Dan Mullen 'rumor'

[huskymedic]

Huskymedic: You get the gold star for reading comprehension! If you look at the two blog articles, the latter clearly says at the top that it's "Fake MSU News" (as opposed to the former which was simply rumor).

As does the URL... poor LRock. Snookered.

 

[FluxTZ]

The Mullen rumor was a gag.

Here is today's post from the same blog.

http://www.forwhomthecowbelltolls.c...ew-hire-dan-mullin-if-mullen-leaves-for-uconn

I don't think the original Mullen rumor was a gag so much as the follow-up article you are referring to.

 

[uconnbill]

This is not a gag as Miss St fans want to win big and think Mullen hasn't done the job. He is also having issues because of being involved with Scientology.
I am not sure he will be the next UCONN coach but he is a solid choice if it goes that way

 

[rich1122]

I thought that due to location MS State would not recruit that well. They are consistently in the Top 15-40 teams over the last 5 years. They are usually in the bottom half, but recruit much better than some of the otherSEC teams.

Looking for somebody like Edsall who seemed to do wonders with marginal classes. Just from the numbers it appears that he did not coach up middle of the road classes in the SEC.

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=9&c=14&view=2&yr=2010

 

[gioff23]

He said 7-8 specifically.

Why don't you do this. Post the teams that have gone from 0-12/1-11 to 7-5/8-4 in one year - or even the bowl teams that were 1-11 the prior year.

There is a pretty big chasm between zero expectations and expectations that are completely unreasonable.

There is some talent on this team, but not nearly enough. Maybe there are a ton of playmakers here that have been held back by the coaching - but it hasn't manifested itself on the field in any way.

Going into next season if Smallwood leaves there isn't even a position group that rates as average in the league. So unless there is a huge influx of talent - I don't see how you can expect a huge jump in wins.

Maybe you catch lighting in a bottle and the conference schedule gives you the bad teams and you avoid the good teams - but expecting a magical turnaround is just setting up failure.

You need a 6 game turnaround (this team is going 0-12 and has cashed it in, IMO). I said 6; I'll let the guy who said 7-8 speak for himself. But to answer your question, 2 in the last decade or so, Hawaii and Miami Ohio. Also, a number of teams have had 6 win improvements, including So Carolina and Ole Miss in the SEC, Oklahoma, and Northwestern. It is not impossible. Can it be done - WTF knows, might depend on who the coach is, who stays, who plays, etc. I simply dont have the same view of the talent on this team that you have. It ain't BCS playoff talent, but it can be molded in to a 6-6 team in the AAC.

 

[whaler11]

You need a 6 game turnaround (this team is going 0-12 and has cashed it in, IMO). I said 6; I'll let the guy who said 7-8 speak for himself. But to answer your question, 2 in the last decade or so, Hawaii and Miami Ohio. Also, a number of teams have had 6 win improvements, including So Carolina and Ole Miss in the SEC, Oklahoma, and Northwestern. It is not impossible. Can it be done - WTF knows, might depend on who the coach is, who stays, who plays, etc. I simply dont have the same view of the talent on this team that you have. It ain't BCS playoff talent, but it can be molded in to a 6-6 team in the AAC.

Can it hapoen? Sure.

Should it be expected? Just set up to disappoint.

 

[upstater]

I thought that due to location MS State would not recruit that well. They are consistently in the Top 15-40 teams over the last 5 years. They are usually in the bottom half, but recruit much better than some of the otherSEC teams.

Looking for somebody like Edsall who seemed to do wonders with marginal classes. Just from the numbers it appears that he did not coach up middle of the road classes in the SEC.

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=9&c=14&view=2&yr=2010

But, before him they won like 2 or 3 games a year for a decade. They've improved. The schools above him in the SEC are simply the best. He has Miss. St. in that 7-9 wins range, which is great for them. They'll never be LSU, Bama, Georgia, Florida, Auburn, A&M or Tennessee. They are competing against Ole Miss and Kentucky.

 

[rich1122]

But, before him they won like 2 or 3 games a year for a decade. They've improved. The schools above him in the SEC are simply the best. He has Miss. St. in that 7-9 wins range, which is great for them. They'll never be LSU, Bama, Georgia, Florida, Auburn, A&M or Tennessee. They are competing against Ole Miss and Kentucky.

