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Dear AD Benedict/UConn BOT: Spend Some Goddam Money On Football

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Hoophound said:
I think the time to throw more money at football will be when we hire our NEXT head coach. I'd normally say Edsall needs the money for his staff to succeed but I feel that he's made some very bad choices this time around. I don't think he can recruit at the level he needs to in order to succeed either. If I am the new President, I get through next season and assess whether or not to fire Randy and make a splash hire or retain Randy and find him the money for a good staff. I have a feeling that another terrible season and the questions that come with it will cause Randy to get pretty grumpy and things may spiral out of control.

At that point, the next coach needs to be someone that is "out of our league". That's what it will take to bring in talent and bring back fans. I'd quietly be planning for it right now by figuring out where to trim the fat in the AD.
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Since when has the AD planned anything ahead. Fix it when it becomes a problem is already too late.
 
Hoophound said:
I think the time to throw more money at football will be when we hire our NEXT head coach. I'd normally say Edsall needs the money for his staff to succeed but I feel that he's made some very bad choices this time around. I don't think he can recruit at the level he needs to in order to succeed either. If I am the new President, I get through next season and assess whether or not to fire Randy and make a splash hire or retain Randy and find him the money for a good staff. I have a feeling that another terrible season and the questions that come with it will cause Randy to get pretty grumpy and things may spiral out of control.

At that point, the next coach needs to be someone that is "out of our league". That's what it will take to bring in talent and bring back fans. I'd quietly be planning for it right now by figuring out where to trim the fat in the AD.
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You know, I've had this same thought. Seems like Benedict/UConn are content with seeing whether or not Edsall can save the program with all arms/legs tied first. Maybe they are waiting for those buyout dollars to be absorbed or maybe they are out on the prowl for a sugar daddy/mommy to help properly fund football. My concern is that we are more than likely going to finish 1-11 (or worse) in 2019 and at that point, we will have to extremely overpay anyone to take over the program for 2020.
 
Dooley said:
Agree. Even if we have to pare down to running an AD that only supports a half dozen or so sports, so be it. We can restore programs after we start to make more money.
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no can do. you gotta keep a minimum of like 14
 
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whaler11 said:
i assume that is why they have disappeared. at first they were in my grill. i havent heard boo in forever.
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No doubt. They cut the number of "personal service contacts" and then spread the Season ticket holders and Group Sales contacts amongst the remaining souls. I think I'm on my third?
 
Dooley said:
We've wasted an exceptional amount of money in the last few years alone on hiring Aspire and needlessly shooting ourselves in the foot with Diaco and Ollie buyout terms. Re-addressing our venue lease terms is a must going forward. Makes zero sense to play games at the XL that draws crowds that are much less than what Gampel holds.
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The mayor of Hartford feels that UConn playing games in Hartford makes restaurant owners happy. I’m sure this is true!, however, it doesn’t do the school any good. Give UConn a reward for doing this, like a heavily discounted rent for the XL center and also the RENT for FB games.
Tell me why we gave up owning the concessions at the Rent or do we get a % of the $$ spent? If not why?
Reduce the # of assistants or whatever in the AD department. No more giving jobs to une mployed explayers. We are not running a charity here.
Charity begins at home.
 
huskymedic said:
No doubt. They cut the number of "personal service contacts" and then spread the Season ticket holders and Group Sales contacts amongst the remaining souls. I think I'm on my third?
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Yeah they used to always call and bug me but haven’t heard from them since the fall
 
Hoophound said:
I think the time to throw more money at football will be when we hire our NEXT head coach. I'd normally say Edsall needs the money for his staff to succeed but I feel that he's made some very bad choices this time around. I don't think he can recruit at the level he needs to in order to succeed either. If I am the new President, I get through next season and assess whether or not to fire Randy and make a splash hire or retain Randy and find him the money for a good staff. I have a feeling that another terrible season and the questions that come with it will cause Randy to get pretty grumpy and things may spiral out of control.

At that point, the next coach needs to be someone that is "out of our league". That's what it will take to bring in talent and bring back fans. I'd quietly be planning for it right now by figuring out where to trim the fat in the AD.
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I don’t know if we have that much time left!
 
uconnell said:
The mayor of Hartford feels that UConn playing games in Hartford makes restaurant owners happy. I’m sure this is true!, however, it doesn’t do the school any good. Give UConn a reward for doing this, like a heavily discounted rent for the XL center and also the RENT for FB games.
Tell me why we gave up owning the concessions at the Rent or do we get a % of the $$ spent? If not why?
Reduce the # of assistants or whatever in the AD department. No more giving jobs to une mployed explayers. We are not running a charity here.
Charity begins at home.
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Do you want the piddy concessions revenue at the rent in exchange for the debt service?

they dont get that stuff because they didnt pay for the stadium and there wasnt any other viable option
 
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ConnHuskBask said:
20% of all new season ticket sales is criminal. I can't even wrap my head around the thought process behind signing something like that.
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im sure its just what they originate and not people who find the website.

well i hope.
 
