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LoyalFanCT said:
Where is the data -- at least so far -- to counteract my statement? Don't have any? Don't call it lame ass or nonsense.
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Ironic post/handle if you really would rather be in the AAC
 
The Shot said:
I was under the impression we had to win our own games in the tournament and not rely on our conference mates to do that for us. You learn something new on the Boneyard everyday!
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People on this site championed getting into the New Big East as the way to return UConn to go far in the NCAA tourney. They blamed the AAC affiliation for the drop in post season play by UConn.
 
Waquoit said:
That question is never answered by the FB only cranks.
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Finally see a post that put the light on for me. This is what I've been missing.

I see the football "cranks" guys as "UConn needs to be good at football as a flag ship state school and to keep basketball relevant". True or not that's what I hear.

Basketball "only cranks" say who needs football its a drain, lets drop down a level in football.

The cranks who are the "only" cranks are the basketball cranks, the football cranks want both.
 
Husky68 said:
I see the football "cranks" guys as "UConn needs to be good at football as a flag ship state school and to keep basketball relevant". True or not that's what I hear.
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Why do you say "True or not"? It's not true. FB almost killed BB, it's BB keeping FB "relevant".
When you "both sides" an issue like this, you just give cover to the bad guys.
 
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LoyalFanCT said:
People on this site championed getting into the New Big East as the way to return UConn to go far in the NCAA tourney. They blamed the AAC affiliation for the drop in post season play by UConn.
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Hey man, we've been back one year. Even in the short amount of time since the announcement to return to the big east our recruiting has kicked into another gear and our program is on an upward trajectory.
 
freescooter said:
Of course the flagships in the NEWBIE are UConn and nobody. Cincinatti Is a major national university with respected medical and doctoral programs and a world renowned hospital associated with it. Tulane is nationally respected. I could go on. Of course The NOOB has Seton Hall, which is known for being in New Jersey and Providence which is, well, in Providence. Outside of Georgetown the NOOB IS an a bunch of interchangeable commuter schools. Except Villanova, which is little BC.
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You are a moron.

I admire your persistence in trying to prove it.
 
As an alumni I care less about the $$$ the athletic department brings in and more about how much the brand of the school grows. UConn winning basketball games at MSG every March against the likes of Villanova and Georgetown directly helps me. Big 10/ACC alumni understand and respect what the Big East is, no one gives a flying f about Cincinatti, Memphis or UCF.

Honestly, this conversation begins and ends with a sober understanding of what our reality would have been had we not left the AAC last year. We would not be in consideration for the Big 12 because of geographical reasons and the fact that our football program is in shambles. Instead we would be in a worse version of the AAC as they backfill with more ECU/Tulsa calibre schools.
 
LoyalFanCT said:
People on this site championed getting into the New Big East as the way to return UConn to go far in the NCAA tourney. They blamed the AAC affiliation for the drop in post season play by UConn.
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Go away and take moronscooter with you.
 
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Is the NBE better than the AAC? For basketball and soccer yes
Other sports - no
Being this is a basketball board, it is natural for folks to be satisfied with the current NBE and selfishly I also like the affiliation for both sports.
It has certainly hurt football and baseball/softball
If any P5 calls - UConn would be crazy not to jump - the $ is too much to ignore
 
goskis2018 said:
Big 10/ACC alumni understand and respect what the Big East is, no one gives a flying f about Cincinatti, Memphis or UCF.
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How does this work?
Cincinnati and UCF are now part of their P5 club.
The Jesuit East is never getting membership. Not in a million years.
 
BapeKidd88 said:
How does this work?
Cincinnati and UCF are now part of their P5 club.
The Jesuit East is never getting membership. Not in a million years.
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This is the Basketball Board, so why don't you take your Football leaning, whiny backside back to the rest of the I hate BB brethren.
 
goskis2018 said:
We would not be in consideration for the Big 12 because of geographical reasons and the fact that our football program is in shambles.
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It's the AD's job to fix the football program and sell it as a worthy addition to the Cincinnati-WVU portion of the Big 12.
The rewards of P5 membership FAR outweigh the benefits of being the closest mouth-breather on the outside of the glass wall.
 
freescooter said:
Of course the flagships in the NEWBIE are UConn and nobody. Cincinatti Is a major national university with respected medical and doctoral programs and a world renowned hospital associated with it. Tulane is nationally respected. I could go on. Of course The NOOB has Seton Hall, which is known for being in New Jersey and Providence which is, well, in Providence. Outside of Georgetown the NOOB IS an a bunch of interchangeable commuter schools. Except Villanova, which is little BC.
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why are you here?
 
