Conversations Happening on CFP Expansion To 8 (The Athletic)

[JMick]

That's my only objection. With 14 team conferences and scheduling oddities you could end up with the wrong teams without a conference championship game. And those games mean something. That's great football generally. I'm not in favor of eliminating any must-see games.

Hey, if it forces regional expansion to eight conferences and they all play a round-robin...

 

[Drew]

What the College Football Playoff would look like with eight...

Follow up article on what the CFP would've looked like last 5 years.

AAC is in 3 of the 5 CFP's.

 

[tduconn]

Somewhat serious question: would this potentially lead to schools looking to jump P5 to AAC if we get a greater share of CFP money and our TV deal is improved?

No. The perception of the league in general may change, but no P-5 (no matter how bad) school is going to move to a G% conference just for the sake of being the champion of the best G5 conference and an "automatic" bid. The G5 and team revenues will not match that they get as an awful team in a P5 conference.

 

[J187Money]

Hey, if it forces regional expansion to eight conferences and they all play a round-robin...

I'm all for that also - but that's even less likely.

 

[huskymedic]

Tad self serving in lead in but...

 

[AndOne]

If the playoffs are expanded, guaranteed that it will be in the P5's favor with money and access. They're not going to take money out of their own pockets to make sure UCF or Boise gets a fair shake.

 

[Travelman6]

In that case, and based on what folks have been saying till now it would almost make the aac a default power conference, no? I mean especially if they got Boise and byu.

If the playoffs are expanded, guaranteed that it will be in the P5's favor with money and access. They're not going to take money out of their own pockets to make sure UCF or Boise gets a fair shake.

Come and be the eight seed that gets smoked by bama? Come on,they would love to prove all this talk about ucf or whatever being legit wrong...we all know that is what would happen, bama wins with ease. The rare case that an eight beats a bama or whatever one seed adds an allure similar to march madness when a 15 beats a 2 ...good in rare cases for the sport but will never happen enough to the determinet of the sport as a whole (ie bama, etc getting to the semis and Beyond......plus a 4 or 5 seed Michigan or oh state or Georgia or whatever would take care of cinderalla stories in time for the big games. This won't happen unless there is a plan to protect the big boys and there is, that I am sure.

 

[BlueDogs]

Needs to happen for the overall health of college football. It allows for a more level recruiting landscape and stops the P5 banking of talent that never sees the field. It also gives the AAC a lot more media value, and attracts broader fan interest because the stakes are higher. The CFP is a transparently obvious scheme to enable P5 conferences to control market dollars and diminish competition.

 

[uconnbill]

Still think there should be an All-American Conference with the best of the G5 like Boise St, BYU, SDSU, Fresno ST and teams like UCF, USF, Houston, UConn and some others.

 

[uconnyankee]

In that case, and based on what folks have been saying till now it would almost make the aac a default power conference, no? I mean especially if they got Boise and byu.


Come and be the eight seed that gets smoked by bama? Come on,they would love to prove all this talk about ucf or whatever being legit wrong...we all know that is what would happen, bama wins with ease. The rare case that an eight beats a bama or whatever one seed adds an allure similar to march madness when a 15 beats a 2 ...good in rare cases for the sport but will never happen enough to the determinet of the sport as a whole (ie bama, etc getting to the semis and Beyond.plus a 4 or 5 seed Michigan or oh state or Georgia or whatever would take care of cinderalla stories in time for the big games. This won't happen unless there is a plan to protect the big boys and there is, that I am sure.

I will say a #16 seed will never, ever beat a 1 seed... EVER!

 

[LBird33]

It would be a good step forward if it included a G5 access point . Over time you could see a rare upset. I think it would help open up recruiting a little bit. It would definitely be an improvement over the CFP now. Nothing wrong with having an underdog in the playoffs. Think it’s what has made the basketball tourney more fun to watch

 

[billybud]

In college football, upsets will happen.

