 6 TOs

These losses to ND has posters crazy. Did I read that UConn, in Bridgeport, is not a clear cut favorite to make the FF?

 

[Vowelguy]

You know, if we had beaten Stanford in late January, instead of late December, I would agree with you. Can you honestly say that the same Connecticut team that beat Stanford in late Dec. is the same team now? For that matter is this the same team that beat Duke in January? I don't think so. You feel this thread is joke. This is clearly not the same team that destroyed Stanford, on their court, in Dec. , and Duke @ Gampel in late January, hence my poll.

Putting aside whether this team is better or worse than the one that beat Duke/Stan, the undeniable fact is that the resume is overwhelming. UConn has lost _only_ to the top two teams, and it has beaten Stanford, Duke, Penn St, Texas A&M, Maryland. No one has a stronger claim to a #1 seed.

 

[semper]

6 points, 6 points....this is crazy...

 

[01Neaggrad02]

Jesus... I better go pray to Pope Francis I that we are even invited. UCONN has been so horrible this year.

 

[FairView]

Jesus... I better go pray to Pope Francis I that we are even invited. UCONN has been so horrible this year.

Bad news ... He's following Skyler on Twitter.
Actually they both are, Pope Francis and Jesus.

 

[vtcwbuff]

"I don't see any reason or anything they have done that would bring one to the conclusion they cannot beat Stanford/Duke/Penn St again"

I believe that they can beat any of the top teams including Baylor. I also believe that they can lose to a top team, including teams that they beat earlier in the season. I think the latter is more likely now given their recent play.

 

[doggydaddy]

"I don't see any reason or anything they have done that would bring one to the conclusion they cannot beat Stanford/Duke/Penn St again"

I believe that they can beat any of the top teams including Baylor. I also believe that they can lose to a top team, including teams that they beat earlier in the season. I think the latter is more likely now given their recent play.

By recent play, you mean the ND games? Or is this just you trying to balance the board.

 

[chrissaran]

UConn's games against Stanford, Duke and Texas A & M weren't even close. If UConn doesn't get a one seed, they were robbed.

 

[msf22b]

At the end of the day, after everyone swallows their pride, what difference does it really make?
The difference in quality of the teams you play to complete regional activity is of no consequence,
At the end of the day, you'll still have to defeat the quality team at the top, whether 1 or 2.
Can anyone foresee us sent out of Bridgeport as a 2?

Ah, the light just went on...
As a 2, we might have to play Baylor or ND in the elite 8...but unlikely... not as the highest ranked 2.

 

[Fightin Choke]

Of course they are....... the #1's have been set in stone for a few weeks..

No they hadn't, triad. If Stanford fell to UCLA on Sunday, Duke would be a 1-seed. (Were you being modest with your post?) And UCLA certainly made it interesting!

But I agree that after Stanford won and UConn beat Syracuse, UConn was guaranteed a 1-seed.

And I absolutely feel UConn is a lock for the FF. Their only close game against any team presently ranked below them was against St. John's. Why would UConn play worse in the NCAA tourney than they have played all season long? Especially considering all their games will be in Connecticut?

 

[Fightin Choke]

At the end of the day, after everyone swallows their pride, what difference does it really make?
The difference in quality of the teams you play to complete regional activity is of no consequence,
At the end of the day, you'll still have to defeat the quality team at the top, whether 1 or 2.
Can anyone foresee us sent out of Bridgeport as a 2?

Ah, the light just went on...
As a 2, we might have to play Baylor or ND in the elite 8...but unlikely... not as the highest ranked 2.

First of all, UConn will NOT be a 2-seed. But if they were, they could face any 1-seed that was in Bridgeport, as 2-seeds are typically placed using the G-curve instead of the S-curve. Using the S-curve, UConn would play the 4th 1-seed. Using the G-curve (which is based on geography), the Huskies would play whatever team is in Bridgeport because it is closest to Storrs. (How's that for a reward for earning a 1-seed?) It is this logic that has Creme placing Duke (as the best 2-seed) against Notre Dame (the 2nd 1-seed) in Norfolk. (Congrats for a great season, Muffet. You get to play Duke in the EE in an arena that will be packed with their fans.)

Baylor is the first 1-seed, so they get the closest regional, which is Oklahoma City. ND is second, so they should get the regional closest to South Bend, but that would be Bridgeport (by like 35 miles), so they will probably ship the Irish to the Norfolk regional. UConn will probably be the 3rd 1-seed and Stanford the 4th, but either way, UConn will be placed in Bridgeport and Stanford in Spokane, as that benefits both programs (and attendance!) The 2-seeds are placed using the G-curve, so first 2-seed Duke gets the regional closest to Durham, which is Norfolk. After that, it gets fuzzy because I have no idea who the next team on the S-curve is, but they would get whatever regional is closest to them. Disclaimer: There are other considerations, such as preventing teams from the same conference from being placed in the same regional (i.e., Cal shouldn't be out west because then they would be facing Stanford, etc.)

 

[reno tony]

You know, if we had beaten Stanford in late January, instead of late December, I would agree with you. Can you honestly say that the same Connecticut team that beat Stanford in late Dec. is the same team now? For that matter is this the same team that beat Duke in January? I don't think so. You feel this thread is joke. This is clearly not the same team that destroyed Stanford, on their court, in Dec. , and Duke @ Gampel in late January, hence my poll.

And which game was it that led you to believe this? Was it the triple overtime loss, the two point loss or the six point loss? It certainly couldn't have been the big wins over ranked teams. The highest scoring team in the nation, the best defensive team in the nation? I do believe your question is a joke.... but I have a sense of humor. Please enlighten me as to why you believe they aren't the same team.

