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After winning a National Championship, opening the doors on a multi-million dollar practice facility, and extending Ollie to a new contract UConn was able to land basically two "in state kids". If that is the best they can do following such an amazing year what are they going to be able to do recruiting wise following a sub par season like the current one? The pathetic poor excuse of a conference known as the AAC is without a doubt the main reason why kids do not want to come here!
 
sawxfan23 said:
After winning a National Championship, opening the doors on a multi-million dollar practice facility, and extending Ollie to a new contract UConn was able to land basically two "in state kids". If that is the best they can do following such an amazing year what are they going to be able to do recruiting wise following a sub par season like the current one? The pathetic poor excuse of a conference known as the AAC is without a doubt the main reason why kids do not want to come here!
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The AAC plays a huge part no doubt but having a recruiting specialist on the staff could help ease that burden. Right now we're losing some recruits to the VCU's and UNLV's of the world who aren't in power conferences.
 
sawxfan23 said:
After winning a National Championship, opening the doors on a multi-million dollar practice facility, and extending Ollie to a new contract UConn was able to land basically two "in state kids". If that is the best they can do following such an amazing year what are they going to be able to do recruiting wise following a sub par season like the current one? The pathetic poor excuse of a conference known as the AAC is without a doubt the main reason why kids do not want to come here!
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You act like landing two top-100 kids is disappointing just because they're from closer to UCONN than most?
 
It was late in the 2015 recruiting cycle when we won the national championship. 2016 will be a better test. But look, if you can get 2 players the quality of Adams and Enoch per year, you've got 8 of them on your team at any one time, which is enough to field an outstanding team. That's about what Jim Calhoun did on the recruiting side for 20 years. If KO is as good a coach as we think, then it will be enough to keep us in the national picture.
 
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mauconnfan said:
Yeah huh. We used to bitch because we couldn't keep kids here close to home. Now we're bitching we got them:rolleyes:
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Well that's what can be so annoying about this place. Anyone can join, which means any miserable dope with nothing better to do will find a way to complain about anything because they are addicted to certain emotions.
 
I think a lot of people are underestimating this year's record and the fact that nearly everyone (except the best player) is coming back. Not exactly an attractive situation for a guy potentially looking to be one and done. Regardless if he would have been the best player or starting center (you have no idea), Brimah's not going to the NBA if he can't stay on the floor against kids smaller than he is. Hamilton isn't going anywhere, neither are Calhoun, Purvis, Samuel, or Facey. So, his minutes will be down compared to any number of other programs and barring a huge turnaround next season, he isn't coming to a title contender unless the new guys (also demanding minutes if they are as good as advertised) are one and done lottery picks, which I doubt they are.

If Brimah was tearing it up and a lock to go top 5, then we might be having a different conversation.
 
Jose Gee said:
maybe loosing Stone to Maryland is karma coming back around to kick us in the nuts! (Gay/Majok)
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No. It isn't.

But thanks for posting, low post count person.
 
I bet if you poll the ESPN Top 100 recruits and ask them, "Who won the National Championship last year?" I would bet over 50% would not say Connecticut. You would be surprised how quickly a national championship can be spoiled by a horrid season, let alone two down years. Not spoiled for the fans, the program, but spoiled in the minds of recruits.

Recruits think in the now - they really don't care what happened in 2011. And come 2016, they won't care about what happened last March/April.
 
Stairmaster said:
Fun fact: this is Ollie's first class with multiple Top-100 recruits. So much for a lack of uptick.
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Gah- I've been saving that nugget for when he lands a third.

2013: 1 top 100 recruit (Facey)
2014: 2 top 100 recruits (Hamilton & Purvis)
2015: 2 top 100 recruits (Adams & Enoch)

I count Purvis for the obvious reasons - he was definitely one of the 100 most sought-after recruits in the country after transferring. Arguably top 50.

Point is, if we land one of Papagiannis, Stone, Dorsey or a reclassifying Brown, then this is (by the numbers) KO's best ever recruiting class. For the third straight year.

And the classes are only going to get better as KO's network gets better. We're onto the kids we want earlier than we have been in the past (think about how early we were on Waters, Samuels, SJM, Zach Brown, Ishmael El-Amin and a few others from 2017), which should mean more consistency going forward.

The '00s are going to return to Storrs by 2018 or so. Everybody just needs to be patient for a bit.
 
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Unless we still have a legitimate shot, I'd rather this thread fade into oblivion. Why torture ourselves.

Unless you're saying there's a chance?

 
tzznandrew said:
Unless we still have a legitimate shot, I'd rather this thread fade into oblivion. Why torture ourselves.

Unless you're saying there's a chance?

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We have no chance. This thread should disappear. It was fun while it lasted though
 
CTBasketball said:
I bet if you poll the ESPN Top 100 recruits and ask them, "Who won the National Championship last year?" I would bet over 50% would not say Connecticut. You would be surprised how quickly a national championship can be spoiled by a horrid season, let alone two down years. Not spoiled for the fans, the program, but spoiled in the minds of recruits.

