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Creighton Post Game Thread

AntG168 said:
Hurley is a fast learner. I hope after this season he never again assembles a roster this void of shot creation. It’s too reliant on sets and very easy to game plan against for the elite coaches. Guys like Newton and Spencer could get you a bucket. Right now that guy hasn’t emerged for us. Losing Liam made it even more alarming.
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Get used to it cause unless we hit the portal hard, it’s more of the same next year
 
Jaker said:
McNeeley gets back healthy,,we will be in good shape. And why constantly whine about Reffing? Serves no purpose, sound like Syracuse fans.
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We can’t expect McNeeley to solve everything. That’s a tough injury for a shooter because it affects the exact “lift” mechanism you need to elevate for the shot. If it’s heavily taped and stiff - he’ll be pushing the shot more and be mechanically off.

He can still do other things - he was getting great and going downhill and making passes. And he will battle on the boards and lead the break. But he might not be the same player we last saw.
 
mauconnfan said:
Diarra was very good almost the whole game but made 2 very bad decisions during crunch time. Too much time left on the 30 sec clock to take that to the hoop on Kalkbrunner bad choice for the lead.
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A few people mentioned this. When I saw that, I took it as a pride type of thing.

Ashworth was way overplaying Diarra’s left hand, and basically daring him to take a free trip to the hoop to challange Kauk with his right. Hassan couldn’t resist the “taunt”
 
80shusky said:
63 points from our offense isn't going to get it done. Are they ever going to figure out how to game plan Kalk sagging in the paint on D? The top half of the key was open the entire game. Why aren't we getting it into the bigs? Hoping for a better performance next game.
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This. I think McDermott just gave a blueprint for how to better handle our sets - by putting your center in deep drop coverage. Granted not everybody has a 7’2” center but Samson often had the ball just inside the 3 pt line and nobody within literally 10 ft of him and never looked to do anything. With Kalk anchored to the paint and available for help, their defenders could stay aggressive and run us off the 3 pt line. I didn’t see any adjustments (but obviously trust in the staff, how could you not at this point?).

Having said that, I thought we played hard. Lots of diving for loose balls so can’t fault the effort.
 
HooperScooper said:
During the NBA draft process the NBA people told Karaban he had to work on hitting threes off movement and the dribble and score off the bounce going to the basket. I think he's been pretty good at the former but he's been terrible at the latter. I wonder if he's trying too hard to show he can get to the basket and it's just not his game. He either loses the ball because his handle isn't great, gets his shot blocked (which seems to happen a lot) or misses the shot. Or commits an offensive foul like today, which I don't remember happening before but figured add it to the bad after today's game. He doesn't seem to draw a foul on those drives although he did against Nova (which was a debatable foul).

I wonder what his percentage scoring is when he goes to the basket? Is he trying too hard to do that to the detriment of the team?
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Creighton was running him off the line so he has to get into the paint and score. Creighton did it him to last year in Omaha and AK basically self checked out of the game, this time he put it on the floor and got into the paint. He just has to make more of those shots, plain and simple, he's capable of stopping on two feet and hitting that floater/push shot.
 
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Got ran off the 3point line and were afraid of Kalkbrenner down low. Took way too many contested floaters.

Team has no cohesiveness on the defensive end, it’s going to limit our ability to go far.
 
UCan3 said:
We don’t keep the play in front of us… lots of chasing,,, slow feet and got beat off cuts all day long. We played better D in 2nd half but too little, too late.

Other question I had is why creighton seemed to be in front of every play and we were lagging.. I don’t know if that’s being slow. Karaban seems like he lost his D assignment quite a few times - looked confused on who he was supposed to be guarding.. That’s not good…
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The pressure on the ball was not there. It seemed like the defense was consciously trying to prevent penetration, and it opened up a lot of terrific entry passes from Creighton’s guys on the perimeter. This team overall doesn’t have the same level of length and athleticism on the perimeter. We all know that. They are having trouble taking multiple things away, whether it be the three, penetration to the rim or into the lane, or entry passes into talented bigs or guys with position inside.
 
