Dawn Staley- HAS ANYONE NOTICED? Thanks CD

[Ukonnfan]

I really didnt want to post this at first.., but I'gonna share what I saw. ...
I have noticed that Dawn of SC has been teaching her kids often to have disdain for the refs. I care not to repeat what I've seen her say to her players on the edge of court as the other team is shooting free throws or whatever. One may be mad at the refs, and sure they do make some bad calls, but teaching your kids to say #*%@$ them, @*#$÷# them refs in a very disdainful manner is so disrespectful and teaches kids to hate authority, and be much more self centered. This left such a bad taste in my mouth.

You want to be TRULY succesful, liked and respected by your peers, this is not the way to go about learning it.
Thanks Chris Daley for all you do. You make more of and impact than you will ever know.

 

[Sonny44]

I'm surprised. That usually backfires sooner or later.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

She doesn't have to swear at them, a simple look - a baleful glance - with her patented churlish mug on. Know it scares the poop out of me!

 

[SCGamecock]

She doesn't have to swear at them, a simple look - a baleful glance - with her patented churlish mug on. Know it scares the poop out of me!

Her game face is pretty scary. I imagine it's impossible to not know how she's feeling. Her emotions are there for ALL to see.

 

[bags27]

Geno is usually smarter with his emotions: he'll yell to the referees what's on his mind and then refocus on wining the game. Even in those times that CD has to pull him away from getting a technical, he quickly gives up the anger and moves on, and he never humiliates anyone.

I wish I could remember which game posted on SNY (2003 NC?) has a perfect shot of Dee running back up court shouting obscenities (easy to lipread the M-F construction) to herself about a ref's call. She thought no one was looking...just the camera and around 15000 people.

 

[CL82]

She doesn't have to swear at them, a simple look - a baleful glance - with her patented churlish mug on. Know it scares the poop out of me!

Note to self - don't invite Rocky over to watch a game.

 

[UcMiami]

Geno is not renowned for the delicate nature of his vocabulary, and I don't really mind that aspect of coaching - it isn't a delicate business they are all involved in. But I do agree on the attitude of distain for refs being communicate to her players being the wrong approach. Saying 'don't let that specific call dictate how you play' is a good coaching move - the other, not so much.

 

[Aluminny69]

I asked this question before, but never got an answer. Coaches of boy's and men's basketball teams argue and yell at the Refs all the time. It is almost like they feel obligated to argue, especially if the opposing coach is complaining to the Refs.

Back in the early seventies when Women's/ Girl's basketball started from Title IX, there was a rule, in high school anyway, that coaches were not allowed to say ANYTHING to the Refs. If you even looked at the Refs the wrong way, you were given a technical foul. It was a definite double standard. Does anyone else remember this rule? And when did it change? I know I'm not the only old timer on this board.

 

[HoopsFan21]

I just wanna know who on the team does all that god awful shrieking. I'm guessing it's a coach? I had to turn down the volume last year in our game because it was so obnoxious.

 

[RSHERMVIKES]

Back when UCONN was in the Big East at the BE Tournament at the XL Center, a friend of mine, a HS ref who always worked the tables during the games. The next morning after one semi-final game he asked a bunch of us "who's the Black lady who coaches Rutgers?" We told him Vivien Stringer. He said, "that lady curses through the whole game, F..k this, F..k that", to her Assts., Players, Refs, anyone within ear shot, every other word out of her mouth was a curse word!
When I watch SoCar play, every close up shows Dawn Staley cursing at someone, with a growling look as if she could kill........
that may be PHILLY BASKETBALL but it shouldn't be used in WCBB!

 

[EricLA]

I really didnt want to post this at first.., but I'gonna share what I saw. ...
I have noticed that Dawn of SC has been teaching her kids often to have disdain for the refs. I care not to repeat what I've seen her say to her players on the edge of court as the other team is shooting free throws or whatever. One may be mad at the refs, and sure they do make some bad calls, but teaching your kids to say #*%@$ them, @*#$÷# them refs in a very disdainful manner is so disrespectful and teaches kids to hate authority, and be much more self centered. This left such a bad taste in my mouth.

