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So you're saying if we dont target them they arent a priority?Anyone you target recruiting is a priority.
So you're saying if we dont target them they arent a priority?Anyone you target recruiting is a priority.
My point was if hurley looks at him as a priority over other better ranked players he obviously isn’t looking at him as a backup or safety type player. Your missing the nuance of the discussionAnyone you target recruiting is a priority.
Indeed.So you're saying if we dont target them they arent a priority?
His ranking will be affected by a shortened AAU schedule this past summer and an adjusted HS schedule this year.. Classic Dan Hurley move to build relationships before rankings bump.. Ala Sool/Samson/JHawk... Corey plays way better than his ranking...No longer "under the radar".. Coaches/Staff with an eye for talent see his upside..Trust the Carpenter..My point was if hurley looks at him as a priority over other better ranked players he obviously isn’t looking at him as a backup or safety type player. Your missing the nuance of the discussion
His ranking will be affected by a shortened AAU schedule this past summer and an adjusted HS schedule this year.. Classic Dan Hurley move to build relationships before rankings bump.. Ala Sool/Samson/JHawk... Corey plays way better than his ranking...No longer "under the radar".. Coaches/Staff with an eye for talent see his upside..Trust the Carpenter..
Never once did I say I doubted hurley, I said hurley wouldn’t designate a guy our priority at the 2/3 and be thinking of him as a backup/brendan adams type. Was speaking more about expectations once he arrives if hurley is choosing to focus more effort on him than other higher ranked playersHis ranking will be affected by a shortened AAU schedule this past summer and an adjusted HS schedule this year.. Classic Dan Hurley move to build relationships before rankings bump.. Ala Sool/Samson/JHawk... Corey plays way better than his ranking...No longer "under the radar".. Coaches/Staff with an eye for talent see his upside..Trust the Carpenter..
His ranking will be affected by a shortened AAU schedule this past summer and an adjusted HS schedule this year.. Classic Dan Hurley move to build relationships before rankings bump.. Ala Sool/Samson/JHawk... Corey plays way better than his ranking...No longer "under the radar".. Coaches/Staff with an eye for talent see his upside..Trust the Carpenter..
JC "wrote the book"..This was also a specialty of JC.
Not sure where that vibe came from but I'll say one last thing about CF before I move on to another thread.. If we are lucky enough to get his commitment sometime in the future.. IMO.. By the time he steps on campus in Storrs.. His ranking will have been adjusted to be in the Sool/Samson/JHawk range because of his continued improvement in HS prior to college..Never once did I say I doubted hurley, I said hurley wouldn’t designate a guy our priority at the 2/3 and be thinking of him as a backup/brendan adams type. Was speaking more about expectations once he arrives if hurley is choosing to focus more effort on him than other higher ranked players
Posters seem to feel I have belittled Floyd by my comparison to Adams, and, by using the term 'rotational player' that I do not equate to 'back up' player. That feeling is extrapolated to suggesting it is absurd that Hurley sees him in that role if he is the top target at guard. That isn't really what I'm saying, so for some stupid reason I feel the need to reply.
When I wrote my original comment, I was viewing our typical roster as having 3 types of players. The alpha dogs that the opponents and sports columnists focus on and define the team identity. Secondly, all the other regular players rotating in and out, and thirdly, the bench reserves who we don't expect to regularly get in the games.
It is correct that I don't see him as the alpha dog player on a future team and maybe I'm wrong. To me, that is not a knock, and puts him in the same category as Gaffney who is a quality guard playing an important role, but likely will not be asked to carry the team on his back. Heck, I see Jackson as an alpha player, and even he likely won't be starting right away. Diggins will be a star but won't be confining Cole and Gaffney to the bench on day 1. Just about every player Hurley can recruit will need to develop to get court time.
The comparison to Adams is born out of style and timing. We lose Adams and will be replacing that scholarship with the 2022 class. Adams has a strong body style as does Floyd, they are about the same size, they both try to play tough defense. Adams shot just over 100 3's last year at 28%, he makes 40% in practice and Hurley said would be playing starters minutes if he was doing that in games. To me that suggests the rest of his game is 'starter worthy' in Hurley's eyes. Adams played 22 minutes a game as a soph with some quality outings, (admittedly with a short roster). I just don't think I have dissed Floyd to make the case that he could be recruited to play the same 22 minutes, provide some of the same toughness, and, with the possibility of maintaining that amount of play in a competitive roster if he shoots better.