Recruits think in the now - they really don't care what happened in 2011. And come 2016, they won't care about what happened last March/April.
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Good lord that's a ridiculous thing to say. Maybe there are other things they care about more, but I think they all know who won it all.
 
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CTBasketball said:
I bet if you poll the ESPN Top 100 recruits and ask them, "Who won the National Championship last year?" I would bet over 50% would not say Connecticut. You would be surprised how quickly a national championship can be spoiled by a horrid season, let alone two down years. Not spoiled for the fans, the program, but spoiled in the minds of recruits.

Recruits think in the now - they really don't care what happened in 2011. And come 2016, they won't care about what happened last March/April.
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I bet if you're allowed to make up 100% of statistics on the spot, you'd win 90% of the debates you're in. 100% if you're allowed to pretend to know what's in the mind of 100 recruits.
 
husky99 said:
Easy solution. . Do not open the thread...:)
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I can't not keep being reminded of what we missed out by his name being at the top...even if I don't click on it. And then, I click on it hoping there's been some change of heart.

Not as simple as some of the other threads, though I take your point.
 
My boss is on the Wisconsin boosters board. Apparently Stone to Wisconsin is pretty much done minus a second set of ACT scores. Take my SOURSEZ~! for what you will - but I'd put UConn a distant third to Wisconsin and Maryland at this point...
 
WingU-Conn said:
I bet if you're allowed to make up 100% of statistics on the spot, you'd win 90% of the debates you're in. 100% if you're allowed to pretend to know what's in the mind of 100 recruits.
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60% of the time it works every time!
 
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Stairmaster said:
You act like landing two top-100 kids is disappointing just because they're from closer to UCONN than most?
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I don't know what's so hard to understand about this. Look at the Rivals150 for this year and count up the New England kids. There are a lot of them. There aren't a lot of them every year, which means that we won't be able to get an Adams/Enoch duo quite so easily. Combine this with the fact that this should have been a dominant recruiting year with Ollie's extension, winning a championship, and opening a brand-new facility all at once. With all of this in our favor, we were able to get two kids who had always wanted to go to UConn anyway. We haven't won a single recruiting battle despite having more ammo than we're going to have again in a while. If that isn't disconcerting to you, then you're being deliberately obtuse.
 
CallMeBruce said:
I don't know what's so hard to understand about this. Look at the Rivals150 for this year and count up the New England kids. There are a lot of them. There aren't a lot of them every year, which means that we won't be able to get an Adams/Enoch duo quite so easily. Combine this with the fact that this should have been a dominant recruiting year with Ollie's extension, winning a championship, and opening a brand-new facility all at once. With all of this in our favor, we were able to get two kids who had always wanted to go to UConn anyway. We haven't won a single recruiting battle despite having more ammo than we're going to have again in a while. If that isn't disconcerting to you, then you're being deliberately obtuse.
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New England is absolutely loaded nowadays, there are a lot of them every year.
 
CallMeBruce said:
I don't know what's so hard to understand about this. Look at the Rivals150 for this year and count up the New England kids. There are a lot of them. There aren't a lot of them every year, which means that we won't be able to get an Adams/Enoch duo quite so easily. Combine this with the fact that this should have been a dominant recruiting year with Ollie's extension, winning a championship, and opening a brand-new facility all at once. With all of this in our favor, we were able to get two kids who had always wanted to go to UConn anyway. We haven't won a single recruiting battle despite having more ammo than we're going to have again in a while. If that isn't disconcerting to you, then you're being deliberately obtuse.
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The problem with your point of view is that it suggest that no actual work was put into their recruitment. KO and staff still had to meet these kids, interact with their families and coaches, and persuade them to come here against a bunch of other coaches doing the same thing. Adams had Kansas and Louisville coming in, which are two programs with a history of strong success on the recruiting trail. Enoch's prep coach has a history of uneasy relations with UCONN, and that probably took work too. It's easy for we message board posters to think that all KO has do to to recruit is press a few buttons on an XBOX controller. It's not.

I'm not disconcerted, nor am I obtuse thank you very much. To expect Ollie's recruiting to go from 1 5-star, one 2-star PF with no other offers, and a JUCO G to 5-6 Top 100 guys within the span of a year is ridiculous, NC or no NC. The current 2015 class as it stands is Ollie's best one yet. This is what you get when you hire a young HC without a ton of experience. No matter how likeable or knowledgeable KO is, he is going to be at a disadvantage at first simply because he hasn't been around as long as the Selfs, Izzos, and Donovans of the world. He will improve.
 
superjohn said:
New England is absolutely loaded nowadays, there are a lot of them every year.
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And we've been missing out on them big-time in previous years. In 2014 alone, Okonoboh, Malik-Abu, Joseph, Chukwu, and Terrell were all top-100 guys. 2013, Vonleh and Selden. 2012 Dunn, Noel, Layman, Niang, Tarczewski, and Ledo. We have had a bad past few years of recruiting New England. If KO re-establishes our pipeline, especially in the NEPSAC scene, this could be very beneficial to our program in the long run. The NE prep scene is one of the few constants in HS BB.
 
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