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Except the NFL played actual championships and the Giants won them.

Hey, why don't the pats have two more?
6 > 4

NFL titles when there were 8-12 teams in the league, before Super Bowls, & most of all, BEFORE the Patriots even existed, and even better, before you were born, you're hanging your hat on that?

How pathetic.

6 super Bowls is better than 4. And the Patriots are undoubtedly the most dominant team in NFL history.
 
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Cowboys fan here, the Patriots are a class above the giants. The Giants are blue-blood Calibre but the Pats are arguably the best franchise all time. 6 Super bowls in the past 20 years and you Giant fans are bringing up pre World War II championships? Huh?
 
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#58
Not a giants fan or pats fan or even Yankees fan but based on upstater logic half the Yankees world series along with other baseball teams shouldn't count because expansion happened after and African american players weren't integrated yet
 
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Also Steelers nation has a very good debate for best franchise rather than best franchise for a 20 year period
You bet and a few others .Some just totally go out of there way to slam the Pat's and rely on the past as if the present doesn't matter as much.To deny the Patriots as sport fans is crazy. The Patriots are here now and it's real.
 
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#61
I mean, "all time" was not defined as super bowl era. but yeah. the Pats/Steelers are certainly the top class of this era. no denying that. its just funny to me how triggered Pats fans get when anyone pokes at em. With 6 rings, you'd think their skin would be a little tougher.
 
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Yeah! I get it. Works both ways. I like poking the Giant fans on the board also. Not hard to get a rise there and I like all those guys.
 
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6 > 4

NFL titles when there were 8-12 teams in the league, before Super Bowls, & most of all, BEFORE the Patriots even existed, and even better, before you were born, you're hanging your hat on that?

How pathetic.

6 super Bowls is better than 4. And the Patriots are undoubtedly the most dominant team in NFL history.
So the World Series' won when there were 16 teams in MLB, Stanley Cups won pre-1967, and the Celtics titles from the '60s when there were 9 NBA teams don't count?
 
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So the World Series' won when there were 16 teams in MLB, Stanley Cups won pre-1967, and the Celtics titles from the '60s when there were 9 NBA teams don't count?
I wasn't even born then... Ancient history. Weren't there 6 NHL teams back then? How can you possibly compare those titles, when your chances are 1 out of 6, and there's no free agency, to 1 out of 32 when your team experiences constant turnover? These things are incomparable.
 

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I wasn't even born then... Ancient history. Weren't there 6 NHL teams back then? How can you possibly compare those titles, when your chances are 1 out of 6, and there's no free agency, to 1 out of 32 when your team experiences constant turnover? These things are incomparable.
how do you count the ones where you were caught cheating?
 
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This Sunday will get interesting with Mick and Hurley vs. the refs in front of a raucous XL center crowd. Get your $10 beers ready!
 

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6 > 4

NFL titles when there were 8-12 teams in the league, before Super Bowls, & most of all, BEFORE the Patriots even existed, and even better, before you were born, you're hanging your hat on that?

How pathetic.

6 super Bowls is better than 4. And the Patriots are undoubtedly the most dominant team in NFL history.

Steelers have six as well and they won with other players besides Bradshaw and the titans of the 70's

I give props to New England. They are the best in the last 18 years without a doubt.
 
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Steelers have six as well and they won with other players besides Bradshaw and the titans of the 70's

I give props to New England. They are the best in the last 18 years without a doubt.
Yep, Steelers are the only other comparison, but if you look at most games won, playoffs and regular season, or both, in the SB era, it's the Patriots. The Cowboys actually have done better than both in those categories, but have fewer Super Bowls.
 

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lol pats fans these days
He's just mad because he knows 8 is more than 6 and rather than being upset that nobody in Boston took time off from building racism factories or whatever they do up there to, maybe, have a real NFL team before 1960, the Giants were establishing themselves as the bedrock of the league. And that no matter how many Super Bowls the Patriots win, they will never be as respected or important.

It comes down to ownership. Wellington Mara built the league, Bob Kraft was involved in human trafficking- hey, everyone has their own thing.
 

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