Sorry for making a redundant post.
You have stated your perspective well and I agree with it.. As they say in Jersey.. Fuggedaboutit.. All good...Posters seem to feel I have belittled Floyd by my comparison to Adams, and, by using the term 'rotational player' that I do not equate to 'back up' player. That feeling is extrapolated to suggesting it is absurd that Hurley sees him in that role if he is the top target at guard. That isn't really what I'm saying, so for some stupid reason I feel the need to reply.
When I wrote my original comment, I was viewing our typical roster as having 3 types of players. The alpha dogs that the opponents and sports columnists focus on and define the team identity. Secondly, all the other regular players rotating in and out, and thirdly, the bench reserves who we don't expect to regularly get in the games.
It is correct that I don't see him as the alpha dog player on a future team and maybe I'm wrong. To me, that is not a knock, and puts him in the same category as Gaffney who is a quality guard playing an important role, but likely will not be asked to carry the team on his back. Heck, I see Jackson as an alpha player, and even he likely won't be starting right away. Diggins will be a star but won't be confining Cole and Gaffney to the bench on day 1. Just about every player Hurley can recruit will need to develop to get court time.
The comparison to Adams is born out of style and timing. We lose Adams and will be replacing that scholarship with the 2022 class. Adams has a strong body style as does Floyd, they are about the same size, they both try to play tough defense. Adams shot just over 100 3's last year at 28%, he makes 40% in practice and Hurley said would be playing starters minutes if he was doing that in games. To me that suggests the rest of his game is 'starter worthy' in Hurley's eyes. Adams played 22 minutes a game as a soph with some quality outings, (admittedly with a short roster). I just don't think I have dissed Floyd to make the case that he could be recruited to play the same 22 minutes, provide some of the same toughness, and, with the possibility of maintaining that amount of play in a competitive roster if he shoots better.
Sorry for making a redundant post.
Nothing I disagree with, my opinion was that if hurley likes him over higher ranked players he obviously has high expectations for the kid. I don’t know how you read from my post of a distrust of hurleys plan.Not sure where that vibe came from but I'll say one last thing about CF before I move on to another thread.. If we are lucky enough to get his commitment sometime in the future.. IMO.. By the time he steps on campus in Storrs.. His ranking will have been adjusted to be in the Sool/Samson/JHawk range because of his continued improvement in HS prior to college..
Think we agree on this.. So let's move on..Nothing I disagree with, my opinion was that if hurley likes him over higher ranked players he obviously has high expectations for the kid. I don’t know how you read from my post of a distrust of hurleys plan.
Posters seem to feel I have belittled Floyd by my comparison to Adams, and, by using the term 'rotational player' that I do not equate to 'back up' player. That feeling is extrapolated to suggesting it is absurd that Hurley sees him in that role if he is the top target at guard. That isn't really what I'm saying, so for some stupid reason I feel the need to reply.
When I wrote my original comment, I was viewing our typical roster as having 3 types of players. The alpha dogs that the opponents and sports columnists focus on and define the team identity. Secondly, all the other regular players rotating in and out, and thirdly, the bench reserves who we don't expect to regularly get in the games.
It is correct that I don't see him as the alpha dog player on a future team and maybe I'm wrong. To me, that is not a knock, and puts him in the same category as Gaffney who is a quality guard playing an important role, but likely will not be asked to carry the team on his back. Heck, I see Jackson as an alpha player, and even he likely won't be starting right away. Diggins will be a star but won't be confining Cole and Gaffney to the bench on day 1. Just about every player Hurley can recruit will need to develop to get court time.
The comparison to Adams is born out of style and timing. We lose Adams and will be replacing that scholarship with the 2022 class. Adams has a strong body style as does Floyd, they are about the same size, they both try to play tough defense. Adams shot just over 100 3's last year at 28%, he makes 40% in practice and Hurley said would be playing starters minutes if he was doing that in games. To me that suggests the rest of his game is 'starter worthy' in Hurley's eyes. Adams played 22 minutes a game as a soph with some quality outings, (admittedly with a short roster). I just don't think I have dissed Floyd to make the case that he could be recruited to play the same 22 minutes, provide some of the same toughness, and, with the possibility of maintaining that amount of play in a competitive roster if he shoots better.