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BapeKidd88 said:
How does this work?
Cincinnati and UCF are now part of their P5 club.
The Jesuit East is never getting membership. Not in a million years.
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The Big 12 ceases to be a power conference in football the day OU and TX leave. Not a single school in that conference has an all-time football winning percentage in the top 25 nationally. They have no blue bloods, only two state flagships (small states) and BYU. In basketball, it will be a major league, however.
 
BapeKidd88 said:
It's the AD's job to fix the football program and sell it as a worthy addition to the Cincinnati-WVU portion of the Big 12.
The rewards of P5 membership FAR outweigh the benefits of being the closest mouth-breather on the outside of the glass wall.
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Again, post TX and OU, it is not a power conference.
 
I’m fine with staying as long as it lasts. conference realignment stuff is exhausting. I prefer not to think about it.
 
What do people want UConn to do? The P5 made it very clear multiple times they didn’t want them. It is what it is. For the time being this is the spot. If there’s an opportunity to move they will try again.

Side note. Do the people who complain that football is not good donate and go to games? Maybe if they showed the same support people do for basketball things would get better.
 
shizzle787 said:
The Big 12 ceases to be a power conference in football the day OU and TX leave. Not a single school in that conference has an all-time football winning percentage in the top 25 nationally. They have no blue bloods, only two state flagships (small states) and BYU. In basketball, it will be a major league, however.
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The Big 12 is at worst the 3rd best football league and ranks as the #1 basketball conference.
There is no process to take away their autonomy designation. It's foolishness to think they'll lose status with those metrics.

As for the NBE, that option could have been initiated at any time. That league was never saying no to bringing in UConn, considering that all of their members are so much weaker than UConn. They don't get much money and UConn helps them more than the NBE helps UConn.
UConn could've easily waited to see what the AAC looks like coming out of realignment, to THEN decide if it was time to give up on P5 status, aka autonomy.
 
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UCSouth said:
This is the Basketball Board, so why don't you take your Football leaning, whiny backside back to the rest of the I hate BB brethren.
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Do you ever talk about anything constructive or just linger around and take potshots at everyone who thinks differently than you - looking for laughs and likes?
Babetwit88, Moronscooter, Chief00 digger - you have way too much time on your hands
 
UCSouth said:
He was looking for his buddy Bapetw
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freescooter said:
Of course the flagships in the NEWBIE are UConn and nobody. Cincinatti Is a major national university with respected medical and doctoral programs and a world renowned hospital associated with it. Tulane is nationally respected. I could go on. Of course The NOOB has Seton Hall, which is known for being in New Jersey and Providence which is, well, in Providence. Outside of Georgetown the NOOB IS an a bunch of interchangeable commuter schools. Except Villanova, which is little BC.
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You lost me at "Of course". Good God man.
 
Butch said:
I am getting tired of this nonsense because sports are just a crutch for pride (not directed at you). But Big 12 football after OU and TX leave can easily challenge the ACC and Pac-12.
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On the field, yes. But the MW challenged the BEast and ACC during the BCS days and they were not considered a power conference.
 
BapeKidd88 said:
The Big 12 is at worst the 3rd best football league and ranks as the #1 basketball conference.
There is no process to take away their autonomy designation. It's foolishness to think they'll lose status with those metrics.

As for the NBE, that option could have been initiated at any time. That league was never saying no to bringing in UConn, considering that all of their members are so much weaker than UConn. They don't get much money and UConn helps them more than the NBE helps UConn.
UConn could've easily waited to see what the AAC looks like coming out of realignment, to THEN decide if it was time to give up on P5 status, aka autonomy.
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They will not be the #1 basketball conference post OU and TX. I think people criminally underrated both of them in basketball. They will probably be fighting with the Big East and SEC for the #3 spot behind the ACC and Big 10.

Autonomy doesn’t mean much. The WAC and C-USA were equity conferences but not power conferences. The media and brand power are what determine a power conference in football.
 
shizzle787 said:
On the field, yes. But the MW challenged the BEast and ACC during the BCS days and they were not considered a power conference.
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The MWC never had the resources of the Big 12. Have you been inside their stadiums? The MWC never had BCS status and the dollars to build a Taj Majal athletic villages at all their schools like the Big 12 schools have.

Not to mention all of the schools they are bringing in have credible metrics for entry. Cinci is knocking on the playoff door. BYU is looking stout. Houston and UCF have NY6 titles.

I think the main concept is timing.

The NBE retreat position was ALWAYS going to be there. UConn is no further ahead by not waiting to see what the P5 conferences do. Entering into such a ridiculous exit fee was absurd for a league that pays 4 million. It will take 10 years of conference revenue to pay an exit fee. Nothing made sense.
 
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