Dear AD Benedict/UConn BOT: Spend Some Goddam Money On Football

[Dooley]

Dunn leaving UConn for the lowly Jets after Edsall's bake sale money wasn't enough to retain him (surprising, I know!) means this bad boy gets bumped back up.

SPEND SOME GODDAM MONEY ON FOOTBALL.

 

[zls44]

Dunn leaving UConn for the lowly Jets after Edsall's bake sale money wasn't enough to retain him (surprising, I know!) means this bad boy gets bumped back up.

SPEND SOME GODDAM MONEY ON FOOTBALL.

What money?

 

[Waquoit]

What money?

Exactly. We have "fans" here bragging that they're not buying season tickets while at the same time insisting that they spend more money.

 

[zls44]

Exactly. We have "fans" here bragging that they're not buying season tickets while at the same time insisting that they spend more money.

Yeah, but if they don't buy season tickets, I can't blame them either.

 

[CL82]

Why does Dunn leaving feels like it is the beginning of the end? We've endured nutshot after nutshot, yet this one feels different.

Crappy on field performance...
Bad attendance....
Yet another change of OC...
Athletic Department $40M a year....

It just feels like it's over.

I need a shot of enthusiasm. Paging @UConnDan97

 

[John]

Exactly. We have "fans" here bragging that they're not buying season tickets while at the same time insisting that they spend more money.

these same fans will still be donating to the athletic department, just not purchasing tickets to see a shyteshow. Get off your high horse.

 

[Waquoit]

Yeah, but if they don't buy season tickets, I can't blame them either.

I don't blame them either. I have several buddies that don't buy tickets anymore. But just own the decision. This "they don't leave a voicemail" stuff is driving me nuts.

 

[Waquoit]

these same fans will still be donating to the athletic department, just not purchasing tickets to see a shyteshow. Get off your high horse.

Really? The crew that complains about paying a seat donation is going to keep donating even without a seat?

 

[Drew]

Think about how insanely disastrous the Aspire contract has been when football tickets generated the same amount of revenue to the AD as women's basketball tickets did in 2018 and $700k less than the abortion that was UConn basketball last year. Report: UConn athletics generated $40M less in revenue than it spent

 

[John]

Really? The crew that complains about paying a seat donation is going to keep donating even without a seat?

no one is complaining about the seat donation.

 

[Drew]

Also, you get what you pay for. Hurley is making $3mm a year. Geno is making over $2mm a year. We're paying Kenya Hunter $315k to be an assistant basketball coach while also paying both coordinator positions $300k. I mean think about that. Both of our coordinators earn less money than a normal assistant coach on the basketball staff.

Fun fact: the total compensation for Hurley, Moore, Hunter, and Young is $3.565mm for the 2018 season. The total compensation for the entire on field football staff is $3.445mm. If you're going to play FBS football you can't be spending more money for four coaches on your basketball staff than you are for 11 on your football staff.

 

[JMick]

Also, you get what you pay for. Hurley is making $3mm a year. Geno is making over $2mm a year. We're paying Kenya Hunter $315k to be an assistant basketball coach while also paying both coordinator positions $300k. I mean think about that. Both of our coordinators earn less money than a normal assistant coach on the basketball staff.

Fun fact: the total compensation for Hurley, Moore, Hunter, and Young is $3.565mm for the 2018 season. The total compensation for the entire on field football staff is $3.445mm. If you're going to play FBS football you can't be spending more money for four coaches on your basketball staff than you are for 11 on your football staff.

And if they're not going to make the investment, why are we playing? That's what I don't understand. Right now we're just losing on and off the field. They're providing so much ammunition to the "drop football" crowd that I honestly can't even argue against it anymore

 

[HuskyHawk]

Also, you get what you pay for. Hurley is making $3mm a year. Geno is making over $2mm a year. We're paying Kenya Hunter $315k to be an assistant basketball coach while also paying both coordinator positions $300k. I mean think about that. Both of our coordinators earn less money than a normal assistant coach on the basketball staff.

Fun fact: the total compensation for Hurley, Moore, Hunter, and Young is $3.565mm for the 2018 season. The total compensation for the entire on field football staff is $3.445mm. If you're going to play FBS football you can't be spending more money for four coaches on your basketball staff than you are for 11 on your football staff.

The number is low mostly because Randy came back on a low dollar contract, partly to help us out of our financial problems. What were we paying Diaco and staff? PP and staff?

 

[Dooley]

What money?

We need someone in our AD to call Cincinnati or Houston and get some money management tips.

 

[Dooley]

Also, you get what you pay for. Hurley is making $3mm a year. Geno is making over $2mm a year. We're paying Kenya Hunter $315k to be an assistant basketball coach while also paying both coordinator positions $300k. I mean think about that. Both of our coordinators earn less money than a normal assistant coach on the basketball staff.

Fun fact: the total compensation for Hurley, Moore, Hunter, and Young is $3.565mm for the 2018 season. The total compensation for the entire on field football staff is $3.445mm. If you're going to play FBS football you can't be spending more money for four coaches on your basketball staff than you are for 11 on your football staff.

Bingo. We are needlessly dominating the top spot of the national WBB coaching pool and for what? We could win the next 1,000,000 WBB games and it will not get us 1 millimeter closer to making P5 money than where we are today. Geno is a HOF coach and our WBB program will go down as the greatest program in collegiate sports history...but we're cemented to G5 (or maybe worse!) conference affiliation because we don't spend the necessary money to fund football.