Sorry for making a redundant post.
1. If you're using the term "rotational player" to describe what everyone else would call a "solid starter," I would suggest you not use your own term for things and wonder why no one understands you.
2. Adams was a last minute recruit when we changed coaches and Hurley found someone he thought could add something to fill a roster spot. He was not someone Hurley targeted a year and a half before an early signing date to play for UConn. And using "practice statistics" to describe someone who has played two seasons is more than a little bizarre.
There's a difference between recruiting a kid to URI and recruiting a kid to UConnI may be wrong but wasn’t Adams was recruited and signed to play for Hurley at URI.
So yes he was targeted by Hurley for a long time. So with that bring the case you look pretty foolish !!!
He was someone Hurley wanted here even after he changed jobs..
Insert foot in mouth please...
There's a difference between recruiting a kid to URI and recruiting a kid to UConn
This turned into an Adams/Floyd thread because Adams was brought up in regards to Floyd's recruitment and the role he can fill, some people including myself disputed this because we think Floyd is better and someone Hurley is prioritizing...Do you think Mr. Hurley is and was aware of that? But yet still brought him here?
Maybe tough kids who work their butts off are a important part of a winning program.
JC did not recruit all 5* and understood the need for guys just like Adams.
But I guess you expect all stud 5*’s
No explanation on your part neededPosters seem to feel I have belittled Floyd by my comparison to Adams, and, by using the term 'rotational player' that I do not equate to 'back up' player. That feeling is extrapolated to suggesting it is absurd that Hurley sees him in that role if he is the top target at guard. That isn't really what I'm saying, so for some stupid reason I feel the need to reply.
When I wrote my original comment, I was viewing our typical roster as having 3 types of players. The alpha dogs that the opponents and sports columnists focus on and define the team identity. Secondly, all the other regular players rotating in and out, and thirdly, the bench reserves who we don't expect to regularly get in the games.
It is correct that I don't see him as the alpha dog player on a future team and maybe I'm wrong. To me, that is not a knock, and puts him in the same category as Gaffney who is a quality guard playing an important role, but likely will not be asked to carry the team on his back. Heck, I see Jackson as an alpha player, and even he likely won't be starting right away. Diggins will be a star but won't be confining Cole and Gaffney to the bench on day 1. Just about every player Hurley can recruit will need to develop to get court time.
The comparison to Adams is born out of style and timing. We lose Adams and will be replacing that scholarship with the 2022 class. Adams has a strong body style as does Floyd, they are about the same size, they both try to play tough defense. Adams shot just over 100 3's last year at 28%, he makes 40% in practice and Hurley said would be playing starters minutes if he was doing that in games. To me that suggests the rest of his game is 'starter worthy' in Hurley's eyes. Adams played 22 minutes a game as a soph with some quality outings, (admittedly with a short roster). I just don't think I have dissed Floyd to make the case that he could be recruited to play the same 22 minutes, provide some of the same toughness, and, with the possibility of maintaining that amount of play in a competitive roster if he shoots better.
Sorry for making a redundant post.

Posters seem to feel I have belittled Floyd by my comparison to Adams, and, by using the term 'rotational player' that I do not equate to 'back up' player. That feeling is extrapolated to suggesting it is absurd that Hurley sees him in that role if he is the top target at guard. That isn't really what I'm saying, so for some stupid reason I feel the need to reply.
When I wrote my original comment, I was viewing our typical roster as having 3 types of players. The alpha dogs that the opponents and sports columnists focus on and define the team identity. Secondly, all the other regular players rotating in and out, and thirdly, the bench reserves who we don't expect to regularly get in the games.
It is correct that I don't see him as the alpha dog player on a future team and maybe I'm wrong. To me, that is not a knock, and puts him in the same category as Gaffney who is a quality guard playing an important role, but likely will not be asked to carry the team on his back. Heck, I see Jackson as an alpha player, and even he likely won't be starting right away. Diggins will be a star but won't be confining Cole and Gaffney to the bench on day 1. Just about every player Hurley can recruit will need to develop to get court time.
