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Palatine said:
St Louis is in the Midwest. The arch represents the city being the gateway to the west, NOT the gateway to the south.
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Except for Chuckles County.
 
upstater said:
I was actually quoting what people FROM these states told me. I've never been to Missouri other than the St. Louis airport, and I've not been to many places in Oklahoma outside of the one week I spent in Stillwater and Tulsa. The people I know are from Springfield, MO, where they told me they identify as southern. I've also never been to the Plains states, any of them. I just know that midwesterners always draw a distinction, and it mostly has to do with farmers versus industrial workers. So sure, an Indiana wheat farmer has much more in common with a Nebraska corn farmer than either of them do with a typical Midwestern industrial worker. But in the MW, you have a huge number of blue collar workers or ex blue collar families. This is why the politics are so different from the Plains states.
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Ok, but I'm a person from those states, going back many generations. Have family near Springfield too (and my law school roommate is from there). KS, MO, Nebraska all clearly identify as midwestern. The VOX and 538 surveys show as much. KS was over 80% for example.

Springfield is an outlier. Think of it like Fairfield County. It's in a mountain lakes region bordering Arkansas, and yes, they sound a bit southern (hillbilly really) and identify with the rest of the Ozarks area folks, who are in Arkansas and far eastern OK (well east of Tulsa). The Ozarks are kind of like Appalachia, it's it's own thing.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Ok, but I'm a person from those states, going back many generations. Have family near Springfield too (and my law school roommate is from there). KS, MO, Nebraska all clearly identify as midwestern. The VOX and 538 surveys show as much. KS was over 80% for example.

Springfield is an outlier. Think of it like Fairfield County. It's in a mountain lakes region bordering Arkansas, and yes, they sound a bit southern (hillbilly really) and identify with the rest of the Ozarks area folks, who are in Arkansas and far eastern OK (well east of Tulsa). The Ozarks are kind of like Appalachia, it's it's own thing.
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Have you ever considered though that you think of yourself as midwestern and the people from Michigan are like, "No, try again??!"
 
For the record with these midwesterners......

Whoever thinks a brandy Old Fashioned is better than a bourbon Old Fashioned is nuts.

I tried 'em both as sweet and as sour and the brandy drinks both sucked. The sour bourbon was okay.

Probably wouldn't order again but I'd take it if offered.
 
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Umami Zen said:
My wife(from Iowa) has a dry rub for fish/Walleye from a bait shop near Lake Okoboji on speed dial.. Usually have 8-10 packages in inventory.. Also works great with Atlantic fish ..

BTW.. Some of those pot lucks out in the Mid-West kick butt.
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Walleye is best freshwater eating fish ever. I’m in western Michigan at least 1/2 dozen times a year for work 2 out of 5 dinners every trip are walleye
 
Chin Diesel said:
For the record with these midwesterners......

Whoever thinks a brandy Old Fashioned is better than a bourbon Old Fashioned is nuts.

I tried 'em both as sweet and as sour and the brandy drinks both sucked. The sour bourbon was okay.

Probably wouldn't order again but I'd take it if offered.
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You’re talking about people whose favorite Beer is Grain Belt
 
August_West said:
Walleye is best freshwater eating fish ever. I’m in western Michigan at least 1/2 dozen times a year for work 2 out of 5 dinners every trip are walleye
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I wonder why it isn’t offered more on the east coast in general. It is fairly readily available in Florida to cater to the Upper Midwest crowd. Amazing and mild fish. Never had a bad one.
 
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A five minute internet search would have been much more effective in defining the Midwest.
But then we would have missed out on all the arguements.
 
David 76 said:
A five minute internet search would have been much more effective in defining the Midwest.
But then we would have missed out on all the arguements.
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Totally agree we need to get back to why coach doesn’t play Donovan and Adama together.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
This made me laugh. My wife is from Wisconsin and she makes Brandy Old Fashioned's from time to time. Absolutely horrendous. I gave her a sip of an actual Old Fashioned I was drinking once and she almost threw up.
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I would never order one again once I depart here, but if I'm in the area again and need to blend in with the locals, I know how to do it.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
Might want to brush up on that history.

www.loc.gov

Revolutionary War: Southern Phase, 1778 to 1781 | The American Revolution, 1763 - 1783 | U.S. History Primary Source Timeline | Classroom Materials at the Library of Congress | Library of Congress

The Continental victory at Saratoga in 1777 and the Treaty with the French in 1778 transformed the war, especially for the British.
www.loc.gov
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There were a lot of “loyalists” located in those parts more than any other colonies, history major sorry LOL
 
SportsFan88 said:
There were a lot of “loyalists” located in those parts more than any other colonies, history major sorry LOL
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Yes and the Brits overestimated that and ended up losing quite a lot to guerrilla warfare. But it wasn’t just the mountain people resisting. That’s the post I reacted to.
 
Chin Diesel said:
For the record with these midwesterners......

Whoever thinks a brandy Old Fashioned is better than a bourbon Old Fashioned is nuts.

I tried 'em both as sweet and as sour and the brandy drinks both sucked. The sour bourbon was okay.

Probably wouldn't order again but I'd take it if offered.
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It can be ok with the right brandy. Rye is the best choice.
 
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ConnHuskBask said:
The generalization of people from different regions being real nice, fake nice, kind, fake kind, tell it like it is, etc. has always been dumb.

For my money the two most obnoxious fanbases are ours and Syracuse - not even sure who I'
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You must have never had the pleasure of meeting a Duke fan.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Yes and the Brits overestimated that and ended up losing quite a lot to guerrilla warfare. But it wasn’t just the mountain people resisting. That’s the post I reacted to.
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But that's not what I said.
 
Chin Diesel said:
Sure it is.

They all love Fleet Farm stores. It's a common bond of Midwesterners.
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My buddy and I have a running joke about the other one. When I was first hanging out with him years ago he would always say he was coming from a Farm and Fleet. I had no idea what it was at the time. Now whenever I see him, "It's hey, Farm and Fleet" or "Did you just get back from Farm and Fleet?"
 
superjohn said:
My buddy and I have a running joke about the other one. When I was first hanging out with him years ago he would always say he was coming from a Farm and Fleet. I had no idea what it was at the time. Now whenever I see him, "It's hey, Farm and Fleet" or "Did you just get back from Farm and Fleet?"
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Fleet Farm for men would be like creating a single store for women which combined Target, Michael's, Jo-Ann, Hobby Lobby, Bed Bath and Beyond and Ulta.

Fleet Farm truly encompasses all things midwest for men in one store. Not only were there multiple aisles of ice fishing enclosures and auggers for drilling, there was basically flannel clothing to infinity and 8 or 9 aisles of fishing lures. Heck the gun aisles had a section of shotguns labeled home defense. And then there was the section of snowblowers, another section of tires including studded tires and chains for tires, all the animal feed one could ever need, all sorts of game meat jerky...........................
 
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