Bomber36 said:
No, bad defense cost us the game today.
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63 points isn't going to get it done most times. So I'd say it was the offense that cost them the game. They held Kalkbrenner to 16 points and Ashworth to 12. Hard to complain too much about that. Unfortunately Neal killed us. Was it 2 or 3 years ago when they kept losing games scoring in the 60s? Playing with fire when you do that.
 
UCONNFAN179 said:
Get used to it cause unless we hit the portal hard, it’s more of the same next year
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I expect we’ll hit the portal hard for a playmaking guard or wing to complement the freshman class. That’s what the staff thought we had in Mahaney and they were probably a little overconfident in the Sophomores’ development as guys that could put it on the deck and go create.
 
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UConnTrumbull said:
That’s the thing, it was so obvious. And yet people on here wanted to play it off as nothing. Also not in a good mood
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Everyone here knew losing McNeeley was a big deal. You said it was going to derail the season, that's what people disagreed with because it was dumb
 
HailUConn said:
I may ask for the moon. But he could be a game changer for us if he can shoot that 12-15 footer at free throw area. It's there all the time and he can do it.
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And perhaps rebound more than the does?
 
I would say that being out hustled to loose balls and being out toughed on the boards is a major concern. We get a stop on defense but then the don't secure the board. We conceded the rebound way too often on the offensive end and on the defensive end someone sneaks in to poke it out or there's a Tapout and a scramble that leads to opens shots.

These are lost possessions and this team is not good enough to be giving away possesions.
 
navery12 said:
Everyone here knew losing McNeeley was a big deal. You said it was going to derail the season, that's what people disagreed with because it was dumb
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It already has derailed any chance of a top seed and the Providence to Newark path. And don’t say that doesn’t matter. Hurley even said this stretch without Liam will be meaningful only if we can keep winning, which we are not. Can we win it all as a 6/7/8 seed? Sure, we’ve done it before. But the numbers suggest, no chance.
 
adrock7 said:
We're probably not a Top 10 team with Liam. We're definitely not a Top 10 team without him.
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Probably not. But you know who else doesn’t really look like a top 10 team? Every other team. Auburn and Iowa State might be really good. I’m not sold that anyone else is really.

As for this game, the worst foul call was the one on Diarra at the end of the half. It wasn’t even a foul and took away a made 3. That’s ballgame.
 
UConnTrumbull said:
It already has derailed any chance of a top seed and the Providence to Newark path. And don’t say that doesn’t matter. Hurley even said this stretch without Liam will be meaningful only if we can keep winning, which we are not. Can we win it all as a 6/7/8 seed? Sure, we’ve done it before. But the numbers suggest, no chance.
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I wouldn’t say it’s derailed entirely but we’d have to catch fire and win out once Liam is back and sweep series with Marquette and StJ to get there. Weirder things have happened.

Have to just hope he’s back soon as I’m not even confident we win at Xavier, who just won at Marquette today, without him.
 
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We didn’t play well, we can't complain, we have to get better. I think everyone associated with this team will acknowledge that

And James Breeding is the scum of this earth. Just an incompetent and horrible official
 
WhereistheDove? said:
I expect we’ll hit the portal hard for a playmaking guard or wing to complement the freshman class. That’s what the staff thought we had in Mahaney and they were probably a little overconfident in the Sophomores’ development as guys that could put it on the deck and go create.
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Before the season Hurley said for the team to be championship quality Mahaney was going to have to play at an All American level. Big swing and a miss on that.
 
