Dez let's P play the talent card some more

[businesslawyer]

I had made an assumption ... that I've since come to realize was quite far from reality.

Save this quote. It will come in handy.

 

[BlueMAB]

Last time I started talking about the NFL and what players may or may not be able to play there, I got crucified too.

THe coaching staff we've got has it's faults, but the vast majority of the criticism coming from fans around here, is misguided. I feel partly at fault for that, because I was very vocal about certain things early in the season, because I had made an assumption prior to this season, that I've since come to realize was quite far from reality.

You're dancing. You called me out and kept at it, so back it up.

Which specific players on this team are destined for the NFL but would not be if it weren't for the impact of Deleone and Pasqualoni? Or save the crap about crystal balls.

You even brought up Reyes in this conversation. You're going to credit Pasqualoni and Deleone for Kendall Reyes, who they coached for one year as a redshirt senior?! Rather than Hughes and Edsall who had him for 4? Really? SMH

 

[Carl Spackler]

You're dancing. You called me out and kept at it, so back it up.

Which specific players on this team are destined for the NFL but would not be if it weren't for the impact of Deleone and Pasqualoni? Or save the crap about crystal balls.

You even brought up Reyes in this conversation. You're going to credit Pasqualoni and Deleone for Kendall Reyes, who they coached for one year as a redshirt senior?! Rather than Hughes and Edsall who had him for 4? Really? SMH

Take it easy dude, you're going wild with conclusions. Kendall Reyes, undoubtedly learned nuances of playing the game that have helped him to where he's at from the new coaching staff, in being able to be an immediate contributor in the NFL on the defensive line, and by my saying that, it does nothign to diminish what any other coach has done, is capable of, and continues to do.

Destined for the NFL? Nobody is destined for anything but death and taxes.

I will guarantee you this though, that any player coming out of UConn, that is given the opportunity to compete for a spot on an NFL roster, is going to impress their new coachign staff with their work ethic, their dedication and the simple abilty to pour everythign they've got onto the field, and that was something that Edsall established, and that Pasqualoni is continuing.

 

[BlueDogs]

BOYCOTT DEZ. Don't go to Dez, dont put article links here, Don't read him.Most of hit visit stats come from fans like us. Ignore and make him irrelevant.

 

[Adios]

Last time I started talking about the NFL and what players may or may not be able to play there, I got crucified too.

THe coaching staff we've got has it's faults, but the vast majority of the criticism coming from fans around here, is misguided. I feel partly at fault for that, because I was very vocal about certain things early in the season, because I had made an assumption prior to this season, that I've since come to realize was quite far from reality.

Carl, thousands who go to games either think we're crazy and don't post here or don't even know about this message board.

 

[Carl Spackler]

Carl, thousands who go to games either think we're crazy and don't post here or don't even know about this message board.

I don't understand. Do you mean to suggest that that the opinions and viewpoints expressed here are in some way isolated from reality?

 

[BlueMAB]

Take it easy dude, you're going wild with conclusions. Kendall Reyes, undoubtedly learned nuances of playing the game that have helped him to where he's at from the new coaching staff, in being able to be an immediate contributor in the NFL on the defensive line, and by my saying that, it does nothign to diminish what any other coach has done, is capable of, and continues to do.

Destined for the NFL? Nobody is destined for anything but death and taxes.

I will guarantee you this though, that any player coming out of UConn, that is given the opportunity to compete for a spot on an NFL roster, is going to impress their new coachign staff with their work ethic, their dedication and the simple abilty to pour everythign they've got onto the field, and that was something that Edsall established, and that Pasqualoni is continuing.

it's pretty blatantly obvious that we've got more than a few players that have benefitted from the coachign they've gotten in the past two seasons, and some of them will play at the next level, that would not have been there otherwise

If it's "pretty blatantly obvious" it should be easy to tell us who you're talking about. With respect to Pasqualoni and Deleone.

 

[SubbaBub]

Dez should be embarrassed.

PP gets a pass for not having a QB last year, that's it for the talent excuse. I don't want to hear it. I watched every game, at no point did I think we were out gunned talent wise. Except maybe on the sideline.