Maybe he can work magic. Could we afford $2.5 million then. Remember in Storrs kids actually have to go to classes.

Mississippi St graduates 62%.

 

[upstater]

Maybe he can work magic. Could we afford $2.5 million then. Remember in Storrs kids actually have to go to classes.

Mississippi St graduates 62%.

In the future, no one will have to go to classes, anywhere!

 

[FfldCntyFan]

He said 7-8 specifically.

Why don't you do this. Post the teams that have gone from 0-12/1-11 to 7-5/8-4 in one year - or even the bowl teams that were 1-11 the prior year.

There is a pretty big chasm between zero expectations and expectations that are completely unreasonable.

There is some talent on this team, but not nearly enough. Maybe there are a ton of playmakers here that have been held back by the coaching - but it hasn't manifested itself on the field in any way.

Going into next season if Smallwood leaves there isn't even a position group that rates as average in the league. So unless there is a huge influx of talent - I don't see how you can expect a huge jump in wins.

Maybe you catch lighting in a bottle and the conference schedule gives you the bad teams and you avoid the good teams - but expecting a magical turnaround is just setting up failure.

Off the top of my head I can throw out UTEP when Mike Price took over. I will look up others but I'll wager heavily that this has happened a few times, especially when inept leadership is replaced by quality head coaching.

I don't know what we will do next year and I won't see less than any specific number of wins as a failure (I don't know why you inferred this). I do know that we have the talent to be competitive in this conference, especially once Louisville leaves.

About two months ago I stated on this board to Spackler that he needed to find another hobby. For different reasons I recommend that you do the same. While you are not obsessing to the level that Spackler was (and he did take it even further), your self loathing cannot possibly be healthy. If something made me as miserable as this makes you I would seriously reassess the role that I have allowed it to play in my life. Just a suggestion.

 

[formerlurker]

To be clear, my original Post did not use the word "smut." My word, a word that begins with "p," has an "o" and an "r" and ends with "n," was replaced with the priggish "smut." Just sayin.

The censorship on this site is amazing at times. Now we can't use the word P or N? Well atleast they can't censor dirty pictures!!!

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/a-funny--drawings2.jpg?w=500&h=357

HEY!!! What the..

 

[whaler11]

Off the top of my head I can throw out UTEP when Mike Price took over. I will look up others but I'll wager heavily that this has happened a few times, especially when inept leadership is replaced by quality head coaching.

I don't know what we will do next year and I won't see less than any specific number of wins as a failure (I don't know why you inferred this). I do know that we have the talent to be competitive in this conference, especially once Louisville leaves.

About two months ago I stated on this board to Spackler that he needed to find another hobby. For different reasons I recommend that you do the same. While you are not obsessing to the level that Spackler was (and he did take it even further), your self loathing cannot possibly be healthy. If something made me as miserable as this makes you I would seriously reassess the role that I have allowed it to play in my life. Just a suggestion.

Thanks for the advice buddy. Not sure how understanding how long it takes to fix a broken program equals self-loathing but I'll take it under advisement.

It took some folks a long time to process the reality of Pasqualoni - y'all will get there in this topic too.

 

[pj]

While his coming here would shock me, I second the sentiments earlier that at least the pool is cleaner/better than the one we were forced to swim in last time we needed a HC.

To me, the real question is not what will the HC make - he will do just fine monetarily. My concern is whether the admin is willing to pay up for assistants. It is there, I would suggest we are operating like a mid-major. If I were a potential coach, that might be my first question of WM.

Along with assistant salaries, is budget for recruiting staff. With the recent rule changes you can hire an unlimited non-coaching recruiting staff, and the big schools have large staffs. UConn as far as I know has none -- the coaches are still doing the recruiting. And recruits said the food spread was worse at UConn than other colleges. If you can't spend on recruiting, it's hard to win.

I would love to get Mullen, he's the first name I've heard that is both feasible and really excites me. But he should also have $1-2 mn per year for recruiting staff and $2 mn for assistants. Football is a big ticket item and will need support from boosters/donors to sustain it through these lean years.

