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2020 Recruiting: Dimencio Vaughn

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Has anyone actually watched games of his? MAAC to Big East is a big jump.

yes that jump is huge. While a grad transfer like this is low risk, it also could be low impact.m

it would put a lot of pressure on bouk and gaffney to make huge leaps since the two transfers would be low major transfers. But everyone said all year we were recruiting for 2. So let’s see if that plays out.
 
I think you’re pretty low on him. Good size/build, career 52% 2PT and 35% 3P, good defensive rebounder (17-18% range which is like Vital’s), and best +/- on his team by a mile. Looks like an improvement to Adams and Wilson at minimum and I’d say he has a solid chance at being better than a freshman Jackson. I think turning him away would be a mistake.
Yeah he's a fine backup option if he's willing to wait. Being better than Sid and Adams is a very low bar, and I'd rather let Jackson have those minutes for his development. I'm pessimistic about his shooting ability considering his FT% and numbers against upper level competition.

Obviously without knowing our positions on Murphy or Nolley, I can't say for certain what we should do. But I think Nolley provides much more upside, and I personally love what Murphy is bringing for 2 more years.
 
I personally wouldn't use up a scholarship for a 4th guard off the bench type especially with the better prospects we seem to be in good position with but I trust Hurley on everything.
That's fair, I think it's a little more important when guards 1-3 are all starting
 
Yeah he's a fine backup option if he's willing to wait. Being better than Sid and Adams is a very low bar, and I'd rather let Jackson have those minutes for his development. I'm pessimistic about his shooting ability considering his FT% and numbers against upper level competition.

Obviously without knowing our positions on Murphy or Nolley, I can't say for certain what we should do. But I think Nolley provides much more upside, and I personally love what Murphy is bringing for 2 more years.
I think people are also forgetting the defensive matchups we'll be up against in the Big East. Very wing/big guard heavy. Look at Villanova's roster. Adding a guy like Vaughn to matchup with 6'5-6'8 wing will be very useful.
 
Yeah he's a fine backup option if he's willing to wait. Being better than Sid and Adams is a very low bar, and I'd rather let Jackson have those minutes for his development. I'm pessimistic about his shooting ability considering his FT% and numbers against upper level competition.

Obviously without knowing our positions on Murphy or Nolley, I can't say for certain what we should do. But I think Nolley provides much more upside, and I personally love what Murphy is bringing for 2 more years.
The looming transfer rule and covid 19 situation is having a huge impact on recruiting. The transfer rule seemed like it was going to be passed through, now there seems to be a lot of uncertainty. Not sure it’s worth waiting to find out, I’m not confident in anything that the NCAA will do or how long it may take. Don’t love the idea of taking a player that will have to sit for a year.
 
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Yeah he's a fine backup option if he's willing to wait. Being better than Sid and Adams is a very low bar, and I'd rather let Jackson have those minutes for his development. I'm pessimistic about his shooting ability considering his FT% and numbers against upper level competition.

Obviously without knowing our positions on Murphy or Nolley, I can't say for certain what we should do. But I think Nolley provides much more upside, and I personally love what Murphy is bringing for 2 more years.
I’d stay on both if he committed (even though technically there’s no open scholarship).
 
I think people are also forgetting the defensive matchups we'll be up against in the Big East. Very wing/big guard heavy. Look at Villanova's roster. Adding a guy like Vaughn to matchup with 6'5-6'8 wing will be very useful.
The looming transfer rule and covid 19 situation is having a huge impact on recruiting. The transfer rule seemed like it was going to be passed through, now there seems to be a lot of uncertainty. Not sure it’s worth waiting to find out, I’m not confident in anything that the NCAA will do or how long it may take. Don’t love the idea of taking a player that will have to sit for a year.
These are both fair points. With Vaughns strength, he is an intriguing defensive player. He'd be a solid 4th guard in our small lineups, if he can keep that shooting percentage up.

People might not agree with this, but I'm willing to wait on players as good as Nolley and Murphy. There's no guarantee recruits will turn out the way you expect, but transfers have proven at some level what kind of players you can expect them to be. Having a player like them to start off our 2021 class is a no brainer for me. But I understand people who want someone to win now with Bouknight.
 
I’d stay on both if he committed (even though technically there’s no open scholarship).
Assuming the transfer rule changes, would players like Nolley and Murphy be turned off by the addition of an established big guard? Lots of competition for playing time in this scenario.
 
I think we're getting a little too casual with the "sid is leaving" stuff. I know there have been rumors and he seems to be the most likely candidate for the 2nd scholly opening up. But can everyone be a little more tactful about it?
In my experience the potential transfer-coach conversation is based upon that end of year discussion.

The coach will lay out his projections for the upcoming year and expectations, including training, strength goals, etc.

The player weighs all that with family, advisors, etc., against other options, and makes the decision. If the player believes its unbearable, he's out no matter what. I am aware of coaches making it brutal for a kid to stay, and I'm aware of cases where a kid doesn't care about playing time and just wants to contribute and get a degree.

In my experience I am not familiar with a coach or program outright telling a kid to leave or that they wouldn't renew the scholarship. Again this is based upon my own experience and we're talking to late 80's.
 
These are both fair points. With Vaughns strength, he is an intriguing defensive player. He'd be a solid 4th guard in our small lineups, if he can keep that shooting percentage up.

People might not agree with this, but I'm willing to wait on players as good as Nolley and Murphy. There's no guarantee recruits will turn out the way you expect, but transfers have proven at some level what kind of players you can expect them to be. Having a player like them to start off our 2021 class is a no brainer for me. But I understand people who want someone to win now with Bouknight.
If the transfer rule was already in place, I’d say blitz towards the higher upside players like you’ve listed that have more eligibility. I don’t love using grad transfers but with two injured players now (Akok may not play at all next season), it prolly makes some sense to lock a player up and see what happens later, things can always change... I’ve never seen Vaughn play but i trust the staff to make a good decision, they’ve proven they have an eye for talent. He certainly fits the big guard description they’ve talked about.
 
