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8893 said:
Amazing how sore the arm is now. But that’s about it.

Granted I nailed an incredible bottle of Cab with the steak.

And boy did I nail the steak, right in between medium rare and medium, which is my sweet spot. Thanks in large part to @August_West ’s recommendation of the Thermapen several years ago. It totally saved my ass tonight. The pen don’t lie, but when you are cooking multiple items and the outside temperature is cold, recommended cooking times sure do.
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I don’t know how anyone who claims to like food lives without one. You literally can’t mess it up .
 
August_West said:
I don’t know how anyone who claims to like food lives without one. You literally can’t mess it up .
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The ribeye was around an inch and a half thick, which is a little shy for a cowboy cut; and I also had to cook three of the Shoreline Prime chicken breasts, one of which was around three inches thick. I would have been lost without the Thermapen. The chicken was pure black char on the outside and perfectly moist, tender and flavorful on the inside.

I tried a new method with the steak tonight, dipping it in clarified butter before putting it in the grill, and searing it for four minutes on each side (two minutes then rotate 45 degrees for cross-hatching). The directions I had called for cooking it another 10 minutes or so if it was a 2” steak, so I figured it would need at least five more minutes. But when I checked the Thermapen it was already 125 to 140 all throughout so I pulled it and put it on a hot plate with a vented cover for around 10 minutes while the chicken finished cooking. It could not have been more perfect. Mrs. 8893, my daughter and mother in law were horrified as I gnawed the bone.
 
8893 said:
The ribeye was around an inch and a half thick, which is a little shy for a cowboy cut; and I also had to cook three of the Shoreline Prime chicken breasts, one of which was around three inches thick. I would have been lost without the Thermapen. The chicken was pure black char on the outside and perfectly moist, tender and flavorful on the inside.

I tried a new method with the steak tonight, dipping it in clarified butter before putting it in the grill, and searing it for four minutes on each side (two minutes then rotate 45 degrees for cross-hatching). The directions I had called for cooking it another 10 minutes or so if it was a 2” steak, so I figured it would need at least five more minutes. But when I checked the Thermapen it was already 125 to 140 all throughout so I pulled it and put it on a hot plate with a vented cover for around 10 minutes while the chicken finished cooking. It could not have been more perfect. Mrs. 8893, my daughter and mother in law were horrified as I gnawed the bone.
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Ummm, you're derailing the damned thread.
 
Not off-season for COVID.
 
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Got my first pfizer shot yesterday and all good other than sore arm and mild headache.

Thought I'd also throw out there that due to site I got it at being a mobile clinic they won't have another one for 4 weeks instead of normal recommended 3 wks for pfizer. Consulted a bunch of medical professionals (pharmacists, immunologist, microbiologist subject matter expert, etc) and was assured that there's actually a lot of evidence popping up and studies (especially in europe) that waiting longer between doses is just as effective and sometimes more effective so nothing to worry about if you don't hit the 3 wks (pfizer) or 4wks (moderna) right on the dot

I'm an engineer so my microbio colleagues simple explanation to me was: "Biology isn't engineering. Our tolerances are wider"

Glad to see lots of BYers getting their shots. Good luck to all and hope everyone stays healthy!
 
huskiesNhoos said:
Got my first pfizer shot yesterday and all good other than sore arm and mild headache.

Thought I'd also throw out there that due to site I got it at being a mobile clinic they won't have another one for 4 weeks instead of normal recommended 3 wks for pfizer. Consulted a bunch of medical professionals (pharmacists, immunologist, microbiologist subject matter expert, etc) and was assured that there's actually a lot of evidence popping up and studies (especially in europe) that waiting longer between doses is just as effective and sometimes more effective so nothing to worry about if you don't hit the 3 wks (pfizer) or 4wks (moderna) right on the dot

I'm an engineer so my microbio colleagues simple explanation to me was: "Biology isn't engineering. Our tolerances are wider"

Glad to see lots of BYers getting their shots. Good luck to all and hope everyone stays healthy!
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It’s funny you mention that because i actually tried to bump my second Pfizer shot out to four weeks because we were potentially planning to be away on the date for which they scheduled me and they all recommended against it, but I think that had more to do with their scheduling system and the uncertainty about what would happen if I gave up that slot.
 
