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Corey Floyd visiting Providence

rip7774 said:
I don't consider Martin a guard at all. More of a 3/4, his strength was his strength and improved outside shooting. We had one competent ballhandler until Andre stepped up and he's still a wing to me.

I think we were Sweet Sixteen at a minimum if Hurley took a point or combo last offseason. Wasted what could have been a deep run imo.
Imagine Cole getting to play off the ball with his stroke?? Woulda been nice. He wore down late in games often and missed big free throws on occasion I don't think he'd have missed if not playing high leverage 35+ mins.

I try to be open-minded, but feel pretty certain last year's guards (again, not counting Martin who did a ton of damage on the glass) were among the worst group (obv Cole was a warrior) we've had since i started watching in 1994. Again in the Pantheon of worst units, I remember the dire straights behind Marcus for sure, though he was an absolute stud, Cole was terrific but I don't think he's on Marcus' level. He was a first rounder and dominant college player.

Point is, I don't want Hurley to ever be in that situation again. I remember Calhoun saying something similar after that Williams and no one else year.
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Cannot imagine watching the team last season and still insisting that Martin can't play guard. Hard to imagine being that myopic.
 
CallMeBruce said:
Cannot imagine watching the team last season and still insisting that Martin can't play guard. Hard to imagine being that myopic.
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Yes you’re right our ballhandling was amazing better than most years at UConn - Esp when Cole sat for 30 secs and our half court offense was a Picasso most of the season.

Denham Brown played guard too but I would consider him a 3 all day. I guess it’s semantics and we are in position less basketball. But the Boneyard is often all about personal attacks.
 
rip7774 said:
Yes you’re right our ballhandling was amazing better than most years at UConn - Esp when Cole sat for 30 secs and our half court offense was a Picasso most of the season.

Denham Brown played guard too but I would consider him a 3 all day. I guess it’s semantics and we are in position less basketball. But the Boneyard is often all about personal attacks.
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Martin had more handle than Denham and competently played the 2 Guard position last season. He picked his spots to drive into the paint but he was steady most of the season.
 
bigknight3 said:
Martin had more handle than Denham and competently played the 2 Guard position last season. He picked his spots to drive into the paint but he was steady most of the season.
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Fair points. I guess we all see it differently. I’m always gonna favor having two guys that can get shots with the shot clock running down. Even Cole struggled often at end of games (not Nova I know).

My point is just we weren’t good enough handling the ball by UConn standards. And I’m not gonna be ok with lowering the standards and be happy with round 1 exits.

Further, we couldn’t take Cole out for any amount of time because of that deficiency. No matter who we call a guard we couldn’t take him out or let him play off the ball enough.

Let’s just agree to disagree. I see the other side for sure tho I’m kinda shocked people are ok with how we handled last year, but it is what it is.

Let’s just never be in that situation again!
 
rip7774 said:
Fair points. I guess we all see it differently. I’m always gonna favor having two guys that can get shots with the shot clock running down. Even Cole struggled often at end of games (not Nova I know).

My point is just we weren’t good enough handling the ball by UConn standards. And I’m not gonna be ok with lowering the standards and be happy with round 1 exits.

Further, we couldn’t take Cole out for any amount of time because of that deficiency. No matter who we call a guard we couldn’t take him out or let him play off the ball enough.

Let’s just agree to disagree. I see the other side for sure tho I’m kinda shocked people are ok with how we handled last year, but it is what it is.

Let’s just never be in that situation again!
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I don't know what were disagreeing about lol...

Martin was successful as a straight up 2 guard. 3pt shooting, some post up opportunities, some drives to the paint, finishing in traffic at a higher % than the prior season, and defending the wing.

But he wasn't a combo guard (ie. had no point guard / main ball handler responsibilities)

I agree we had a lack of ball handling over all and couldn't take Cole off the floor. But that was because Gaffney couldn't consistently handle the pressure of the role for the 4 mind per half that Hurley would've like to give Cole a rest. And Digginsc was even worse, to the point of being unplayable even in garbage time.

I think the goal is to fix that for next season but we have to be patient and wait to see how the staff fills out the roster.
 
rip7774 said:
Yes you’re right our ballhandling was amazing better than most years at UConn - Esp when Cole sat for 30 secs and our half court offense was a Picasso most of the season.