But, the more the line favors the favorite, the odds get slimmer for that upset...

Over time..

7 point favorite....wins 69.05%

10 point favorite....wins 76.61 %

14 point favorite wins...82.73%

 

[CTMike]

6 or 8 is the right number. 4 is too few, more than 8 dilutes.

 

[Rocktheworld]

They better go to six autobids and two at large if they do it this way. Might save the AAC

I think it should depend year by year. If there are 8 great undefeated or one-loss P5 teams, take them all (this never happens).

If for example there’s a two-loss LSU and an undefeated or one-loss Pac12 or AAC conference champion, depending on the loss, you take the conference champs.

 

[Robertelamin]

Seems unlikely that CBS or FOX would be okay with no conference championship games unless they can televise some of the playoff games.

 

[CL82]

6 or 8 is the right number. 4 is too few, more than 8 dilutes.

I think you mostly correct Mike, although, in time, I can see a play in game for the at large bids played on the campus of the favorite.

 

[Dooley]

Tad self serving in lead in but...

Good find. Yeah, I am really surprised just how easy Notre Dame cracked the Playoff without the 13th data point and a mediocre schedule. Of course, UNC did them a solid by not making up their PPD game against UCF and locking them in at 12.

Essentially, everybody but Notre Dame and Alabama need a 13th game is the message that the Committee sent. And that's good because America loves to root for the privileged elite silver spoons.

 

[shizzle787]

whats wild is UConn would probably have a better shot at making the playoff from the American than it would from any P5 league.

I also think an 8 team playoff with a locked in G5 representative would increase the value of the AAC deal as most years the AAC title game winner will be going to the playoff.

What people aren't thinking about is this would eliminated divisions eliminating the need for an even number of football teams in a conference with an 8-team conference.

 

[LBird33]

One more trend thats starting and may grow with these bowl games . Key players are opting out . If the trend grows over time. Making bowl games less interesting.. not that they’re that interesting now

A 8 team CFP. Would minimize that

 

[uconntailgater]

If the CFP does indeed expand to eight teams? We would absolutely have to invite BYU and Boise State, even if it's for football only. We would have to ensure to be the premier non-P5 Conference.

 

[Excalibur]

They better go to six autobids and two at large if they do it this way. Might save the AAC

I’m not holding my breath on the G5 getting guaranteed access. There will be a qualifier of some kind, like the top G5 team must be in the top 10 of the rankings.

 

[CTBballfan243]

If the G5 get access to the expanded playoff you can be sure there will be specific requirements such as: The G5 will get a guaranteed Playoff spot provided the G5 team is ranked in the top 10 in the country. This way the P5 will be able to have control over which G5 schools they actually allow into the playoff. You can bet that the Uconn's of the world will not be allowed in the playoff.

 

[Husky25]

Come and be the eight seed that gets smoked by bama? Come on,they would love to prove all this talk about ucf or whatever being legit wrong...we all know that is what would happen, bama wins with ease.

In the short term sure, but Saban (67) ain't coaching forever. The pack always catches up with the once elite. 1 seeds made it through to the round of 32 100% of the time too...until last March.

The rare case that an eight beats a bama or whatever one seed adds an allure similar to march madness when a 15 beats a 2 ...good in rare cases for the sport but will never happen enough to the determinet of the sport as a whole (ie bama, etc getting to the semis and Beyond.plus a 4 or 5 seed Michigan or oh state or Georgia or whatever would take care of cinderalla stories in time for the big games. This won't happen unless there is a plan to protect the big boys and there is, that I am sure.

So what? As if it wouldn't generate interest?

More interest = more eyeballs = more money.

 

[arch]

I guess I like expansion because the ‘yard likes it, but for what problem is this the solution?

 

[Palatine]

UCF or whoever never gets in because the P5 will NEVER give up the money.

They will let a three loss P5 team in the playoff rather than give up the money.