8893 said:
It’s funny you mention that because i actually tried to bump my second Pfizer shot out to four weeks because we were potentially planning to be away on the date for which they scheduled me and they all recommended against it, but I think that had more to do with their scheduling system and the uncertainty about what would happen if I gave up that slot.
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I think it makes their scheduling easier so they can make sure they have enough for the second.
 
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Wife and I got our first Pfizer shots yesterday - so far, just a sore arm
 
Had the second Moderna shot last Thursday and the only issue was a very minor soreness in my arm. Did some exercises to address the soreness and the next morning there zero issues at all. Four days later, still no issues and I feel great. I was told that younger people getting Moderna had a higher percentage and more severe reactions to the shot than older people. My daughter became very tired after her second shot and missed a couple of days of work, but was fine after that.
 
My wife and I got Moderna doses #2 over the weekend. The only thing I felt was a little fatigue and a little sore arm, that's it. My wife had a fever & chills which started 8-10 hours after getting the dose and lasted for next 24 hours (had to take a sick day). For the 1st dose (4 weeks prior), we only felt sore arms.

From my knowledge it does seem men experience lesser side effects than women after getting #2.
 
Marat said:
My wife and I got Moderna doses #2 over the weekend. The only thing I felt was a little fatigue and a little sore arm, that's it. My wife had a fever & chills which started 8-10 hours after getting the dose and lasted for next 24 hours (had to take a sick day). For the 1st dose (4 weeks prior), we only felt sore arms.

From my knowledge it does seem men experience lesser side effects than women after getting #2.
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Would be interesting to see if that's the case across all recipients. And if so, why?
Again I have always suspected there is more to this virus on a genetic level then we are aware of. It has been fatal in men at a greater rate than womem.
 
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My sister in law just got first vax for April 2. Was June 9th.
 
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Kathy said:
Would be interesting to see if that's the case across all recipients. And if so, why?
Again I have always suspected there is more to this virus on a genetic level then we are aware of. It has been fatal in men at a greater rate than womem.
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I heard a report on NPR yesterday that women comprise some 70% of the Covid-19 "long-haulers."
 
I have read people with type o blood have less chance of getting Covid and experiencing after effects. I have type o and had no after effects. Moderna.
 
I got my shot at Dollar Store yesterday. I didn’t know they were doing Covid shots. The guy in the parking lot near the dumpster said I was first in line when I drove in. Evidently they’re going with the mfg Pisser for their shots.

Went to UConn Health website via the VAMs platform on Friday morning at 6:30 am and they had lots of openings for this week. I think it’s since filled up. Had my Pfizer shot Monday morning with no side effects other than tired. Excellent people there and well organized. It seems everyone is finding success in multiple areas which is great.
 
8893 said:
I heard a report on NPR yesterday that women comprise some 70% of the Covid-19 "long-haulers."
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I heard that too. Not surprising as women are more prone to autoimmune disorders, esp after infection, then men.
 
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J187Money said:
WSJ Article on Long Covid - basically said that it may or may not be real - and the org pushing it is questionable. (I'm not making a value judgement but just putting it here as a point of view)

www.wsj.com

Opinion | The Dubious Origins of Long Covid

Echoes of chronic fatigue in the effort to blame the coronavirus for a host of questionable symptoms.
www.wsj.com www.wsj.com
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Can't read the whole article due to the payroll- but it is 'opnion'. It also reminds me of how Chronic Fatigue was treated when first identified.
Or the fertility doc that was shocked how bad my endometriosis was even though I had described severe symptoms to him prior to surgery. I guess he figured I was just a wimpy female and couldn't possibly be in as much pain as I was.
 
Palatine said:
My wife got Pfizer #1 yesterday and this morning she can't lift her arm above her shoulder. So I'm biting the bullet and making the coffee.

I have had both Moderna shots and neither produced any side effects or pain.
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Taking one for the team.
 
Kathy said:
Can't read the whole article due to the payroll- but it is 'opnion'. It also reminds me of how Chronic Fatigue was treated when first identified.
Or the fertility doc that was shocked how bad my endometriosis was even though I had described severe symptoms to him prior to surgery. I guess he figured I was just a wimpy female and couldn't possibly be in as much pain as I was.
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It is an opinion - but it is also the "opinion" of Body Politic that long COVID is real.

If you ask an average citizen - is chronic lyme disease real? - they will say yes (I had this conversation with my wife this morning - she definitively believes it is real) - but the NIH says it isn't real.


