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one time, I was playing a pick up game on the west coast, drove in for a lefthanded layup with my right elbow swinging to keep defenders away. Guy looks at me and asks, "you from Philly?" Yup....

I to was out on the west coast on a road trip but I was dancing at a club. A women looks at me and says "yo are you from Phila?" Yep I respond I guess we just do things different in Phila.
 
HuskyNan said:
I'm not sure how many of you are parents, but I have two kids in college and have spent an awful lot of time around young people in the last 20 years or so. About 10 years ago, i was at one of my sons' middle school (7th-9th grade) soccer games and was sitting in front of a group of cheerleaders for the other team. You should have heard them talking to each other about " this" and " that". Another time, I picked up the headphones for one of my kids online multi-player games and got an earful of 4 letter words. When they were in high school, I was quartermaster for the marching band and spent hours upon hours with 100 high schoolers and, wow, salty doesn't describe the words used. These are all good kids and good students, from good families. It's how kids talk. Swearing and being "cool", I guess you'd call itc is just a ritual of youth and I'd bet a lot of you under 60 grew up doing exactly the same thing years ago.
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But we're not talking about youths; we're talking about grown-ups, specifically coaches who should be role models for their customers, i.e. the fans, not a small number of whom are youths. Its not tolerated for teachers, why is it necessary for coaches?
 
Sonny44 said:
But we're not talking about youths; we're talking about grown-ups, specifically coaches who should be role models for their customers, i.e. the fans, not a small number of whom are youths. Its not tolerated for teachers, why is it necessary for coaches?
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My point is that the players already use that language so they aren't being shocked or corrupted in any way by the coaches.

Do you have the same objection to coaches using four letter words around male players?
 
Sonny44, we're wasting our time pointing this out. It's obvious that most of these people give coaches a pass on their crude communication skills because after all....... they're coaches. And the bigger the name, the bigger the pass because they're perceived to be more successful. It's necessary for these coaches to use this language to let everyone, especially the players, know who's in charge. And of course it's easier now than in the past because, after all, it doesn't bother the kids. They think it's cool.
 
BobbyJ said:
Sonny44, we're wasting our time pointing this out. It's obvious that most of these people give coaches a pass on their crude communication skills because after all.. they're coaches. And the bigger the name, the bigger the pass because they're perceived to be more successful. It's necessary for these coaches to use this language to let everyone, especially the players, know who's in charge. And of course it's easier now than in the past because, after all, it doesn't bother the kids. They think it's cool.
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Exactly... that's why we love UConn basketball. Because we perceive Geno is great and we give him a pass on his language because he's a coach.

Except I lost you what you said it's easier now than in the past because, after all, it doesn't bother the kids.

Can't quite tell if you're saying
1) Coaches didn't swear in the past (really?) or
2) Kids didn't swear in the past (really?) or
3) Crude language doesn't bother kids because they use it... but, then, wouldn't that make it less effective?
 
BobbyJ said:
Sonny44, we're wasting our time pointing this out. It's obvious that most of these people give coaches a pass on their crude communication skills because after all.. they're coaches. And the bigger the name, the bigger the pass because they're perceived to be more successful. It's necessary for these coaches to use this language to let everyone, especially the players, know who's in charge. And of course it's easier now than in the past because, after all, it doesn't bother the kids. They think it's cool.
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I think you are mistaking statements of fact (Geno & Dawn use salty language) for agreement with (People must be OK with this) giving them a pass as you call it. Geno and Dawn are not "perceived" to be successful they actually are successful-among the best in their field. Could they be as successful without using salty language? Probably. Would many of us prefer if Dawn and Geno didn't use salty language? Yes we would-as many have already said.
 
HuskyNan said:
My point is that the players already use that language so they aren't being shocked or corrupted in any way by the coaches.

Do you have the same objection to coaches using four letter words around male players?
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"Youths" is a non-gender indicating word.
 
CocoHusky said:
I think you are mistaking statements of fact (Geno & Dawn use salty language) for agreement with (People must be OK with this) giving them a pass as you call it. Geno and Dawn are not "perceived" to be successful they actually are successful-among the best in their field. Could they be as successful without using salty language? Probably. Would many of us prefer if Dawn and Geno didn't use salty language? Yes we would-as many have already said.
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If it were as acceptable as some of you purpose you would not have to make up a cover-up word like "salty" as a substitute for "foul" or "crude" or "vulgar" or "profane".
 
Sonny44 said:
If it were as acceptable as some of you purpose you would not have to make up a cover-up word like "salty" as a substitute for "foul" or "crude" or "vulgar" or "profane".
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Of course not because foul, crude, vulgar, and profane language = salty.
 
why hasn't anyone thrown out the "PC" card yet? lol

There is a legitimate discussion to be had here about language - and there is an interesting discussion to be had about coaches, coach/teachers and teachers... and it applies to swearing - and also to misogynistic, racist, sexist and bigoted language.
 
bags27 said:
one time, I was playing a pick up game on the west coast, drove in for a lefthanded layup with my right elbow swinging to keep defenders away. Guy looks at me and asks, "you from Philly?" Yup....
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just like in your profile pic?
 
why does being from Philly make you more of a "curser"? that, and "he's Italian, what do you expect"...
 
Sonny44 said:
If it were as acceptable as some of you purpose you would not have to make up a cover-up word like "salty" as a substitute for "foul" or "crude" or "vulgar" or "profane".
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Because we don't think it's as bad as you do, apparently.
 
ThisJustIn said:
why hasn't anyone thrown out the "PC" card yet? lol

There is a legitimate discussion to be had here about language - and there is an interesting discussion to be had about coaches, coach/teachers and teachers... and it applies to swearing - and also to misogynistic, racist, sexist and bigoted language.
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I brought it up a couple times. I definitely think there's some paternalism going on, you know, protecting the poor, innocent little girls from the bad words that might scar them for life.
 
Do CD, Shea, and other assistants (visibly/audibly) use this language when 'representing' UConn?

How often do the the players do it? (No need to name names...everyone knows about the old DT incident(s))
 
mudcat said:
Well, Auriemma must disagree because he keeps choosing her as an assistant for international competition.
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Like the team Geno doesnt pick his assts. the committee does.Geno gives his share of input and opinion but doesnt pick players or coaches.Neither does coach K.
 
Phillyconn said:
Lots of coaches curse at the refs. On all levels. JC did it. Sometimes they deserve it.
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I think this is much to do about nothing, personally I give these coaches a lot of credit. The women's game is poorly officiated and that has been the case for years. an expletive every now and then should be expected.
 
cbraarj said:
Like the team Geno doesnt pick his assts. the committee does.Geno gives his share of input and opinion but doesnt pick players or coaches.Neither does coach K.
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Great point. So, not only does Geno respect & want Dawn at his side, USA Basketball respects her and see her as an upstanding example of USA Basketball....
 
tony yusef said:
I think this is much to do about nothing, personally I give these coaches a lot of credit. The women's game is poorly officiated and that has been the case for years. an expletive every now and then should be expected.
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It's also poorly coached. So, shouldn't refs curse at coaches?
 
ThisJustIn said:
Great point. So, not only does Geno respect & want Dawn at his side, USA Basketball respects her and see her as an upstanding example of USA Basketball....
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She has been involved with them for years as a player and coach.
 
USC as a team is so laid back and it losses focus during games and Dawn goes off to get their heads back into the game......Most times it works, today, we will see if she goes their with the game at TX AM.........USC is a 25 minute team and against most teams they can survive. Against, UCONN, ND, Baylor they will get killed......UCONN will expose that 15 minutes of lack of focus........
 
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