You want to be TRULY succesful, liked and respected by your peers, this is not the way to go about learning it.
Thanks Chris Daley for all you do. You make more of and impact than you will ever know.

Sorry, but before people pile on Dawn, I'd need more "proof" of what you are talking about. You flat out state that Dawn is "teaching her kids often to have disdain for the refs" and follow it up with stating she teaches them to swear at the refs.

How exactly does she teach this? There's a difference between stating she allows it, compared to what you imply, which sounds like Dawn says to her players "Go tell the refs to f*(k off any time you please". Somehow I doubt Dawn teaches anyone that...

 

[uconnell]

Don't care that Staley is a good coach,I really don't like or respect her. Most respected coaches; Muffet, Sherry Coale (mulky makes me laugh, with her antics). I'm sure there are more but all I can think of right now.

 

[CL82]

I asked this question before, but never got an answer. Coaches of boy's and men's basketball teams argue and yell at the Refs all the time. It is almost like they feel obligated to argue, especially if the opposing coach is complaining to the Refs.

Back in the early seventies when Women's/ Girl's basketball started from Title IX, there was a rule, in high school anyway, that coaches were not allowed to say ANYTHING to the Refs. If you even looked at the Refs the wrong way, you were given a technical foul. It was a definite double standard. Does anyone else remember this rule? And when did it change? I know I'm not the only old timer on this board.

I was watching a girl's high school game earlier this week and the visiting coach was working the refs hard but not quite enough to get T'd up.

"Joe. Joe. Joe. Her feet weren't set? Oh, I just wanted to ask because they looked set from here."
----
"I understand that rule is for the girl's safety, I was just hoping that we could keep my girls safe too."

It was entertaining, well entertaining for me anyway.

 

[VAUConnFan]

Eight years at Temple, eight years at South Carolina, this appears to be the first mention on this particular subject; And by an OP barely a month beyond his/her first Boneyard post. I am not buying the uncorroborated hearsay account of a Boneyard rookie about Coach Staley coaching/teaching disrespect toward officials.

Follow the game enough, one understands that there are certain words and actions that draw immediate technicals. Through 17 games this season, South Carolina has yet to get its first technical; Not to an individual player, the coach, or to the bench. Zero.

 

[JordyG]

Eight years at Temple, eight years at South Carolina, this appears to be the first mention on this particular subject; And by an OP barely a month beyond his/her first Boneyard post. I am not buying the uncorroborated hearsay account of a Boneyard rookie about Coach Staley coaching/teaching disrespect toward officials.

Follow the game enough, one understands that there are certain words and actions that draw immediate technicals. Through 17 games this season, South Carolina has yet to get its first technical; Not to an individual player, the coach, or to the bench. Zero.

As a callow rookie on this site I think yours is a fair, well rounded response. Hopefully I won't make too many freshman mistakes.

 

[Ukonnfan]

Eight years at Temple, eight years at South Carolina, this appears to be the first mention on this particular subject; And by an OP barely a month beyond his/her first Boneyard post. I am not buying the uncorroborated hearsay account of a Boneyard rookie about Coach Staley coaching/teaching disrespect toward officials.

Follow the game enough, one understands that there are certain words and actions that draw immediate technicals. Through 17 games this season, South Carolina has yet to get its first technical; Not to an individual player, the coach, or to the bench. Zero.

Sorry i hit a nerve. By the way, just because I have only been part of this blog for barely a month as you say, it doesnt make me less mature in judgment.

 

[UcMiami]

Geno has greatly toned down his histrionics, to the point I can't remember his last technical foul. But earlier in his career he was very animated and not infrequently got T'ed up.

He has spoken about his early coaching days, when he truly believed he could effect the outcome on the court every second of a game. He has come to realize that he can prepare the team, he can make specific adjustments and manage substitutions, but most of the time he is at the mercy of the basketball gods and his own players game day psyches. It has been a relaxing realization for him and probably added to his heart health!