It isn't a matter of "do people have something wrong with them" - it is the attribution that is the problem. And IF long-COVID isn't really a thing - then lots of people are going to misdiagnose themselves and be mistreated because they aren't looking for the real underlying medical issue.

An excerpt from the article:

Why include the reported symptoms of those who never had a confirmed infection? “Due to the severe lack of testing available in many areas and the prevalence of false negatives, we do not believe people’s experiences with COVID-19 symptoms should be discounted because they did not receive a positive test result,” the survey authors wrote in their first report. “We believe future research must consider the experiences of all people with COVID-19 symptoms, regardless of testing status, in order to better understand the virus and underscore the importance of early and widespread testing.”

I'm not sure I'm interested in taking medical advice from a group that is counting symptoms from people that might have not actually had COVID. But everyone can make their own decisions.
 
J187Money said:
WSJ Article on Long Covid - basically said that it may or may not be real - and the org pushing it is questionable. (I'm not making a value judgement but just putting it here as a point of view)

www.wsj.com

Opinion | The Dubious Origins of Long Covid

Echoes of chronic fatigue in the effort to blame the coronavirus for a host of questionable symptoms.
www.wsj.com www.wsj.com
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Kathy said:
Can't read the whole article due to the payroll- but it is 'opnion'. It also reminds me of how Chronic Fatigue was treated when first identified.
Or the fertility doc that was shocked how bad my endometriosis was even though I had described severe symptoms to him prior to surgery. I guess he figured I was just a wimpy female and couldn't possibly be in as much pain as I was.
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J187Money said:
It is an opinion - but it is also the "opinion" of Body Politic that long COVID is real.

If you ask an average citizen - is chronic lyme disease real? - they will say yes (I had this conversation with my wife this morning - she definitively believes it is real) - but the NIH says it isn't real.


It isn't a matter of "do people have something wrong with them" - it is the attribution that is the problem. And IF long-COVID isn't really a thing - then lots of people are going to misdiagnose themselves and be mistreated because they aren't looking for the real underlying medical issue.

An excerpt from the article:

Why include the reported symptoms of those who never had a confirmed infection? “Due to the severe lack of testing available in many areas and the prevalence of false negatives, we do not believe people’s experiences with COVID-19 symptoms should be discounted because they did not receive a positive test result,” the survey authors wrote in their first report. “We believe future research must consider the experiences of all people with COVID-19 symptoms, regardless of testing status, in order to better understand the virus and underscore the importance of early and widespread testing.”

I'm not sure I'm interested in taking medical advice from a group that is counting symptoms from people that might have not actually had COVID. But everyone can make their own decisions.
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There are some chronic pain and/or fatigue syndromes that some treaters believe are "trashcan" diagnoses and that other treaters believe are real. I've deposed scores of people and doctors about them over the years and don't feel any closer to the "truth," except that in most instances these seem to be diagnoses of exclusion, meaning there is little to no objective basis but there is no other known explanation. Fibromyalgia, reflex sympathetic dystrophy and a few others. I suspect that long Covid will be one of these.
 
8893 said:
There are some chronic pain and/or fatigue syndromes that some treaters believe are "trashcan" diagnoses and that other treaters believe are real. I've deposed scores of people and doctors about them over the years and don't feel any closer to the "truth," except that in most instances these seem to be diagnoses of exclusion, meaning there is little to no objective basis but there is no other known explanation. Fibromyalgia, reflex sympathetic dystrophy and a few others. I suspect that long Covid will be one of these.
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That is a rational take. My sense of long Covid is pretty much the same as long anything: if you have something that causes your O2 saturation to drop significantly over days or weeks and requires hospitalization, with your body struggling to fight it, then you're likely to have some ongoing impact from that. This is true for Influenza A as well, there is "long Flu".

Visited my parents last week because my Dad was in the hospital a few weeks back with Covid-like symptoms, despite many negative tests, and even a lung biopsy. Nothing was working. Broad spectrum antibiotics, nothing. It was exactly like an episode of House. Steroids finally helped and he is slowly improving at home (still with O2 needed at times). After countless tests and the biopsy, they diagnosed Cryptogenic Organizing Pneumonia. Essentially, they still don't know since COP is pretty much a cop out diagnosis, a diagnosis of exclusion as you said.
 
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