Denham Brown played guard too but I would consider him a 3 all day. I guess it’s semantics and we are in position less basketball. But the Boneyard is often all about personal attacks.
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You wouldn't have to mischaracterize what I'd said if you weren't so obviously wrong.
 
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businesslawyer said:
Huh? We were good in 2005 without a backup point guard. What in the world does that have to do with what I actually said?
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You said our guard depth was worse in 05. I pointed out we still managed to have a better season since the poster u replied to the as using guard depth as a justification for last season
 
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bluestreak said:
Why do you say that? He has that option doesn't he?
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He does but there's really 2 options for why he left, playing time or some other issue with Hurley. I don't think it's playing time, but even if it was more isn't available now. And hard to say any other issue has been resolved either
 
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navery12 said:
He does but there's really 2 options for why he left, playing time or some other issue with Hurley. I don't think it's playing time, but even if it was more isn't available now. And hard to say any other issue has been resolved either
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Hypothetically his issue can be nothing more than he took umbrage that Hurley chose to recruit over Jalen and Sool. He might have been upset with that and chose to express his loyalty to his friendship with a fellow player over the coach and the program by entering the portal. Nothing wrong with that sentiment. Not everything aligns with how fans want them to align. In this scenario I can see Hurley possibly reconsidering if CFJ reconsiders. But as you indicate playing time might be different if CFJ never declared.
 
mauconnfan said:
I’m starting to hope he didn’t. Hope they gave him their crap pizza something about his departure is turning sour on me.
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“ Seriously, where is the pizza? This is just bread with sauce on it.“​
 
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two of the oddest thoughts that i have read today were the possibilities of either jmoney of corey returning.
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Cole Beasley quit football during his rookie training camp, came back a week later, and has gone on to play 10 NFL seasons.
 
NotADime89 said:
Talking about moving goal posts.....some people in here are unbelievable lol
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The comment was "once you quit your job, your not going back". I provided a relevant sports example.

We also know there are players who return after entering the portal. It happens. No I don't have the name of a collage player to reference of the top of my head.

Actually, the Beasley example came to mind to @huskyfan224 's "he isn't committed" comment. Re-committing to the team you left can happen. That's all
 
bigknight3 said:
The comment was "once you quit your job, your not going back". I provided a relevant sports example.

We also know there are players who return after entering the portal. It happens. No I don't have the name of a collage player to reference of the top of my head.

Actually, the Beasley example came to mind to @huskyfan224 's "he isn't committed" comment. Re-committing to the team you left can happen. That's all
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Sure it can happen, but these aren’t pro athletes and this is a much smaller group. Chemistry is huge and he isn’t quitting the sport, he plans to go somewhere else and be the opposition.

Seeing someone not buy into the program and leaving while others are bought in wouldn’t bode well for a return. Players wouldn’t forget about it

Pretty sure the whole situation with Dawson Garcia this year would be similar. He had a legit reason to be away, not because he didn’t wanna play, but it was a family matter. UNC players acted like they didn’t know who he was
 
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Vancat said:
I'm thinking that ship has sailed. No real knowledge, but once you quit a job you're not going back.
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People tell us they're leaving all the time. If they're good, we see if there isn't something we can do to get them to change their mind. People in business want to make money. People in basketball want to win games. Not everything is taken personally, even if it is on messenger boards.
 
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Vancat said:
I'm thinking that ship has sailed. No real knowledge, but once you quit a job you're not going back.
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Funny you said that - total anecdotal story - I worked with a guy that quit twice to go to the same company, both times.

First time, he was giving notice, and they matched the salary. So he stayed.

Second time, he gives notice, formally accepts new job, company decides not to play ball this time thinking he's going to the same company again, must be for real this time. 2 weeks later, THE DAY OF HIS GOING AWAY PARTY AND LAST DAY AT COMPANY, says he is reconsidering. It was too late to cancel the going away party, so it was a welcome back party... One of the stranger events of my career.

When the covid firing started, he was predictably the very first casualty. I think he tried going back to the other company for round 3 but shockingly didn't get a call back. No need to feel bad for him, he landed on his feet in a better situation (always seems to work out that way for some of us)
 
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