 

[ThisJustIn]

Sorry i hit a nerve. By the way, just because I have only been part of this blog for barely a month as you say, it doesnt make me less mature in judgment.

No nerve hit - just no proof. If you're going to throw mud at a well respected college coach - who also coaches USA basketball (and they do.not.mess.around with propriety) you better bring the goods. And I ain't seen nothing....

If they mouthed off as you claim the have been taught, clearly they're not good at it: No technicals.
If dawn mouthed off to the ref as you claimed she did, clearly she doesn't speak loudly enough: No technicals.

Yes, I'm not fond of the diva-ness around fouling. As someone once yelled at a UConn game, "Shea never fouls." Bull. I'd love "respect for the game" to include diva-warnings/techs (like the delay of game warning).

And, as for swearing on the court (it was DT in the 2003 or 4 Championship game against Tenn. Might be the same game Maria said "" after missing a free throw) there's a reason Sue tugs her shirt up to her face. Once she swore and (I believe) got t'd up. Now she swears into her shirt.

 

[Kibitzer]

Eight years at Temple, eight years at South Carolina, this appears to be the first mention on this particular subject; And by an OP barely a month beyond his/her first Boneyard post. I am not buying the uncorroborated hearsay account of a Boneyard rookie about Coach Staley coaching/teaching disrespect toward officials.

Follow the game enough, one understands that there are certain words and actions that draw immediate technicals. Through 17 games this season, South Carolina has yet to get its first technical; Not to an individual player, the coach, or to the bench. Zero.

Thanks for your polite but pointed smackdown of a potential internet legend.

 

[Phillyconn]

She has a crude and undisciplined mouth and anyone clueless enough to show it off in public and set that example for their players, their school, and especially the young fans watching and listening is nothing as a coach to me regardless of her so called "fierce" competitiveness. I couldn't care less what her fans and her "look the other way" administration give for excuses. She should be ashamed. And she's not the only coach out there using it to justify their "tough guy" image.

Lots of coaches curse at the refs. On all levels. JC did it. Sometimes they deserve it.

 

[Phillyconn]

She has a crude and undisciplined mouth and anyone clueless enough to show it off in public and set that example for their players, their school, and especially the young fans watching and listening is nothing as a coach to me regardless of her so called "fierce" competitiveness. I couldn't care less what her fans and her "look the other way" administration give for excuses. She should be ashamed. And she's not the only coach out there using it to justify their "tough guy" image.

Coaches curse all the time. This is not new.

 

[Gus Mahler]

Don't care that Staley is a good coach,I really don't like or respect her. Most respected coaches; Muffet, Sherry Coale (mulky makes me laugh, with her antics). I'm sure there are more but all I can think of right now.

Seems to me the matter of which WCBB coaches are respected and why would be a good subject for a new thread. I urge you to consider starting one.

 

[HuskyNan]

TJI and I sat behind the bench at the Paradise Jam and could hear Geno conversing with his players. While he may not be emoting quite so much, his language is still quite....salty. As long as the players are good with it, I don't care. I don't know why Geno's salty language is OK and Dawn's makes her a bad person. Unless someone thinks only women can't use bad language, to which I say

 

[Kibitzer]

The incomparable old Celtics coach, Red Aeurbach, was the master at hassling and baiting NBA refs.

First, he had a precisely honed technique. Instead of merely berating refs (which of course he did competently), he got deep under their skins by taunting them about their poor conditioning or lack of professional competence.

Red would typically rip a ref: "No wonder you're missing calls -- you're outta shape!" or, "It's time to put your whistle away -- you can't keep up anymore!" and so on. He even got tossed once when coaching an All-Star game by ragging the refs for dogging it while the players were busting their asses.

Best of all: his motive. I have it on CD (TV interview): "In almost all of the games I got tossed, we were losing. And yet we wound up winning most of them with me gone." [Remember - no assistant coaches then] "They weren't winning for 'Dear Old Red.' They wanted to show they didn't need me."

Then a wink, a puff on a big cigar, and the interview ended.