Samoo
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Doesn't every team want to upgrade its shooting?I know Danny felt we needed to upgrade our shooting. Makes the game less hard.
Doesn't every team want to upgrade its shooting?I know Danny felt we needed to upgrade our shooting. Makes the game less hard.
Clingan is the biggest priority in the class.Nobody seems more polarizing on this board than Brendan adams, people’s opinions vary so widely. I think this kid has a much higher ceiling than adams. If true and the staff looks at him as this classes biggest priority there is any way they would put that big of a priority on a role player. They must see something special
Marcus Smart was a consensus all-american and the Big 12 POY
It’s a particular focus when you assess the known strengths and weaknesses of our team.Doesn't every team want to upgrade its shooting?
And the last guy I can remember fighting a fan this side of Ron Artest. Not that that's relevant, but since we're in the way back machine.
The best part of Floyd is that he fits the mold of what Hurley is looking to do on the perimeter. He plays down hill, uses a jump stop, prefers to operate at the top of the key. He’s a prototype for Hurley similar to the guards he had at URI, except more athletic. Hurley doesn’t want a ton of dribbling so the fact that he doesn’t have the best handles isn’t that much of a negativeIMO.. Floyd is more than a rotational player.. Jay and DH both like guards who have high character.. high BB IQ.. two way players that can shoot... I trust their eye for talent.. He outplayed most of the guards (except for Sool..different position) in the Slam.. Kinda has a Jerome Dyson vibe to parts of his game..
Agree not sure the term Floyd used, was it priority wing or priority scorer? Something to that affectClingan is the biggest priority in the class.
Anyone you target recruiting is a priority.Agree not sure the term Floyd used, was it priority wing or priority scorer? Something to that affect
Yep. That way, they can score more points than the other team and win the game.Doesn't every team want to upgrade its shooting?
So you're saying if we dont target them they arent a priority?Anyone you target recruiting is a priority.
My point was if hurley looks at him as a priority over other better ranked players he obviously isn’t looking at him as a backup or safety type player. Your missing the nuance of the discussionAnyone you target recruiting is a priority.
Indeed.So you're saying if we dont target them they arent a priority?
His ranking will be affected by a shortened AAU schedule this past summer and an adjusted HS schedule this year.. Classic DH move to build relationships before rankings bump.. Ala Sool/Samson/JHawk... Corey plays way better than his ranking...No longer "under the radar".. Coaches/Staff with an eye for talent see his upside..Trust the Carpenter..My point was if hurley looks at him as a priority over other better ranked players he obviously isn’t looking at him as a backup or safety type player. Your missing the nuance of the discussion
His ranking will be affected by a shortened AAU schedule this past summer and an adjusted HS schedule this year.. Classic DH move to build relationships before rankings bump.. Ala Sool/Samson/JHawk... Corey plays way better than his ranking...No longer "under the radar".. Coaches/Staff with an eye for talent see his upside..Trust the Carpenter..
Never once did I say I doubted hurley, I said hurley wouldn’t designate a guy our priority at the 2/3 and be thinking of him as a backup/brendan adams type. Was speaking more about expectations once he arrives if hurley is choosing to focus more effort on him than other higher ranked playersHis ranking will be affected by a shortened AAU schedule this past summer and an adjusted HS schedule this year.. Classic DH move to build relationships before rankings bump.. Ala Sool/Samson/JHawk... Corey plays way better than his ranking...No longer "under the radar".. Coaches/Staff with an eye for talent see his upside..Trust the Carpenter..
His ranking will be affected by a shortened AAU schedule this past summer and an adjusted HS schedule this year.. Classic DH move to build relationships before rankings bump.. Ala Sool/Samson/JHawk... Corey plays way better than his ranking...No longer "under the radar".. Coaches/Staff with an eye for talent see his upside..Trust the Carpenter..
JC "wrote the book"..This was also a specialty of JC.
Not sure where that vibe came from but I'll say one last thing about CF before I move on to another thread.. If we are lucky enough to get his commitment sometime in the future.. IMO.. By the time he steps on campus in Storrs.. His ranking will have been adjusted to be in the Sool/Samson/JHawk range because of his continued improvement in HS prior to college..Never once did I say I doubted hurley, I said hurley wouldn’t designate a guy our priority at the 2/3 and be thinking of him as a backup/brendan adams type. Was speaking more about expectations once he arrives if hurley is choosing to focus more effort on him than other higher ranked players
Posters seem to feel I have belittled Floyd by my comparison to Adams, and, by using the term 'rotational player' that I do not equate to 'back up' player. That feeling is extrapolated to suggesting it is absurd that Hurley sees him in that role if he is the top target at guard. That isn't really what I'm saying, so for some stupid reason I feel the need to reply.
