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Discrepancies in the Bubble/Treatment of men vs women (merged)

I just hope these players know at the end of the day they are there to win a National Championship and doesn’t lose sight on the bigger prize.
 
GoUconn7961 said:
It's been all over Twitter and Tik Tok about the differences for the women inside the bubble. They have one, yes one, tiny rack of dumbbells while the men have a weight room I can only dream about. It's also been said that some of the women have been skipping meals because the food is so bad. The NCAA had plenty of time to prepare. It's unacceptable; yet predictable.
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So guess who entered the picture and got the women equipment—Dick’s Sports. It is nice to know there are still good guys out there. I buy all my sporting goods there. You should to.
 
Dokey said:
So guess who entered the picture and got the women equipment—Dick’s Sports. It is nice to know there are still good guys out there. I buy all my sporting goods there. You should to.
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I shop there too because Sports Authority went out of business. Dick's got called out nationally 4-5 years ago when an Arizona H.S. girl BB player raised a fuss about them not carrying much women's equipment, not showing many females in their catalogs & website, etc. They apologized and committed to improve their mix of female goods and exposure.
 
They're not women; they're girls, which is how many people see them. Geno always said he coaches basketball players. They're basketball players who deserve equal treatment. You would think we live in a country where women can't drive, or they have to walk behind men, or they can't get an education. What a load of @#&%$*!
 
huskyd said:
With respect 'Bama, Carnac is a self-confessed disparager of kitchen help. No amount of diversionary chit-chat can refute a man's heartfelt confession. And who, besides you and Bob Woodward, really knows what Oliver had in mind?
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I think the Artful Dodger knew. As for Carnac's intentions, they are hermetically sealed and indiscernible to my unpracticed eye. Go Huskies!
 
Just saw Jay Bilas interviewed on SportCenter regarding the NCAA tourney inequities. He blasted Mark Emmert for:

1) The inequitable situation to begin with,

2) Not doing anything about it,

3) Not saying anything about it until the NCAA got called out by players (entire AP All-American team), coaches (Dawn Staley), former players (Sabrina Ionescu), NBA players (Ja Morant, CJ McCollum), etc,

4) Throwing Lynn Holzman to the wolves by delegating the "We fell short" speech to her and not facing the world himself, and

5) Emmert's remarkable lack of leadership in general, as exemplified (once again) by the current situation.

Didn't mince words.
 
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Stoli said:



this MAY shed some light
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That is an interesting insight. Still doesn't make any sense that the NCAA Women would have to wait 10 days for their weight room, but the fact that it was telegraphed and none of the school ADs brought up the issue. Great that Georgia read the small print in the 90 page manual and understood it and took steps to bring their own weight room with them. Would have been even better if they called the SEC and the NCAA offices and raised a holy stink about the situation.

(I doubt many coaches actually read the whole thing - that is a classic 'administrative' task that gets delegated. Some lowly administrators are probably on the hot seat for not bring this up when they read the book.)
 
Not an overall fan of Sally, but that is a good article.
 
Maine fan said:
Sad commentary, to say the very least. NCAA hierarchy is to blame. They had as much time to accommodate the women as they did the men. As a fan of WCBB I am appalled. The women have gained little to not much, over the span of time since Title IX. Hosts are what they are. The NCAA did their home work and declared "good enough".
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Title IX isn’t about sports. It’s a law that requires equality of the genders in publicly funded institutions.

en.wikipedia.org

Title IX - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
 
Why are any of you surprised? The entity that brings in the money gets the perks. Simple fact of life. As someone posted, the men bring in 50 TIMES what the women bring in, so why would anyone expect the participants to be treated the same?

Then NBA and WNBA players are not treated the same. Why? MONEY!
 
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GoUconn7961 said:
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The simple answer here is to have ONE company or vendor supply swag bags for the men's and women's teams, with EXPLICIT instructions from the NCAA that ALL bags are to be exactly the same.....gender not withstanding. How hard is THAT?!? :mad: The NCAA has failed to insure equality on various levels so far. As has been mentioned, there was plenty of time to plan and make sure that all of the i's and t's were dotted and crossed.

It's clear here that there are SEVERAL administrators at the NCAA offices that just don't get it.!!! If they can get it right, all they have to do is bring (hire) some retired division one men's and women coaches (temporarily) to plan, coordinate and oversee the operations for both tournaments top to bottom. THEY would get it right. They know first hand what is needed, expected and desired. If WE (fans and interested observers) can figure out viable solutions to this on-going problem of disparity between the men's and women's tournament facilities and support infrastructure, why can't they? :confused:

The women have been in the back seat from day one, and continue to be. Emmert needs to step down or be fired. I wonder how a former female head coach with prior administrative experience and responsibilities would do at his post? There are a lot of them out there that could do a great job if given the opportunity. The buck stops on Emmert's desk, and he dropped the ball. He peed in the bed. :confused:

The squeaky wheel gets the oil. Because of the players exposing the disparities in their facilities and quality of food publicly, changes will be made immediately. The question is why couldn't those issues been addressed earlier? Insuring that both the men's and the women's facilities, food and COVID test are exactly the same. It's not rocket science. All it takes is attention to detail and some follow-up and follow through. This is embarrassing for the Mark Emmert and his staff. The thought here is (from the women's prospective) "Don't tell me you love me, SHOW ME you love me." The actions so far by the NCAA planners and administrators have shown how much they love and respect the women.......not much!!! I don't understand how they thought they could pull this off and people not see it for what is really is? :confused: SMH.