Having a player like them to start off our 2021 class is a no brainer for me. But I understand people who want someone to win now with Bouknight.
I get your argument about waiting for the higher upside guys like Nolley, but I 100% disagree with waiting on them to sit out a year. If we wait on them we gotta almost be certain they'll play next season. The risk/reward does not make sense otherwise. Bouknight is a special player, we gotta go all out for next season. We have the pieces to be good. Remember, the better we are the more good recruits wanna play here.
 
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I get your argument about waiting for the higher upside guys like Nolley, but I 100% disagree with waiting on them to sit out a year. If we wait on them we gotta almost be certain they'll play next season. The risk/reward does not make sense otherwise. Bouknight is a special player, we gotta go all out for next season. We have the pieces to be good. Remember, the better we are the more good recruits wanna play here.
Waiting on a player vs taking a good grad transfer before Bouknight, Whaley, polley, Carlton , Sid Wilson leave isnt what i would do. Strike now while the team is good. We can always land another good transfer next year as we are seeing.
 
Waiting on a player vs taking a good grad transfer before Bouknight, Whaley, polley, Carlton , Sid Wilson leave isnt what i would do. Strike now while the team is good. We can always land another good transfer next year as we are seeing.
I completely agree. I was just saying that there is an argument to be made if you wanna hold out for the top transfer talent to play next year. But there really isn't any argument for holding out for the top talent and the top talent would have to sit out a year
 
Haven’t seen much as far as 21’ guys we are after or in good with. If we don’t have a lot of guys coming in I’d rather take a Nolley or Murphy. Just so it’s less talent to land for next year. I do like Vaughn though
 
I've basically lost track of all of the options and where we theorhetically stand in the pecking order at this point. I just can't wait until it settles out. And In Hurley I Trust.
 
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We’ve been missing one of these tough 6’5/6’6 220 pound guard pieces for a while. I remember playing Tulsa last year who had a couple of them thinking my god this looks like their men vs our boys. It’s good to have this piece we can play him anywhere 2-4, he toughens up the entire team, he gives us some of what we lost in steal/boards/3s with CV, he’s from NYC so he’ll fit in well with Hurley, Kimani, Taliek and the team. Sign me up.
 
Has anyone actually watched games of his? MAAC to Big East is a big jump.
This is what I was saying. I went to Fairfield and used to watch MAAC games a lot. The level of competition is no where near what the NBE is. It doesn't even compare to the American. Not necessarily saying its not a possibility he could perform, but its def not a sure thing his game will translate.
 
The looming transfer rule and covid 19 situation is having a huge impact on recruiting. The transfer rule seemed like it was going to be passed through, now there seems to be a lot of uncertainty. Not sure it’s worth waiting to find out, I’m not confident in anything that the NCAA will do or how long it may take. Don’t love the idea of taking a player that will have to sit for a year.
A lot of people talking about how covid19 affects recruiting. Although it definitely does, the good coaches will be able to use it to their advantage. Can't forget that everyone is effected by the pandemic the same way.
 
This is what I was saying. I went to Fairfield and used to watch MAAC games a lot. The level of competition is no where near what the NBE is. It doesn't even compare to the American. Not necessarily saying its not a possibility he could perform, but its def not a sure thing his game will translate.
Kelly was second team all-MAAC and he’s playing in the ACC. This kid was a unanimous first team selection.
 
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Also don’t believe Sid is leaving. We woulda probably seen by now. His social media doesn’t make it seem like he is. That’s gold though, I want him around.
Respectfully disagree. He could be here, or not. I'm less confident that we woulda probably seen what his future looks like.
 
^^ Thats who I thought, but didn't understand the reference. We will see if his game translates but BC is definitely a lower echelon program and I doubt he will be any good. I remember seeing that kid play at Fairfield Prep.
 
Looks like a good player though I’ve never seen any of his games. Nolley is the best of these transfers but if hurley thinks Nolley might be leaning elsewhere, let’s get this guy. Big, athletic, dunks, rebounds well and from New York..sounds like good uconn player qualities
 
Vs p6 comp over 3 years.

Providence -- 7/3/0, 3 TO, 0 STL, 1 BLK. 3/6 FG. 1/1 3FG. 0/0 FT.
PSU -- 16/7/0 2TO, 1 STL, 0 BLK. 6/9 FG. 2/5 3FG. ⅔ FT.
Oregon -- 25/6/2 0 TO, 2 STL, 3 BLK. 11/21 FG. ¼ 3FG. ⅔ FT.
UCF -- 14/5/0 1 TO 0 STL 0 BLK 6/9 FG. ½ 3FG. ¼ FT
WVU -- 11/8/3 2 TO 4 STL 1 BLK 4/11 FG ⅓ 3FG ⅔ FT
ASU -- 8/10/0 6 TO 0 STL 1 BLK 3/8FG 0/3 3FG ⅔ FT
Temple -- 11/10/0 4 TO 1 STL 1 BLK 5/15 FG 1/3 3FG 0/0 FT
Wiscy -- 7/8/2 3 TO 0 STL 1 BLK 3/8 FG 0/1 3FG ½ FT

Average:

12.4 PTS
7.1 REB
0.9 AST
2.6 TO
1.0 STL
1.0 BLK
47% FG
32% 3FG (2.8 attempts per)
56% FT (2.5 attempts per)

Don't love the AST and TO numbers. But he would be a great addition regardless. We need tough, physical defenders.
56% FT?
 
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