 

[Sonny44]

Still a #1 seed but I no longer believe they are a Final 4 lock.

Disagree' we're the third best team right now. Even if you put Stanford ahead of us, who else would be?

 

[vtcwbuff]

By recent play, you mean the ND games? Or is this just you trying to balance the board.

Not just ND but I think those games were very revealing of the team's weaknesses. How about if they play 40 minutes like they played in the 2nd half against Syracuse? Or maybe the 1st half against St Johns.

 

[doggydaddy]

Not just ND but I think those games were very revealing of the team's weaknesses. How about if they play 40 minutes like they played in the 2nd half against Syracuse? Or maybe the 1st half against St Johns.

That is just nitpicking at the few bad 1/2's against decent teams.

You can find that with ANY team. Any.

I prefer to look at the other 95% of their performances and believe that THIS is how they will play.

 

[vtcwbuff]

That is just nitpicking at the few bad 1/2's against decent teams.

You can find that with ANY team. Any.

I prefer to look at the other 95% of their performances and believe that THIS is how they will play.

Its not really nitpicking, just looking at recent performance against decent teams. In the last month they have played only three ranked teams losing 3 of the 4 games and losing the 2nd half of the other.
I don't know how the team will play in the tournament and that's partially my point. All I know is that I'm not as confident that they are a FF team as I was when the season started.

Balance

BTW I'm still waiting. 6 more days?

 

[HuskyNan]

I appreciate the predominantly civil tone of this thread. Even though there's been much disagreement, people have expressed themselves very well, I think.

 

[doggydaddy]

Its not really nitpicking, just looking at recent performance against decent teams. In the last month they have played only three ranked teams losing 3 of the 4 games and losing the 2nd half of the other.
I don't know how the team will play in the tournament and that's partially my point. All I know is that I'm not as confident that they are a FF team as I was when the season started.

Balance

BTW I'm still waiting. 6 more days?

Ahhh...you should have known I wouldn't be able to hold to that...lol.

But I have posted less frequently, so I'm giving myself a few kudos for that!

Wouldn't you agree that even ND and Baylor have had bad halves? Heck, ND had the most recent bad half (against UConn in the last game).

I don't see it as balance. Balance to what? The few posts that think UConn will be a final four team? I would say their odds are still pretty good.

 

[vtcwbuff]

Ahhh...you should have known I wouldn't be able to hold to that...lol.

But I have posted less frequently, so I'm giving myself a few kudos for that!

Wouldn't you agree that even ND and Baylor have had bad halves? Heck, ND had the most recent bad half (against UConn in the last game).

I don't see it as balance. Balance to what? The few posts that think UConn will be a final four team? I would say their odds are still pretty good.

Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought the 8 days was the time you needed to come up with a response to my question about why you feel that women athletes should be treated differently than their male counterparts. My bad.

 

[doggydaddy]

Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought the 8 days was the time you needed to come up with a response to my question about why you feel that women athletes should be treated differently than their male counterparts. My bad.

My answer to that would be that they are different. But we just disagree on this one. I do see your point.

 

[triaddukefan]

First of all, UConn will NOT be a 2-seed. But if they were, they could face any 1-seed that was in Bridgeport, as 2-seeds are typically placed using the G-curve instead of the S-curve. Using the S-curve, UConn would play the 4th 1-seed. Using the G-curve (which is based on geography), the Huskies would play whatever team is in Bridgeport because it is closest to Storrs. (How's that for a reward for earning a 1-seed?) It is this logic that has Creme placing Duke (as the best 2-seed) against Notre Dame (the 2nd 1-seed) in Norfolk. (Congrats for a great season, Muffet. You get to play Duke in the EE in an arena that will be packed with their fans.)

Baylor is the first 1-seed, so they get the closest regional, which is Oklahoma City. ND is second, so they should get the regional closest to South Bend, but that would be Bridgeport (by like 35 miles), so they will probably ship the Irish to the Norfolk regional. UConn will probably be the 3rd 1-seed and Stanford the 4th, but either way, UConn will be placed in Bridgeport and Stanford in Spokane, as that benefits both programs (and attendance!) The 2-seeds are placed using the G-curve, so first 2-seed Duke gets the regional closest to Durham, which is Norfolk. After that, it gets fuzzy because I have no idea who the next team on the S-curve is, but they would get whatever regional is closest to them. Disclaimer: There are other considerations, such as preventing teams from the same conference from being placed in the same regional (i.e., Cal shouldn't be out west because then they would be facing Stanford, etc.)

1) Duke fans arent gonna pack the arena in Norfolk..... especially on a Monday or Tuesday night.

2) I remember 2011... Duke was the highest #2 seed... and our reward was to be put in the Philadelphia Region with UCONN... which was I think was the top overall seed that year.

 

[vtcwbuff]

My answer to that would be that they are different. But we just disagree on this one. I do see your point.

Just tuggin' the chain. It is nice to have a civil discussion, agree to disagree and no one was called any names.

 

[Kait14]

You know, if we had beaten Stanford in late January, instead of late December, I would agree with you. Can you honestly say that the same Connecticut team that beat Stanford in late Dec. is the same team now? For that matter is this the same team that beat Duke in January? I don't think so. You feel this thread is joke. This is clearly not the same team that destroyed Stanford, on their court, in Dec. , and Duke @ Gampel in late January, hence my poll.

Have you seen Stanford play lately? Yes, we would still kill them