We are spending almost on a dollar for dollar level between WBB and football and yet we're shocked that football is a dumpster fire and we're not getting any closer to making P5 money like we should be. We are continually passed over by P5 conferences because we have yet to demonstrate this simple understanding that football drives the bus and always has. So frustrating.

 

[zls44]

We need someone in our AD to call Cincinnati or Houston and get some money management tips.

Cincinnati has a 70s-era arena downtown and somehow manages to be able to play all their games a few miles away from it in a now renovated building.

 

[Dooley]

Cincinnati has a 70s-era arena downtown and somehow manages to be able to play all their games a few miles away from it in a now renovated building.

Yup. Cincinnati's (and Houston) AD is so far ahead of us it's scary. Highly doubt that they'd be foolish enough to bond out $30M+ on a part-time hockey facility too.

We're an AAC deadweight. No way around it. Until we move the necessary money around to properly fund football, we get what we pay for.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

Yup. Cincinnati's (and Houston) AD is so far ahead of us it's scary. Highly doubt that they'd be foolish enough to bond out $30M+ on a part-time hockey facility too.

We're an AAC deadweight. No way around it. Until we move the necessary money around to properly fund football, we get what we pay for.

Cincy and Houston are both having great seasons playing in shiny freshly renovated arenas. Houston has a new football stadium and Cincy also just renovated their football stadium. These “commuter” schools have to be so much more attractive to P5 conferences than us at this point it’s not even funny. Can’t forget UCF, USF, SMU, Memphis, even Tulsa spank us in football and basketball year in year out. We are much more close to ECU and Tulane than the rest of these schools since 2014.

 

[CL82]

Bingo. We are needlessly dominating the top spot of the national WBB coaching pool and for what? We could win the next 1,000,000 WBB games and it will not get us 1 millimeter closer to making P5 money than where we are today. Geno is a HOF coach and our WBB program will go down as the greatest program in collegiate sports history...but we're cemented to G5 (or maybe worse!) conference affiliation because we don't spend the necessary money to fund football.

We are spending almost on a dollar for dollar level between WBB and football and yet we're shocked that football is a dumpster fire and we're not getting any closer to making P5 money like we should be. We are continually passed over by P5 conferences because we have yet to demonstrate this simple understanding that football drives the bus and always has. So frustrating.

So drop woman's basketball?

 

[Dooley]

Cincy and Houston are both having great seasons playing in shiny freshly renovated arenas. Houston has a new football stadium and Cincy also just renovated their football stadium. These “commuter” schools have to be so much more attractive to P5 conferences than us at this point it’s not even funny. Can’t forget UCF, USF, SMU, Memphis, even Tulsa spank us in football and basketball year in year out. We are much more close to ECU and Tulane than the rest of these schools since 2014.

Yup. Seems like every school/AD understands what it takes to win and position themselves to increase their revenue streams except us. Cincinnati, Houston, UCF, USF, Memphis, Temple...they'd all KILL to be located where UConn is located and have the fanbase/brand that UConn has. They're lapping us in every possible way and they're doing it while spending MUCH less than we do.

 

[Dooley]

So drop slash expenses by 25%-50% in woman's basketball?

This ^ is what I'd consider. I'm sure it's not popular but what really isn't popular is the thought of never operating on level footing with our traditional geographic enemies - Syracuse, BC, Rutgers (!), Pitt, etc.

 

[Waquoit]

This ^ is what I'd consider. I'm sure it's not popular but what really isn't popular is the thought of never operating on level footing with our traditional geographic enemies - Syracuse, BC, Rutgers (!), Pitt, etc.

That wouldn't help FB. It would just leave UConn with no games of any kind on ESPN.

 

[CL82]

This ^ is what I'd consider. I'm sure it's not popular but what really isn't popular is the thought of never operating on level footing with our traditional geographic enemies - Syracuse, BC, Rutgers (!), Pitt, etc.

Cutting the WBB budget doesn't change the fact that we are not "operating on level footing with our traditional geographic enemies - Syracuse, BC, Rutgers (!), Pitt, etc." Not one bit. A new conference affiliation is the only thing that would. I'd slash everything but FB MBB, hockey, WBB, baseball (plus the necessary Title IX sports to offset) before I'd cut WBB. WBB is one of our few successful brands. It is crazy to cut that. You can find far more compelling candidates in the upper half of this list.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

This ^ is what I'd consider. I'm sure it's not popular but what really isn't popular is the thought of never operating on level footing with our traditional geographic enemies - Syracuse, BC, Rutgers (!), Pitt, etc.

That's why I'm at. Make what is hopefully a temporary slash and hope to get into the P5. If they don't someday make it to the P5, the programs will be permanently closed anyways. At least this gives it hope.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

Cutting the WBB budget doesn't change the fact that we are not "operating on level footing with our traditional geographic enemies - Syracuse, BC, Rutgers (!), Pitt, etc." Not one bit. A new conference affiliation is the only thing that would. I'd slash everything but FB MBB, hockey, WBB, baseball (plus the necessary Title IX sports to offset) before I'd cut WBB. WBB is one of our few successful brands. It is crazy to cut that. You can find far more compelling candidates in the upper half of this list.

Honest question - what exactly has women's basketball done for UConn? They've lost like 10 games the past decade and it still doesn't even cause a blip on the P5 radar.