Brianna Turner summed it up best: The NCAA men's tournament vibe: "We're happy to have you here." The women's tournament vibe: "You should be happy you're here."
 
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VaConnFan11 said:
Why are any of you surprised? The entity that brings in the money gets the perks. Simple fact of life. As someone posted, the men bring in 50 TIMES what the women bring in, so why would anyone expect the participants to be treated the same?

Then NBA and WNBA players are not treated the same. Why? MONEY!
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Well, cause unlike the WNBA and NBA my tax dollars pay a lot of money to colleges, and it is the law of the land. And, um, for a non-profit they sure obfuscate their finances when it comes to the WCBB tournament. They make sure they break out the men's tournament, but lump the women's with all the other sports - why not lump all the money losing championships in with their cash cow, and break out the other money making tournament - the WCBB tournament? Is it because then they might have to pay out a reasonable participation bonus to the participants instead of lining their pockets.
 
Cornell Lt said:
Annual revenue generated from NCAA basketball tournaments:

Men's - $1.8 billion
Women's - $35 million

www.wsj.com

Women’s March Madness Is Growing in Popularity—and Undervalued

The men’s NCAA tournament generates billions, but the women’s bracket remains an afterthought in the NCAA’s overall picture.
www.wsj.com www.wsj.com
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Revenue isn't profit. You have to INVEST to get a return. I'd say that there is quite a disparity between the $ amount invested in the Men's NCAA Tournament vs Women's NCAA Tournament. What would the Women's Tournament be today if the same $ were invested in the Women's Tournament as is invested in the Men's Tournament?
 
MSGRET said:
If they had chosen Las Vegas, they could have had the food service done by a hotel buffet, which 99.9% have better food then most college facilities. Many of the weight rooms would be like a private gym. All 64 teams and staff could have been housed in one or two of the closed hotels on the Strip.
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Well, Vegas is where the Pac-12 women's and men's tournament was played....women played at Michelob Ultra Arena, formerly known as Mandalay Bay Events Center and the men played at the T-Mobile Arena. I can assume both the women's and men's teams had really good food then??
 
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LETTERL said:
That is such a bad look for the NCAA. I mean, they had MONTHS to prepare for this. Completely unacceptable.
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Ooops. I should have read ALL the posts in the thread before posting. Joni Taylor's statement puts a different spin on things, for sure.
 
When you lay off the NCAA's misdeeds to stupidity you are giving them a pass. Time and time again the NCAA brass has revealed their sole motivation is venality and ,at times, they are totally brazen about it. Recall a few years ago when a star quarterback and his dad were caught accepting wads of dough. What did the NCAA do? They deferred a decision until the de facto national championship was played.
 
I wonder which is better: the NCAA food or the food dished out at the M*A*S*H 4077 mess hall ... :confused:
 
newfrontier said:
Well, Vegas is where the Pac-12 women's and men's tournament was played....women played at Michelob Ultra Arena, formerly known as Mandalay Bay Events Center and the men played at the T-Mobile Arena. I can assume both the women's and men's teams had really good food then??
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This year 5 separate conferences had their women's and men's tournaments here in Vegas. The Big West, Mountain West, Pac-12, West Coast, and Western Athletic Conferences. The Big West was added this year due to the restrictions in California, but the other 4 have been here ranging from 4 to 10 years. The kids love Vegas, maybe not as much this year because of COVID. A friend of mine who used to work at the Golden Nugget said that they would have one of the large conference rooms for a women's team from theMW. They would have all their meetings, meals, and even had a mini weight room in it. They would also have one meal at one of the restaurants every year the first night that they arrived for the tournament. He said that the young ladies always seemed to be enjoying themselves and most of the time represented their school very well. The Pac-12 supposedly cut their tournament costs in half, (Washington) or even more, (California) depending what State the tournament was held prior to coming to Vegas.
 
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Has anyone seen anywhere this NCAA Operations Manual that was sent to all the Tournament teams?

If this manual said that only 5-lb dumbbells would be provided (per GA Tech), I wonder what only questionable points were in this document?
 
Not to be cavalier about a serious issue but the surprise to me is that anyone is surprised. The NCAA and universities have been exploiting athletes for decades while cranking out their “student athlete” PR machines for the TV cameras. They have been more than willing to oversee the evolution of football and men’s basketball into money making minor leagues for the NBA and NFL, looking the other way as long as they get their cut, education be damned. Equality exists only in the fantasy world of TV commercials, it holds no place in our institutions of higher learning.
 
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