Waquoit said:
Exactly. We have "fans" here bragging that they're not buying season tickets while at the same time insisting that they spend more money.
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And as I've said many times here:

Number of donors to the UCONN athletics department < # of Boneyard posters.
 
whaler11 said:
Do you want the piddy concessions revenue at the rent in exchange for the debt service?

they dont get that stuff because they didnt pay for the stadium and there wasnt any other viable option
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You wanna talk about UConn handcuffing itself, its stuff like this.

Find another school that pays rent for its home games. There's a few.
Now find the ones who don't get ANY concession or parking revenue.

UConn has less to start with and they've got access to fewer streams of revenue than almost anyone else. Its the state's university. Why are they paying the state rent? Its dumb.

Building's nearly paid off anyway, let them take on the remaining debt service. Let them have some dignity and some hope. Let them create their own revenue streams rather than having that cash go to LAZ and folks running the stadium who don't give a damn about the university.

Its like the games in Hartford thing for me- do you think UConn knows something the rest of the country doesn't? This isn't how other places operate!
 
zls44 said:
You wanna talk about UConn handcuffing itself, its stuff like this.

Find another school that pays rent for its home games. There's a few.
Now find the ones who don't get ANY concession or parking revenue.

UConn has less to start with and they've got access to fewer streams of revenue than almost anyone else. Its the state's university. Why are they paying the state rent? Its dumb.

Building's nearly paid off anyway, let them take on the remaining debt service. Let them have some dignity and some hope. Let them create their own revenue streams rather than having that cash go to LAZ and folks running the stadium who don't give a damn about the university.

Its like the games in Hartford thing for me- do you think UConn knows something the rest of the country doesn't? This isn't how other places operate!
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they didnt handcuff themselves they didnt have a choice. it was either take the deal at rent or stay at memorial playing unh
 
whaler11 said:
they didnt handcuff themselves they didnt have a choice. it was either take the deal at rent or stay at memorial playing unh
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Oh, I agree, that was the deal. In 1999.

Its 2018.
 
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Dooley said:
That's definitely a fair point. Trust me, I hope he doesn't retire.

UConn has to make some very tough decisions in the coming years. We need to figure out how to spend less as an AD as a whole while figuring out a way to spend more in football.
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This is the problem that most are not realizing.

Everyone talks about cutting sports to divert funding to the football program but, the reality is UConn is likely to have to cut sports just because the budget mess may force it. Cutting sports is most likely not going to be a "found" source of revenue that can be invested into football.

Unfortunately, I believe that cutting sports in the next few years is going to be forced on the Athletic Department rather than being in internal decision
 
What I think the new president, trustees, AD and other state officials need to see is the amount spent on football by other state universities who have high research levels and are AAU members. I think most of these schools also spend a lot on football. It appears, in the US, state universities which want excellence in research also have excellence in football. May be wrong but I would like to see the numbers.
 
CL82 said:
It just feels like it's over.

I need a shot of enthusiasm. Paging @UConnDan97
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Here's what I've got: we have each other.

Think I'm kidding?? I just finished up all my work stuff when I got online to read this, and we're already on page 7 of the thread. People here care about the program. We care about the outcome. We care about the school.

Is it nearly impossible to keep making undefeated predictions? You betcha. But did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? No!

Stay strong, Husky Nation...
 
zls44 said:
You wanna talk about UConn handcuffing itself, its stuff like this.

Find another school that pays rent for its home games. There's a few.
Now find the ones who don't get ANY concession or parking revenue.

UConn has less to start with and they've got access to fewer streams of revenue than almost anyone else. Its the state's university. Why are they paying the state rent? Its dumb.

Building's nearly paid off anyway, let them take on the remaining debt service. Let them have some dignity and some hope. Let them create their own revenue streams rather than having that cash go to LAZ and folks running the stadium who don't give a damn about the university.

Its like the games in Hartford thing for me- do you think UConn knows something the rest of the country doesn't? This isn't how other places operate!
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OTOH - as long as they are paying it to the state - that is a circular argument. So, as an example, we change it so we don't pay rent - the state loses the money and the AD looks better. And yet, nothing is accomplished. Since the #1 argument is that the "state" can't afford to keep funding this disaster of an AD - it only makes sense to look at things that are net benefits to the state/school on a combined basis.
 