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[MilliniumPrince]

I still don't see the proof P is a better recruiter than Edsall. Everything P does is based on what the previous coach built. They use it in recruiting pieces and in meeting with recruits. So, based on relative starting points....what has Coach P done recruiting wise that is clearly better? He came in on the back of a BCS appearence, so his classes should have an on-paper uptick. But has the difference been that big? Edsall drove me nuts with his too conservative style, but Coach P can't even manage victory formations......and we all know I am not making that up. He screws up calling kneel-downs!! What has been better under the current regime? In a conference sans WVU he has failed to make a bowl in back to back seasons. The O-line used to be our calling card, it is now our weakest link. Running game used to be feared, now it is almost laughable.
But firing him would cost too much.....The Curse of the Bean Counter (Hathaway) is killing us.

 

[UC990411]

Something tells me Dez isn't going to be happy when he reads this...

 

[RedStickHusky]

i agree; we don't have the talent to overcome our coaching. when we do, we'll apparantly have the right coaches in place. On talent, this team could've gone 9-3...

 

[UC990411]

i agree; we don't have the talent to overcome our coaching. when we do, we'll apparantly have the right coaches in place. On talent, this team could've gone 9-3...

Do you think Dez knows this, or do you think he's that oblivious?

 

[FfldCntyFan]

But this is exactly why the hire was so duck*ing dumb. Even if you didn't know P would be as bad a coach as he has been here, it still didn't make sense. He was never going to win with Edsall's guys. Him winning would require 4 or 5 years of bringing in his own, presumably more talented, guys based on his being a better recruiter. The problem with that strategy, obviously, is that by the time you're into P's 4th and 5th years, and you're now hoping to get ahead of where we were, P's age is such that he could be slowing down, if not out, at any moment.

It was never just P's age -- it was P's age added to the 4 or 5 years any idiot (thank you Jeff hathaway) should have known it would take P to improve the program.

This!

Absolutely this!

Even if somehow what they are trying to sell us is true, by the time we're ready to hit stride the guy in charge will be collecting social security.

 

[huskymedic]

This!

Abso****inglutely this!

Even if somehow what they are trying to sell us is true, by the time we're ready to hit stride the guy in charge will be collecting social security.

Bill Snyder is 72 (just saying) Sorry - it was a softball to hit.

... and no, PP is no BS

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Last year, with the QB situation we were not going to win more than 6-7 games.
The real question is, why haven't we progressed from last year with a better defense and a solid improvement at QB.

I have to disagree with you here.

Better coaching (not great, merely better than what we had) and it would not be unreasonable to believe that we could have won four out of our losses to Vandy, ISU, WMU, Pitt, Louisville & Cincinnati.

We were completely unprepared at kickoff for WMU, UL & UC (which has to fall at the feet of the head coach) yet we got back into the WMU game and nearly got back in the UL & UC games (if we weren't digging ourselves out of a major hole in each of those, we could have won all three. Pitt was somewhat similar to the other two mentioned BE losses and we actually had leads against Vandy & ISU.

It would not have required Vince Lombardi or Bill Walsh to have won at minimum a handful more games these past two seasons considered our opponents. I find it obscene that the talent card is being played and it is unfathomable that the press is leading the charge.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

"Pasqualoni and Deleone can't coach players up."

That's what you said, and that's what your entire thing I responded to was based on. It's a load of crap because it's pretty blatantly obvious that we've got more than a few players that have benefitted from the coachign they've gotten in the past two seasons, and some of them will play at the next level, that would not have been there otherwise, and if you've got some kind of foresight ability to know that a player coming out of high school, is capable of playing NFL football, I'd like to have your crystal ball.

Edsall's best recruiting class, was the class of 2007, the same year that Edsall started seriously looking for work elsewhere. Recruiting went downhill, now, with the benefit of hindsight, in a big way thereafter to the point by spring 2011, and Edsall leaving in the middle of the night, we were worse off than any of us outside, looking in, imagined.

If you don't agree with me, that's fine. We disagree.

Carl,

Someone who spent his first couple of years telling the rest of the board that he played for UConn when we were in the Yankee Conference should know enough about the personality of college aged football players (especially those who were never highly toutes, such as the standard UConn recruit) to realize that they will normally play the role of good soldier and generally offer praise for any instruction received.

 

[sportsart]

Media says....

Edsall is quiet = p.rick

PP talks = great guy

 

[ctchamps]

But this is exactly why the hire was so duck*ing dumb. Even if you didn't know P would be as bad a coach as he has been here, it still didn't make sense. He was never going to win with Edsall's guys. Him winning would require 4 or 5 years of bringing in his own, presumably more talented, guys based on his being a better recruiter. The problem with that strategy, obviously, is that by the time you're into P's 4th and 5th years, and you're now hoping to get ahead of where we were, P's age is such that he could be slowing down, if not out, at any moment.