The comparison to Adams is born out of style and timing. We lose Adams and will be replacing that scholarship with the 2022 class. Adams has a strong body style as does Floyd, they are about the same size, they both try to play tough defense. Adams shot just over 100 3's last year at 28%, he makes 40% in practice and Hurley said would be playing starters minutes if he was doing that in games. To me that suggests the rest of his game is 'starter worthy' in Hurley's eyes. Adams played 22 minutes a game as a soph with some quality outings, (admittedly with a short roster). I just don't think I have dissed Floyd to make the case that he could be recruited to play the same 22 minutes, provide some of the same toughness, and, with the possibility of maintaining that amount of play in a competitive roster if he shoots better.
Sorry for making a redundant post.
I may be wrong but wasn’t Adams was recruited and signed to play for Hurley at URI.
So yes he was targeted by Hurley for a long time. So with that bring the case you look pretty foolish !!!
He was someone Hurley wanted here even after he changed jobs..
Insert foot in mouth please...
Do you think Mr. Hurley is and was aware of that? But yet still brought him here?
Maybe tough kids who work their butts off are a important part of a winning program.
JC did not recruit all 5* and understood the need for guys just like Adams.
But I guess you expect all stud 5*’s
For those who aren't inclined to watch the whole Roselle vs Trenton game. Floyd was 3-4 from 3 on open looks, had 1 good take to the basket before the defense was set, a loose ball ended with him at the rim, and he followed a shot where nobody blocked out. He also had a nice pull up 15ft that went down. The announcers said 17pts towards the end of the game and I don't think he added to that. He got a couple of good defensive rebounds contesting with similar sized players, missed a breakaway dunk, had a transition dunk blocked from behind without being fouled. He turned over the ball once that lead to a Trenton breakaway dunk, threw away a pass, and had 2 other passes tipped to become scrambles for loose balls that ended up not being turnovers. There was only 6 to 8 times where he was handling the ball looking to make any type of play, so he is not ball dominate. Totally plays with pace in the flow. Ideal to play with a guy like Diggins.
This was the first time our former target Niels Lane played in a Roselle game I happened to watch. He has a nice smooth game, above the rim finisher, and a decent shot. It is also the first time I've seen CJ Wilcher miss much, although he hit a couple late. Wilcher is my dark horse to make freshman noise in the Big East.
Lastly, I am thrilled we have Adama Sanogo and Samson Johnson vs Big Cliff. Cliff is a big time dunker when he gets a loose ball under the basket, hits his foul shots, looks pretty and runs well. I've probably seen him dunk the ball 50-60x and have yet to see him make a basketball play to get that dunk. He rises and throws it down off loose balls when the defense isn't set against him, or when another big is drawn away and he's against a guy 6'4 who can't get up with him. This game he was covered by a 6'6 guy with average build that only came up to Cliff's shoulders. Cliff scored a bunch, but very few when the defense was set. He has potential, but I have never understood his high ranking, and glad we went with guys that have more game.
UCannUConn was nice enough to link this. I'm just posting this for yarders who are curious about the game but don't have the time to watch for themselves. Obviously other posters may have a different take. I'm eagerly awaiting @businesslawyer's snark for that different take.
This turned into an Adams/Floyd thread because Adams was brought up in regards to Floyd's recruitment and the role he can fill, some people including myself disputed this because we think Floyd is better and someone Hurley is prioritizing...
You brought up Adams recruitment to URI and then UConn which is clearly different than Floyd's recruitment. Adams may have been a priority recruit for Hurley when he was at URI but he was just a piece Hurley was comfortable bringing to UConn, a depleted roster he was unfamiliar with and didn't recruit. Hurley is recruiting at an entirely different level at UConn now and Adams while a solid bench guy would not be prioritized today and my guess is he wouldn't be offered if he was coming out of school now. That's no knock on Adams.
1. If you're using the term "rotational player" to describe what everyone else would call a "solid starter," I would suggest you not use your own term for things and wonder why no one understands you.
2. Adams was a last minute recruit when we changed coaches and Hurley found someone he thought could add something to fill a roster spot. He was not someone Hurley targeted a year and a half before an early signing date to play for UConn. And using "practice statistics" to describe someone who has played two seasons is more than a little bizarre.