 

[huskymedic]

With the recent rule changes you can hire an unlimited non-coaching recruiting staff, and the big schools have large staffs. .

Almost positive that proposed rule change never went through and was suspended.

 

[pj]

Almost positive that proposed rule change never went through and was suspended.

It was implemented earlier this year, and in fact Georgia has already had their non-coaching recruiting director commit an NCAA violation: http://onlineathens.com/marc-weisze...recruiting-director-suspended-ncaa-violations

 

[huskymedic]

It was implemented earlier this year, and in fact Georgia has already had their non-coaching recruiting director commit an NCAA violation: http://onlineathens.com/marc-weisze...recruiting-director-suspended-ncaa-violations

I think he was just normal SEC bad...

http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/2013/ncaa-suspends-controversial-recruiting-proposals/

>>But after reviewing significant feedback, the NCAA suspended two of the most concerning topics in the recruiting deregulation proposals, via NCAA.org:

• Prop. No. RWG-11-2, which eliminated the definition of recruiting coordination functions that must be performed only be a head or assistant coach, be suspended until appropriate modifications can be made. The concept will be considered as the membership ponders its approach to non-coaching personnel.
• Prop. No. RWG-13-5-A, which eliminated restrictions on printed materials sent to prospects other than general correspondence, be suspended to allow for a broader discussion of the rule.

>>Suspending RWG-11-2 is suspending arguably the most controversial proposal, allowing a university to hire an unlimited amount of staff members to contact prospects an unlimited number of times. And doing so is the right call. Essentially, the NCAA has suspended the rule that allows universities to hire an unlimited amount of ‘front office’ personnel to recruit or participate in recruiting<<

 

[Dooley]

Mullen is looking less and less available after Miss State's close loss at Texas A&M and playing well against Bama.

 

[FluxTZ]

Sign me up...

http://www.barstoolsports.com/barst...-bros-in-a-buffalo-wild-wings-eating-contest/

 

[CTGoonie]

Miss State still has two games left (Arkansas and Ole Miss). Lose both and he's gone. Win both he stays. 1-1 who knows... Go Razorbacks!

 

[connman]

Miss State still has two games left (Arkansas and Ole Miss). Lose both and he's gone. Win both he stays. 1-1 who knows... Go Razorbacks!

do u guys really think a coach from the anything and everything goes south would come up here ??????????????

 

[rich1122]

He is from NH and he has a chance to go to a BSC bowl. Never happening for him in the SEC.

 

[uconnbill]

Mullen is looking less and less available after Miss State's close loss at Texas A&M and playing well against Bama.

He is unpopular with a number of people in the SEC and I have heard that there is pressure from some alumni to get rid of him. If he loses the next two he will be out and available

 

[FDNY99]

Mullen was rumored to be a top choice for the PSU job...and was actually VERY annoyed that there were ANY rumors about his interest in that job what so ever. He actually went on a rant to the press about it.
http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/33599393
This time there was no such rant....who knows maybe where there is smoke there is fire this time.

 

[Jax Husky]

Mullen was rumored to be a top choice for the PSU job...and was actually VERY annoyed that there were ANY rumors about his interest in that job what so ever. He actually went on a rant to the press about it.
http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/33599393
This time there was no such rant....who knows maybe where there is smoke there is fire this time.

PSU job? Where is O'Brien going?

 

[FDNY99]

PSU job? Where is O'Brien going?

That was back when they were replacing Joe Pa...when OB was hired. The date on the article I linked was November 30, 2011.

 

[kcc1442]

PSU job? Where is O'Brien going?

I assume he meant when Paterno resigned before they hired O'Brien

 

[huskymedic]

Hmmm... Going to OT in the Egg Bowl.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

I'm actually watching this thinking if that kid made kick it takes Mullen out of play for us.

 

[huskymedic]

I'm actually watching this thinking if that kid made kick it takes Mullen out of play for us.

Scratch that name (unless he somehow decides to leave under his own terms).

 

[progrocks]

What ever happened to this guy?

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/dan-mullen-mississippi-state-into-big-time/
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/dan-mullen-mississippi-state-into-big-time/
Think that if he wants out, he will have his choice at the end of this year and it will not be in the AAC.