When I wrote my original comment, I was viewing our typical roster as having 3 types of players. The alpha dogs that the opponents and sports columnists focus on and define the team identity. Secondly, all the other regular players rotating in and out, and thirdly, the bench reserves who we don't expect to regularly get in the games.
It is correct that I don't see him as the alpha dog player on a future team and maybe I'm wrong. To me, that is not a knock, and puts him in the same category as Gaffney who is a quality guard playing an important role, but likely will not be asked to carry the team on his back. Heck, I see Jackson as an alpha player, and even he likely won't be starting right away. Diggins will be a star but won't be confining Cole and Gaffney to the bench on day 1. Just about every player Hurley can recruit will need to develop to get court time.
The comparison to Adams is born out of style and timing. We lose Adams and will be replacing that scholarship with the 2022 class. Adams has a strong body style as does Floyd, they are about the same size, they both try to play tough defense. Adams shot just over 100 3's last year at 28%, he makes 40% in practice and Hurley said would be playing starters minutes if he was doing that in games. To me that suggests the rest of his game is 'starter worthy' in Hurley's eyes. Adams played 22 minutes a game as a soph with some quality outings, (admittedly with a short roster). I just don't think I have dissed Floyd to make the case that he could be recruited to play the same 22 minutes, provide some of the same toughness, and, with the possibility of maintaining that amount of play in a competitive roster if he shoots better.
Sorry for making a redundant post.
You have stated your perspective well and I agree with it.. As they say in Jersey.. Fuggedaboutit.. All good...Posters seem to feel I have belittled Floyd by my comparison to Adams, and, by using the term 'rotational player' that I do not equate to 'back up' player. That feeling is extrapolated to suggesting it is absurd that Hurley sees him in that role if he is the top target at guard. That isn't really what I'm saying, so for some stupid reason I feel the need to reply.
When I wrote my original comment, I was viewing our typical roster as having 3 types of players. The alpha dogs that the opponents and sports columnists focus on and define the team identity. Secondly, all the other regular players rotating in and out, and thirdly, the bench reserves who we don't expect to regularly get in the games.
It is correct that I don't see him as the alpha dog player on a future team and maybe I'm wrong. To me, that is not a knock, and puts him in the same category as Gaffney who is a quality guard playing an important role, but likely will not be asked to carry the team on his back. Heck, I see Jackson as an alpha player, and even he likely won't be starting right away. Diggins will be a star but won't be confining Cole and Gaffney to the bench on day 1. Just about every player Hurley can recruit will need to develop to get court time.
The comparison to Adams is born out of style and timing. We lose Adams and will be replacing that scholarship with the 2022 class. Adams has a strong body style as does Floyd, they are about the same size, they both try to play tough defense. Adams shot just over 100 3's last year at 28%, he makes 40% in practice and Hurley said would be playing starters minutes if he was doing that in games. To me that suggests the rest of his game is 'starter worthy' in Hurley's eyes. Adams played 22 minutes a game as a soph with some quality outings, (admittedly with a short roster). I just don't think I have dissed Floyd to make the case that he could be recruited to play the same 22 minutes, provide some of the same toughness, and, with the possibility of maintaining that amount of play in a competitive roster if he shoots better.
Sorry for making a redundant post.
Nothing I disagree with, my opinion was that if hurley likes him over higher ranked players he obviously has high expectations for the kid. I don’t know how you read from my post of a distrust of hurleys plan.Not sure where that vibe came from but I'll say one last thing about CF before I move on to another thread.. If we are lucky enough to get his commitment sometime in the future.. IMO.. By the time he steps on campus in Storrs.. His ranking will have been adjusted to be in the Sool/Samson/JHawk range because of his continued improvement in HS prior to college..
Think we agree on this.. So let's move on..Nothing I disagree with, my opinion was that if hurley likes him over higher ranked players he obviously has high expectations for the kid. I don’t know how you read from my post of a distrust of hurleys plan.