The Big East refs clearly don't like Hurley. There's a reason why we've dominated the NCAA tournament the last two years, but have had a more difficult road in the Big East. Right now, I'm all for getting out of this conference -- it wouldn't be nationally relevant without us. I'm completely fed up with Big East officiating.
 
adrock7 said:
We're probably not a Top 10 team with Liam. We're definitely not a Top 10 team without him.
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I don’t think we’re a top 25 team without Liam. We are losing to unranked teams like Nova, and Creighton and winning close games against teams like PC. There’s 12 teams in the SEC alone with better records than us and they are playing SEC conference games not mid Big East teams.

If there’s one positive that I see right now it’s that Hurley has the rotation finally figured out and it’s what many of us have been calling for all season. AM backing up Solo at the 2 instead of point. Stew over Ross. AN getting minutes backing up Hass at point.

When Liam is back Stew needs to continue getting big minutes. No more 37 minutes for AK. And on days like today get him out and play Stew alongside Liam.
 
UConnTrumbull said:
It already has derailed any chance of a top seed and the Providence to Newark path. And don’t say that doesn’t matter. Hurley even said this stretch without Liam will be meaningful only if we can keep winning, which we are not. Can we win it all as a 6/7/8 seed? Sure, we’ve done it before. But the numbers suggest, no chance.
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No it hasn't. Before this stretch we were likely looking at a 3-4 seed, now it's probably 4-5 seed. That is by no definition our season being derailed
 
Connecticut13 said:
The Big East refs clearly don't like Hurley. There's a reason why we've dominated the NCAA tournament the last two years, but have had a more difficult road in the Big East. Right now, I'm all for getting out of this conference -- it wouldn't be nationally relevant without us. I'm completely fed up with Big East officiating.
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I love the conference, I hate the refs.
 
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navery12 said:
No it hasn't. Before this stretch we were likely looking at a 3-4 seed, now it's probably 4-5 seed. That is by no definition our season being derailed
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I think we were going undefeated in conference until a huge away game at Marquette had McNeeley not gotten injured. We're at 2 losses now and we'll be dogs at Xavier. Season not derailed but I think we likely lost more than one spot on the seed line.
 
RuffRuff said:
I wouldn’t say it’s derailed entirely but we’d have to catch fire and win out once Liam is back and sweep series with Marquette and StJ to get there. Weirder things have happened.

Have to just hope he’s back soon as I’m not even confident we win at Xavier, who just won at Marquette today, without him.
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That’s fair. Depends how you look at it. We have top 10 aspirations with a healthy Liam. Top 20-25 without. I guess that’s how I look at it.
 
navery12 said:
No it hasn't. Before this stretch we were likely looking at a 3-4 seed, now it's probably 4-5 seed. That is by no definition our season being derailed
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We beat Villanova and Creighton with Liam. Top 5 in the country if he’s healthy. Now, what, 18-20? And a lot of pressure to not drop any more home games or “bad” losses. For instance, at Xavier wouldn’t be a bad loss normally, now it’s a critical game.
 
superjohn said:
I think we were going undefeated in conference until a huge away game at Marquette had McNeeley not gotten injured. We're at 2 losses now and we'll be dogs at Xavier. Season not derailed but I think we likely lost more than one spot on the seed line.
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No disagreement there, we definitely lost a seedline there, but I don't consider that a derailed season. And we're definitely not 1 loss away from being on the bubble like he's claiming either
 
UConnTrumbull said:
We beat Villanova and Creighton with Liam. Top 5 in the country if he’s healthy. Now, what, 18-20? And a lot of pressure to not drop any more home games or “bad” losses. For instance, at Xavier wouldn’t be a bad loss normally, now it’s a critical game.
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You want to panic, I get it. We can discuss this in March and we'll see who was right. Maybe you'll be right and we'll be having this discussion before our 1st round NIT home game
 
mussels said:
A few people mentioned this. When I saw that, I took it as a pride type of thing.

Ashworth was way overplaying Diarra’s left hand, and basically daring him to take a free trip to the hoop to challange Kauk with his right. Hassan couldn’t resist the “taunt”
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But he had to resist key possession needed a good shot there. That certainly wasn’t it.
 
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