It was never just P's age -- it was P's age added to the 4 or 5 years any idiot (thank you Jeff hathaway) should have known it would take P to improve the program.

I got the impression Jeff was more concerned about having an agreeable coach as opposed to a fiery good coach! Plus he wanted to stick it to Burton. JH was a horrible AD imo.

 

[RMoore1999]

But this is exactly why the hire was so duck*ing dumb. Even if you didn't know P would be as bad a coach as he has been here, it still didn't make sense. He was never going to win with Edsall's guys. Him winning would require 4 or 5 years of bringing in his own, presumably more talented, guys based on his being a better recruiter. The problem with that strategy, obviously, is that by the time you're into P's 4th and 5th years, and you're now hoping to get ahead of where we were, P's age is such that he could be slowing down, if not out, at any moment.

It was never just P's age -- it was P's age added to the 4 or 5 years any idiot (thank you Jeff hathaway) should have known it would take P to improve the program.

"But this is exactly why the hire was so duck*ing dumb."

 

[HuskyBarker]

Do you think Dez knows this, or do you think he's that oblivious?

I vote for oblivious !

 

[ZooCougar]

I don't think Pasqualoni is a better recruiter. And I don't believe he is a better developer.

One really oustanding thing I will say about Edsall, is that he could find tremendous value where others missed it. He could do this in most areas except for WR and QB. If he could recuit and evaluate QBs as well as CBs and LBs then he would be at a much better school than Maryland right now.

Most of those two star kids Edsall recruited were really "three star" types whatever that means. The definition of 4 Stars means something like "instant impact". We had players like Darius Butler, Jasper Howard and others come in and make relatively instant impacts. Some were really 4 stars in all actuality.

BREAK

This is what we are realistically looking at.

Most of the best of Edsall's legacy players are done at UConn. Some of these guys will play on Sundays.

Brace yourself for the ugliest UConn football that you can imagine. Losing to Randy in the Rent could be the tipping point. If he has any love for his old program, he will show it no mercy. And do his part to flush this waste down the toilet once and for all.

Michigan? That could be a hot ticket. You guys really think the Michigan fans are going to turn out in droves for that one? Doubt it. It won't be much hard than normal to get a ticket for that game. Michigan doesn't perceive UConn as a threat. They will watch Michigan take care of business from their own homes while flipping back and forth from a more consequential game.

When looking at Pasqualoni, realistically and rationally. I think it's reasonable to say that he could still win 4-6 games. 4 games is almost a lock.

 

[RedStickHusky]

P may be a better recruiter; he may run better practices; he may be better in dealing with the adminstration and the press; and we may need a couple more years to really know any of this. In the meantime, this staff cannot manage a game. Timeouts, playcalling, substitions, basic clock management and game strategy are all horrendous. So, while there may be a level of talent we could someday attain to overcome these obstacles, I'd much rather see game day coaching that would allow our players to squeeze some results from the talent we have. Hanging your just got blasted QB out to dry on an unprotected trick play in a close game in the 4th qtr is just the latest example.

 

[ruskin]

P may be a better recruiter; he may run better practices; he may be better in dealing with the adminstration and the press; and we may need a couple more years to really know any of this. In the meantime, this staff cannot manage a game. Timeouts, playcalling, substitions, basic clock management and game strategy are all horrendous. So, while there may be a level of talent we could someday attain to overcome these obstacles, I'd much rather see game day coaching that would allow our players to squeeze some results from the talent we have. Hanging your just got blasted QB out to dry on an unprotected trick play in a close game in the 4th qtr is just the latest example.

Don't forget the two timeouts during the Whitmer to wildcat switch

 

[FBUCONN]

D. Conner talks to PP--it's a "excuse making" competition. Believe me both are quite familiar with the technique!

 

[uconnflyer88]

I don't believe Delahunt is NFL caliber.

If you want to make the argument they are capable of coaching up players the way the prior staff did, please do better. Show me how the O-line got better after GDL took over responsibilities.

He took over the duties last year, meaning this was his first year implementing a new blocking scheme with an entirely brand new offensive line.....christ almighty at LEAST give him a year to get it inplace

Tell me which walk-ons they are going to coach up into the NFL.

Please for the love of God no....maybe if we want to head to the MAC, but if we want to progess our program the goal should NOT be to take walk ons and make them NFL caliber, if it happens...it happens, but for the love of God not the goal

Making **** up? Please. You're the one who was overjoyed at the fact Foley was taken off the OL and GDL was taking over. How did that work out for us this year?

See my above comment
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