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Polley shot over 40% on threes.
CV hacking up bad 3's at the end of games
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Would you like to stop making crap up? Just because a guy got injured his stats don't count?
30.8% on threes is not good. Even you should be able to see that.
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No his stats don't count because he can't play. I'm talking about the present team. And presently, Vital has the highest 3pt% and highest career 3pt %. If you're down 3, Vital is taking that shot and he should. 30.8% is not good, it's awful. But it's slightly less awful than the rest of the team.
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Better than any of the 'healthy' players- does that help?
I think you've lost sight of the current conversation at hand. I think we can all clearly look at stats and see Polley's 3P% but he isn't available.
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You've admitted that Vital's three-point percentage is awful yet you still want him taking a three-point shot at the end of the game. Perfect.
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Have you gotten permission from all the players to consider them healthy?
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Am I in the twilight zone????????
YES I want him taking the 3 point shot. HES THE BEST 3 POINT SHOOTER ON THE TEAM THAT'S HEALTHY
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He was the best outside shooter we had available. You know this. He shot 40% last year. Polley is not available so is irrelevant.
It's becoming truly annoying the way people focus on one or two plays late in a game, and not the other opportunities we had to put the game away well before that. Vital was far from our biggest problem against Memphis.
You guys ever play pickup basketball and everyone on the team is pretty good and plays defense pretty well and rebounds ok but it's a team full of Robins and no Batman on offense? You score a few buckets on fast breaks and a lucky shot here or there but when the score gets close to 11 everyone plays hot potato until someone drives into too much traffic or jacks up a contested jumper?
That's this year's team. Pretty decent defensively, but too many Robins and no Batman (or, more specifically, no one old enough to assume the mantle of the dark knight yet). It's head against the wall infuriating but it is what it is. Vital isn't great and I'm not a huge fan of his but he and AG look worse than they really are because they're forced to attempt something, anything at the end of the shot clock and they just can't.
That's this year's team. Pretty decent defensively, but too many Robins and no Batman (or, more specifically, no one old enough to assume the mantle of the dark knight yet). It's head against the wall infuriating but it is what it is. Vital isn't great and I'm not a huge fan of his but he and AG look worse than they really are because they're forced to attempt something, anything at the end of the shot clock and they just can't.
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It doesn't warrant a response or you can't think of one? Vital and Gilbert have proven time and again they can't make the big shot. You refuting this point makes you seem like an absolute moron.
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Tell us more about the APR theory we saw confirmed by Gilbert's role in the Memphis game.
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I have absolutely no inside knowledge and have never claimed to. I did not endorse that theory in any way. I was explaining what Chief was getting at to someone who didn't understand what he was saying.
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You should know when you've been spanked.
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You're talking about taking one of the smallest sample sizes out there (Shots down 2/3 in the final 2 minutes), with something that's often been defined as unquantifiable (clutch factor) and saying that's statistically more relevant than 4 seasons worth of statistics. That's not how math works.
What are you even going to post about when Vital is gone next year and we have better players?
You will have no one to defend next year bc we won’t have anyone jacking up bad 3’s at the end of the games and we won’t be losing pretty much every single game.
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You're both correct. Vital and Gilbert are not clutch in tight situations. Unfortunately no one else has stepped up either. It was particularly obvious in this game. So you have to play the percentages in spite of the bad options. Dave never advocated for Vital taking end of game shots. He supported the choice given the circumstances.
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He'll support someone else and you and several other posters will dump on someone else if the team underperforms.
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One of the best twitter posts I've seen about CV was something like:
"Christian Vital time" - Christian Vital
"Christian Vital time" - Christian Vital
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Vital isn't even my favorite player on this team. I'm just tired of the negative rap a top 200 player gets that's wildly outperformed expectations over the course of his career. He impacts the game in ways not many other UConn guards have (Steals and Rebounds mainly). Statistically speaking, Vital had one of the better offensive years a UConn guard has ever had last year (against worst competition before you jump down my throat). This year has not been as great, but he's still leading the team in virtually every offensive category while having the highest efficiency (And i'm not saying his efficiency is good).
In a class of Durham, Jackson, Gilbert, Vital, and Diarra. The lowest ranked Vital has had the best career by FAR.
For all the problems this program has had over the last 4 years. Vital has not been the reason, and doesn't deserve to take the brunt of the fall like many fans are so willingly to burden him with.
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I’ll hold you to what you said. CV is the only starting guard in UConn history I’ve ever had a problem with bc historically we’ve always had much better starting guards.
AG too but everyone agrees that he’s not good and he doesn’t have the other things well that CV does so i don’t have to deal with crazy backlash every time i point to his issues.
And I highly doubt davehuskiesfan supports anyone the way he Has supported CV
You and I both know he would have bolted to the NBA if scouts didn’t give him a reality check. Hurley had to reel in his ego a year later. He wants to be the man. He never wanted to be the second or third guy. Finally he’s starting to get it and be slightly more passive. Everything he does outside of his offensive game is great bc if it wasn’t he wouldn’t be on the court. CV especially offensive is not as good as he sees himself not as good you see him. I’ve had a problem with his ego since his sophomore year bc he has NEVER ONCE backed it up. That’s the honest truth. He needs to know what and who he is. A role player. And he should absolutely be deferring to Bouknight for shots in crutch time if he can. We have had far better players with way less ego. It’s frustrating seeing a mediocre player literally flex on other teams and stare at the opposite bench as we are losing. He irked me for a long time and we will improve a lot when he is gone. I’ll be here to tell you I told you so mid season next year. Whether you like it or not
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Nobody else is willing to take a shot with the clock winding down. I’ve never seen more guys try to avoid being the guy in my life. Bunch of Mr Novembers.
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Seriously?? Defer to Bouknight? Who hasn’t hit a jumper since November and gets rid of the ball as fast as he can when time is running out? You guys have raised Bouknight to a level which is totally undeserved based on his level of play. And he might as well be on the bench when we need a shot at the end of a game. He is that unwilling.
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Vital does lots of good things. He is the best rebounding guard that UConn has had since I began following UConn in 1980 or so. He gets lots of steals, always hustles, plays good D and scores a bunch of points.
That said, the flip side is poor decision making and poor shot selection, and RARELY coming up big at crunch time. If our leading scorer can't come up big at crunch time it's going to result in lots of losses in close games. And unfortunately that's where we're at.
And for what it's worth, I think Vital is actually a good shooter. His shooting percentage doesn't reflect that because of the bad shots that he takes but if he was more disciplined that percentage would actually look pretty good, IMO.
How about that one buddy? Eat your dang crow right now
Easy to say after a performance like that. Up to this point, who knew he could do it?
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