Dooley said:
You know, I've had this same thought. Seems like Benedict/UConn are content with seeing whether or not Edsall can save the program with all arms/legs tied first. Maybe they are waiting for those buyout dollars to be absorbed or maybe they are out on the prowl for a sugar daddy/mommy to help properly fund football. My concern is that we are more than likely going to finish 1-11 (or worse) in 2019 and at that point, we will have to extremely overpay anyone to take over the program for 2020.
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The biggest concern is whether we can get a quality coach to accept the job........right now, the quality of athlete UConn attracts is more often than not FCS or lower. Never mind the teams performance has been the "worst of the worse". This program is currently a career killer. You can offer me a salary larger than the national debt.......I wouldn't come. It will be very tough for any high profile coach to attract "his type players" to UConn
 
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tduconn said:
The biggest concern is whether we can get a quality coach to accept the job...right now, the quality of athlete UConn attracts is more often than not FCS or lower. Never mind the teams performance has been the "worst of the worse". This program is currently a career killer. You can offer me a salary larger than the national debt..I wouldn't come. It will be very tough for any high profile coach to attract "his type players" to UConn
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Everyone has a price. We're all down on UConn now and rightfully so given the last 8 seasons of absolute bottom barrel football. But everyone has a price. Alot of times, that price involves a properly funded FBS assistant coach pool and that's the piece that UConn has failed miserably.
 
huskymedic said:
No doubt. They cut the number of "personal service contacts" and then spread the Season ticket holders and Group Sales contacts amongst the remaining souls. I think I'm on my third?
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A couple of years ago (2017) I had a "personal contact" named Kristina Tedford. She was more than exceptional. Kept in contact with me even after I recommitted for 2017 season.

Kristina left Dec 2017. Last time I heard from anyone was February 2018. Effort has dropped off in a lot of areas, in my view.
 
So you know it’s bad when the guys in Columbus Ohio’s main radio station not only makes fun of Randy giving 150000 of his money to an assistant that leaves, but the fact that we lost 40 million. They have no clue how we can’t make money with our basketball programs. They have no idea how bad our contract was. They did say they felt bad for us but eviserated our football team.
 
Not to revive a dead thread but I have to vent my frustration here. Finally, today, 12/19, I received my first call from my Aspire rep* since August when I called them to complain about how they messed up my parking pass situation for Football. I had ZERO contact with him through football season. He did not reach out to ask how the season was going, apologize for the mix up of my passes, ask if there was anything he can help with, nothing.

A typical sales person might reach out to a valued customer (keep in mind, I'm traveling to every home game from NYC) and ask if they'd be interested in a similar product... in this case perhaps UConn basketball or hockey. Instead, today I received a voicemail stating he can offer me some exciting packages for basketball. So, I called him back figuring I'd let him pitch me.

He starts off the call basically saying that its too bad we hadn't talked about a 1.5 weeks ago, because he could've offered me some pro rated deals for next year. (I WAS AROUND, WHY DIDN'T HE CALL ME???) Then, he tells me because I am from NYC, I should buy the tickets "for assets" to sell next year or I can also buy courtside seats for this year. He offers me no special deals, no discounts, completely misses out on a sales pitch, and ends it by saying he can call me back in April about new offerings.... meaning we won't talk for another 4ish months.

It's crazy how much we pay this company. These reps are nice people, but they are not salespeople. We need salespeople and not just for football. For basketball too. Take young talent, give them sales skills, and continue to develop them.

*Speaking on behalf of my personal account, not Husky Ticket Project
 
PopcornHatKid said:
Not to revive a dead thread but I have to vent my frustration here. Finally, today, 12/19, I received my first call from my Aspire rep* since August when I called them to complain about how they messed up my parking pass situation for Football. I had ZERO contact with him through football season. He did not reach out to ask how the season was going, apologize for the mix up of my passes, ask if there was anything he can help with, nothing.

A typical sales person might reach out to a valued customer (keep in mind, I'm traveling to every home game from NYC) and ask if they'd be interested in a similar product... in this case perhaps UConn basketball or hockey. Instead, today I received a voicemail stating he can offer me some exciting packages for basketball. So, I called him back figuring I'd let him pitch me.

He starts off the call basically saying that its too bad we hadn't talked about a 1.5 weeks ago, because he could've offered me some pro rated deals for next year. (I WAS AROUND, WHY DIDN'T HE CALL ME???) Then, he tells me because I am from NYC, I should buy the tickets "for assets" to sell next year or I can also buy courtside seats for this year. He offers me no special deals, no discounts, completely misses out on a sales pitch, and ends it by saying he can call me back in April about new offerings.... meaning we won't talk for another 4ish months.

It's crazy how much we pay this company. These reps are nice people, but they are not salespeople. We need salespeople and not just for football. For basketball too. Take young talent, give them sales skills, and continue to develop them.

*Speaking on behalf of my personal account, not Husky Ticket Project
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Did you let him know the points in your post? If so, what was his response? If not, why not?
 
CL82 said:
Did you let him know the points in your post? If so, what was his response? If not, why not?
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I was audibly frustrated, but I did not tell him how to do his job. Hopefully, they have a supervisor listening in on some of these conversations to use as teaching moments.
 
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